5G networks - safety, conspiracies and moron cell tower attacks

[William of Walworth]

We have a satellite Glastonbury in my part of Bristol.
The leading 5G nut around here is a "nutritional therapist" ...

Residents 'very alarmed' over 5G roll-out in Bristol

One doctor called 5G 'the stupidest idea anyone has had in the history of the world'

www.bristolpost.co.uk

St. Werberghs? As well as Montpelier?

During Glastonbury festival, in normal years, we joke about how empty Bristol must be in Glastonbury-week, given how many crew seem to come down from Bristol.
But TBF, they tend to be saner than some people we've encountered in Glastonbury town ...

 

[DaveCinzano]

This will go down well

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[NoXion]

This will go down well

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It looks like (it was) a job advert. Nothing looks untoward. What was it supposed to be?

 

[DaveCinzano]

It looks like (it was) a job advert. Nothing looks untoward. What was it supposed to be?

The URL is:

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/senior-international-media-affairs-manager-at-huawei-consumer-business-group-1816015735/?originalSubdomain=uk

It's barely been up a day and it's already been closed

 

[bimble]

Trading Standards squad targets anti-5G USB stick

Investigators say that vulnerable people need protection from what seems to be a £339 scam.

www.bbc.com

Nice little article this. Features Glastonbury and stickers.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Trading Standards squad targets anti-5G USB stick

Investigators say that vulnerable people need protection from what seems to be a £339 scam.

www.bbc.com

Nice little article this. Features Glastonbury and stickers.

Each of these USB keys costs £339.60 including VAT, though there is a special offer of three for £958.80.

But, at first sight, it seems to be just that - a USB key, with just 128MB of storage.

"So what's different between it and a virtually identical 'crystal' USB key available from various suppliers in Shenzhen, China, for around £5 per key?" asks Ken Munro, whose company, Pen Test Partners, specialises in taking apart consumer electronic products to spot security vulnerabilities.

And the answer appears to be a circular sticker.

 

[phillm]

There's a serious discount if you buy 3. Since it's a 128mb memory stick why not buy one and copy the other 2 and thereby save loads.

 

[William of Walworth]

Trading Standards squad targets anti-5G USB stick

Investigators say that vulnerable people need protection from what seems to be a £339 scam.

www.bbc.com

Nice little article this. Features Glastonbury Town Council and stickers.

Funny as fuck
Just corrected the above for you though, as there's no festival this year -- that Glastonbury Town Council meeting was also referenced upthread, and the meeting definitely sounds like it was loopcase- and weirdo-dominated.
That's the Town for you!

Lovely though Glastonbury town is (we know it well and go quite often), if I lived there all the time, I'd be on the 376 bus to Bristol very frequently, to avoid being driven bonkers by these 'spiritual' twazzocks and all their crystal shops in the High Street .... !

 

[two sheds]

There's a serious discount if you buy 3. Since it's a 128mb memory stick why not buy one and copy the other 2 and thereby save loads.

That would be useless - in fact worse than useless because you're lulling people into a false sense of security It's the sticker that is different and gives the protection.

 

[Marty1]

Trading Standards squad targets anti-5G USB stick

Investigators say that vulnerable people need protection from what seems to be a £339 scam.

www.bbc.com

Nice little article this. Features Glastonbury and stickers.

Fucks sake - looks like a blatant fraudulent product looking to cash in on this 5G hoax. Surely companies selling such placebo tat are breaking trading standards laws?

Hope Amazon don’t start listing them

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

Not a conspiracy theorist at all. However, people are right to be alarmed over 5g but not for its health risks. This will be a surveillance issue. Increased scrutiny by the security forces and utilisation of big data. Look at where China is now.

It's not a conspiracy, its a requirement for control. By those that fear things.The ones that need to protect their investments, bank balances and furrowed brows.

 

[editor]

Dietary supplements too!

"Both of them appear to have been involved previously in a business called Immortalis, which sells a dietary supplement called Klotho Formula.

Its website - rather similar in design to that of the BioShield - says Klotho Formula uses a "proprietary procedure that leads to relativistic time dilation and biological quantum entanglement at the DNA level".

 

[existentialist]

Dietary supplements too!

"Both of them appear to have been involved previously in a business called Immortalis, which sells a dietary supplement called Klotho Formula.

Its website - rather similar in design to that of the BioShield - says Klotho Formula uses a "proprietary procedure that leads to relativistic time dilation and biological quantum entanglement at the DNA level".

Fuck, that's amazing. I'm going to start using that as the canonical example of cosmic quantum woo.

 

[Marty1]

Has anyone done a 5G and C-19 repellent face mask yet?

 

[Lurdan]

Man in 'dark clothing' seen at base of 5G phone mast before it went up in flames - Liverpool Echo yesterday

A 5G phone mast was destroyed overnight in a blaze sparking an investigation by police and fire bosses. One crew was called to Brodie Avenue in Mossley Hill just before midnight last night following reports a mast was on fire.

