MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
38 adults & one teenager.
39 dead in lorry container in Essex, October 2019
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Trying to look on the bright side (of course there isn't one) here, it's good that you are in a position to notice when things are looking a bit dodgy and wrong and to report this horrible shit.
maomao
普費斯
They're already in care. Most of the people I work with had (loudly) assumed they were 'criminals' or 'scroungers' of some sort because they're travelling on a council account and have lengthy notes attached to the job details about not letting them change destination or leaving them unaccompanied at drop off. I only worked out what was going on by googling some of the addresses they were going to.
flypanam
Sausage to fortune
Christ I wonder where they were loaded on. To come up through Europe cross from France to Ireland. From Dublin to Holyhead to Essex.
Grim no way to go...can't imagine what they were fleeing from but it must have been bad.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
It's not even the worse for this there were 58 people suffocated in a lorry in Dover in 2000In the UK, certainly.The Manchester Arena bombing killed fewer, though it injured many more.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Came from Holyhead, so had already been sneaked in to Ireland, then driven all the way from North Wales down to Essex. Jeepers. France to Ireland, shortest crossing is from Roscoff to Cork, 14 hours. Dublin to Holyhead is just over 3 hours. Holyhead to Essex is over 5 hours in a car, closer to 10 in a truck.
Edit: BBC saying that the truck entered Holyhead on 19th October!
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cupid_stunt
Where's the bloody sun?
Blimey!
Surely someone other than the driver put them in the container, surely he didn't leave them in there all that time?
Treacle Toes
Time
What awful news. 39 lives just wiped out like this
...and many more drowning in the med each month.
T & P
|-o-| (-o-) |-o-|
Fucking grim. Poor people.
A reporter on the TV news said the driver being arrested on suspicion of murder would have been the default action to take in a case like this immediately after its discovery, and does not necessarily indicate the police believe he was part of the smuggling operation.
A reporter on the TV news said the driver being arrested on suspicion of murder would have been the default action to take in a case like this immediately after its discovery, and does not necessarily indicate the police believe he was part of the smuggling operation.
tonysingh
Random Clever and Witty Strapline
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
When I first saw the report I assumed that the truck had come over from Calais and this was a people smuggling operation that had gone wrong in which case the driver must have known they were inside. 1 or 2 people could sneak aboard a truck without the driver knowing but not 39 they would have had to dump the cargo.
But it seems that this truck came the long way round via Ireland in which case why we weren't they let out in Dublin or Holyhead if they were aiming for the UK
It is possible that the driver may be just a patsy.
Perhaps they were smuggled into Ireland and when they didn't get out (assuming they suffocated) the container was loaded onto a truck for forwarding without anyone being any the wiser as to what was in it.
But it seems that this truck came the long way round via Ireland in which case why we weren't they let out in Dublin or Holyhead if they were aiming for the UK
It is possible that the driver may be just a patsy.
Perhaps they were smuggled into Ireland and when they didn't get out (assuming they suffocated) the container was loaded onto a truck for forwarding without anyone being any the wiser as to what was in it.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Everybody
Treacle Toes
Time
Hard to know at this stage when they died and at which point in the trip they were boarded.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
It looks like it's not a container:
But if they had come up that way, via Ireland, why not open up in Belfast and let them out there, they'd be in the UK...?
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
I think it's all fatalities.
Bahnhof Strasse is right, the timings are about 4 days the container from the embarkation point at Cherbourg or Roscoff (pretty sure it's Cherbourg or Roscoff to Cork), up to Dublin, then to Holyhead and down to Essex. That says nothing about how long they were in the container before they got on the ferry in France...
Wouldn't be surprised if it's a fuck up rather than a deliberate choice of that route - could be wrong though - might be an attempt to avoid the scrutiny of Dover..
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
This assumes that they’re smuggling migrants which is probably most likely but if they’re trafficking slaves or sex workers they’d need them at a certain place.
Fuck. Was having dinner with some friends who came through Calais the other night and they were telling stories from their attempts to cross. The risks people take to get here are unbelievable.
The more they fortify Calais, increase police and build higher fences the further people have to go in trucks to make it to the uk making incidents like this more likely.
At the youth centre in Calais the kids would come in with labels they'd torn off the goods that were in the lorries they'd climbed into the night before. We'd often have a bit of a laugh about them having been in a truck full of perfume or peanut butter and we'd always try and drum into them not to get into refrigerated trucks but any truck was dangerous to be in if the load shifted while they were in it.
The more they fortify Calais, increase police and build higher fences the further people have to go in trucks to make it to the uk making incidents like this more likely.
At the youth centre in Calais the kids would come in with labels they'd torn off the goods that were in the lorries they'd climbed into the night before. We'd often have a bit of a laugh about them having been in a truck full of perfume or peanut butter and we'd always try and drum into them not to get into refrigerated trucks but any truck was dangerous to be in if the load shifted while they were in it.
not-bono-ever
meh
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not-bono-ever
meh
I thought it was a container- that’s a refrigerated trailer as far as I can see - also a left hooker with motorway toll stickers in the windscreen
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Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
Somehow, I didn't expect things like this to happen in the UK. It happens with some frequency along the US/Mexico border. Just one example:
Driver in custody after 9 suspected migrants found dead in parking lot
Sometimes they'll find truckloads of as many as 80 people stuffed into trucks, pleading for water and air. Has to be an awful way to die.
Driver in custody after 9 suspected migrants found dead in parking lot
Sometimes they'll find truckloads of as many as 80 people stuffed into trucks, pleading for water and air. Has to be an awful way to die.
8ball
Testicle Menace
More directionless despair on my part. I think rage is more constructive tbf.
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