Oh I understand now. You don't know the difference between exaggeration and being wrong. That explains a lot.
A thank you to Brexiteers.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yes, I was exaggerating and you are wrong.
Boris Sprinkler
Dont be scared
so batshit insane they had to hold an inquiry about whether or not there had been russian interference in the election.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
That's my old Mum & Dad told.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Can't beat a detailed and perceptive analysis on why people voted to leave
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Sure he'll double down on it
philosophical
Well-Known Member
Oakshott is bonking that bastard Tice, so she is trying to get at Banks to take attention away from her shagmate.
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
A good article worth a read.
bylinetimes.com
The Lone Voices Who Tried to Warn the British Establishment About Russia – Byline Times
A small band of politicians spent the past decade warning about the threat from Putin and Russian oligarchs in the UK but are only now being listened to, reports Adam Bienkov
bylinetimes.com
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Another low life who abstained on the welfare reform bill in 2015.
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
The P&O sackings wouldn't have been allowed under EU law. Another victory for the workers Smokeandsteam
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
I don't think they are even allowed under UK law.
Usually you need at least a month or two of meaningless HR work and forms before it happens
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Glad you’ve raised this as one of your number raised the same issue on the P&O thread and then vanished. So, I’ll ask you what I asked him. What relevant laws existed in Britain before Brexit that do not now? When were these laws ‘deregulated’? How would they have prevented what P&O have done? What EU law are you referring to specifically?
Also, what P&O have done is - in my view - unlawful. Reading the guardian this morning it seems lawyers agree that the dismissals are likely to be automatically unfair, that the failure to consult was illegal as was the failure to notify the Government.
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Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
It’s not often I agree with Aaron Bastani but he’s half right here. Where I disagree with him is his suggestion that those engaged in these practices- gleefully commentating on people losing their jobs and lying as to the reasons why they are - could be part of any movement of progressive politics…
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
EU or French legislation no doubt which I believe has been covered on the p&o thread
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I bet the effects of the war in Ukraine, whenever they become more readily apparent, will also get blamed on Brexit by these kinds of shitehawks. They seem to have no politics outside of that.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
It was always legal under British law to do this, even when we were in the saintly EU.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Try the p&o thread which i expect answers the question
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Their politics are shameful. No solidarity with the sacked workers, peddling the lie that some unidentified and now mysteriously repealed EU law would have prevented this, wilfully ignoring 40 plus years of history since Thatchers anti-TU laws. As I said on here during the debate about labour shortages their politics are leading in one direction: against the working class
andysays
Love and solidarity
Maybe they just haven't got round to sacking the French staff yet, or maybe they think that it would be politically and economically less easy to get away with it in France (which has nothing to do with Brexit).
Either way, the way a few posters here have jumped on this with such glee is instructive
(not aimed at you bimble)
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Def politically more difficult in France because here everyone knows it'll be froth for two weeks if that then complaisance from our nefandous government
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
This is how they’ll get away with it:
Not changing the job description one jot but taking on agency staff to do the redundant jobs is allowed, under U.K. law approved by the EU.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
" I have heard there is a tree at the end of the world with a fleece of gold hanging from its branches
I have heard this too
So have many men
They say it is a gift of the gods "
Yossarian
⏭️
I agree with this writer that it's time to bring in labour laws that will do what a lot of people thought Brexit was going to do.
Leaving the European Union, Brexiteers on both the right and left argued, would mean an end to importing low-cost European labour that “undercut” British workers. But the P&O mass lay-off exposes this argument as a red herring. The problem was not freedom of movement, but a loosely regulated labour market and poorly enforced labour laws, particularly relating to agency work and bogus self-employment.
www.newstatesman.com
Leaving the European Union, Brexiteers on both the right and left argued, would mean an end to importing low-cost European labour that “undercut” British workers. But the P&O mass lay-off exposes this argument as a red herring. The problem was not freedom of movement, but a loosely regulated labour market and poorly enforced labour laws, particularly relating to agency work and bogus self-employment.
P&O proves Brexit has failed on its own terms
800 crew members have been replaced by “cheap agency workers from eastern Europe” overnight.
www.newstatesman.com
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