 

[ruffneck23]

 

[platinumsage]

Dietary supplements too!

"Both of them appear to have been involved previously in a business called Immortalis, which sells a dietary supplement called Klotho Formula.

Its website - rather similar in design to that of the BioShield - says Klotho Formula uses a "proprietary procedure that leads to relativistic time dilation and biological quantum entanglement at the DNA level".

I see that BBC article has been retitled "Trading Standards squad targets anti-5G USB stick"

Is there any difference between this nonsense and some of the audiophile "HiFi" equipment which retails for a similar markup? Have Trading Standards ever targeted products such as this £1469 HDMI cable, flagrantly for sale on Amazon.

 

[WouldBe]

A fool and his money....

I like the reviews.

 

[belboid]

I see that BBC article has been retitled "Trading Standards squad targets anti-5G USB stick"

Is there any difference between this nonsense and some of the audiophile "HiFi" equipment which retails for a similar markup? Have Trading Standards ever targeted products such as this £1469 HDMI cable, flagrantly for sale on Amazon.

it's only £1459 now! Hurry, it's a bargain

 

[tim]

Yet strangely coronavirus didn't break out there or at that time.

Glastonbury Tor (Ynys yr Afalon in the old language) is the resting place of King Arthur. His bones emit Arthur waves on the Quantum frequency, which are a form of positive radiation that excaliberate all harmful forms of radiation within a five-mile radius. One consequence of this is that Micheal Eavis's cattle are immortal: Daisy and Buttercup's original milkmaid was Guinevere.

 

[pogofish]

Is there any difference between this nonsense and some of the audiophile "HiFi" equipment which retails for a similar markup? Have Trading Standards ever targeted products such as this £1469 HDMI cable, flagrantly for sale on Amazon.

Yes! We already have a well established thread for audiophile bollocks.

Do you consider yourself an audiophile?

Does anyone else find the term 'audiophile' a load of old wank? And people who claim to be one smug, self important tossers? Now there's obviously vast differences between a £15 system from Tesco and one that costs a few grand from a stereo shop, but most of the stuff that audiophiles claim is...

www.urban75.net

 

[gentlegreen]

It looks like Kailo fake pain patches are going for broke now by selling on Amazon where people can post negative reviews.
It seems there are quite a few "confirmed purchase" 5 star reviews by suspicious-looking purchasers...
Kailo raised 2 million dollars on crowdfunding ...
But there are genuine positive reviews for people scammed out of hundreds of dollars...very sad...

I did a quick search for an image of where I'd heard the technology started out.
At least adding elements to an antenna could possibly work if done right.
Though I doubt anyone noticed any improvement by adding extreme directionality to a phone ...

 

[NoXion]

Right, it's just that the size of the photon energy is not much of an argument.

It is when you consider that the power output of a typical mobile phone is in the range of 1 to 5 watts. Your own body is producing more radiation than that, about 100 watts in infra red. So if cellphone radiation can't even produce a measurable temperature increase and is also non-ionising, then there aren't any remotely plausible mechanisms for harm left. Randomised double-blind studies have turned up nothing.

The anti-Semitic loons and hippie hypochondriacs haven't got a scientific leg to stand on.

 

[Flavour]

Right so bit late on this but holy fuck the levels of insanity in this world are outrageous.

I've just seen a video of a demonstration in Rome by the "Gilet Arancioni" (Orange jackets, a sort of weird conspiracy theory/right wing copycat of the Gilet jaune in France) where a woman on stage talking to the crowd (like, an official speaker, but no idea who she is) links together the idea of vaccines and 5G as being two sides of the same coin (wtf) and also that this is all funded/organized/plotted by Bill Gates ... It's just beyond the maddest nonsense I ever remember from the days of laughing at 9/11 conspiracies but obviously the rabbit hole has been digging itself deeper and deeper and deeper since then.

These people are genuinely dangerous and, apparently, growing in number. I have no idea what can be done about it.

 

[Sasaferrato]

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I would have thought no one would be stupid enough to do that, then I remembered the person who was buying antifreeze for their VW Beetle (Old type).

 

[LDC]

Right so bit late on this but holy fuck the levels of insanity in this world are outrageous.

I've just seen a video of a demonstration in Rome by the "Gilet Arancioni" (Orange jackets, a sort of weird conspiracy theory/right wing copycat of the Gilet jaune in France) where a woman on stage talking to the crowd (like, an official speaker, but no idea who she is) links together the idea of vaccines and 5G as being two sides of the same coin (wtf) and also that this is all funded/organized/plotted by Bill Gates ... It's just beyond the maddest nonsense I ever remember from the days of laughing at 9/11 conspiracies but obviously the rabbit hole has been digging itself deeper and deeper and deeper since then.

These people are genuinely dangerous and, apparently, growing in number. I have no idea what can be done about it.

I've recently been shown the FB account of someone I know (only very vaguely, but a couple of handfuls of people I know are good friends with them) and it's packed full of the anti-vax/5G/Plandemic/Bill Gates conspiracy. They've started a FB group covering that as well, and it's full of Rothschild stuff, all the usual preditable anti-semitism and conspiracy stuff. They have kids as well and they've boasted on FB about making sure their kids know all this. Someone I know who's friends with them is struggling to know what to do about it, it feels like they're too invested in it to try and just have a chat.

And I just heard from a friend of mine in Barcelona and he says this stuff is much more prevalent there than it ever has been before. He called it the meta-conspiracy as lots of other stuff can be slotted in under the CV stuff - anti-vax/RFID tracking/NWO/secret cabal/5G.

Both those examples involved people connected to the left wing political scene (albeit the more hippie side of it) so not just randoms, and I do think this stuff is becoming much more of a problem than it was in the past. You can even see more bits of it here with the whole bricks nonsense.

E2A: just been reminded of this after reading the 'US in flames (2020)' thread, she's also woven antifa into this conspiracy as 'paid mercenaries' (by Soros or undercover police) causing trouble to inflame the situation and so allowing martial law to be brought in, allowing NWO, etc.

I think it's worthy of some discussion about what to do, I see this as a real and growing problem. Sometimes it feels like the end of days with people grasping onto anything that makes some 'sense' of a increasingly chaotic and scary world.

 

[fucthest8]

I think it's worthy of some discussion about what to do, I see this as a real and growing problem. Sometimes it feels like the end of days with people grasping onto anything that makes some 'sense' of a increasingly chaotic and scary world.

Well, I think that's pretty much it, isn't it, conspiracy theories give people a reason that things are happening. Or at least a better (? less random?) reason than "a pangolin ate a bat and then someone caught the pangolin and went to sell its meat and that's why lots of people are dying" or whatever the hell actually happened. The idea that either (a) this is so fucking random that you couldn't control it, or (b) that it's our fault for our rapacious approach to the natural world and our collective failure to hold anyone to account because we want everything to be cheap and easy ... well, those "reasons" are terrifyng because I have no control or make me at the very least slightly responsible.

Whereas as a consipracy theory allows me to resist, or show that I can't be fooled, or that I'm cleverer than most of you ... it gives me back the illusion of control.

As for what to do ... crikey, good luck.
I guess I always start with "why?" Whats the end game? What do all these multi-millionaires want from all this that they haven't already got? You're already basically irrelevant to them, what will 5G/Mandatory Vaccines/whatever actually achieve?
... but then you're down the rabbit hole.

 

[fucthest8]

Sorry, had to wrap that post up a bit quick, had to actually go and do the work I was being paid for god.

Anyway ... it's not very nice I suppose, but I rather point out to people

• how much more control do you think "they" need? What, exactly, is it that you do which makes you such a threat? Not entirely sure that you going to Penge any time you like is really top of "their" concerns
• If you have a mobile phone then "they" already have the means to be able to tell where you are at any point
• and even if you don't have a mobile phone, you don't actually do anything really, do you?
• if you have a job/pay tax/claim benefits/vote/use electricity/use gas/use water ... then "they" already know where you live and what you do
• if you use any sort of payment card. See above plus they now know what you like to buy
• if you use the internet, see above plus they now know what you look at
• have you ever wroked on something that involved more than 5 people? Now imaging a conspiracy involving thousands, millions ... and no-one says anything, ever? Or makes a mistake?
• have you ever been told a secret? Did you keep it to yourself? (a small % might try to claim they do, but 95% of people when pushed will admit they've told one person who they really trust. Then extrapolate, because guess what that person did?)
• and then just stick the knife in. You are irrelevent. These people don't even think about you in any more than the most general of terms. You are herds of cattle and they dont need to do anything more because you already do everything they need you to do.

Which, of course, is depressingly true for most of us. I usually start drinking at this point.

 

[editor]

Workers are now being kidnapping because if this moronic bullshit. This is the real harm the bedroom conspiracy twats cause

Villagers in the Huancavelica region of Peru have detained eight technicians who were repairing a wireless antenna, over fears their work would spread Covid-19.
The villagers mistakenly believed that the workers were installing 5G technology in the area.
False claims linking 5G to coronavirus have been widely shared online.
Scientists say a connection between the two is biologically impossible.
The workers have not been heard from since Wednesday evening and have not yet been released, their company says.
While Peru has recorded more than 6,000 deaths and almost 215,000 confirmed cases of the virus, its spread in the Huancavelica region has been limited.
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[likesfish]

I'm just sorry I'm not sociopathic enough to sell £400 usb sticks to morons.

Most of these woo merchants actually belive their ridiculous claims