BNP leader faces jail!!
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butchersapron
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What a pointless article. Transparently designed to cause trouble for the BNP 'from above' - knowing full well that the content of the headline is pure bullshit. Leppard is a hyena who'll post up any shit anyone official sounding sends him anyway - Michael Foot was a KGB spy - remember who broke that scoop?
Fair chance that's true but the though of Adolf griff in the nick was amusing anyway.
butchersapron
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Why? In what way would it damage them? if anything it would shore up his harder edge that he's been accused of losing over the last few years - esp over this specific issue. It would be a gift to him and his credibility. Not that it's ever going to happen, but it does highlight once more the glaring deficiencies of this sort of official anti-fascism from above. Take the publicity that the UAF and associates gave to the EDL over the last year - allowing them to actually become something real in the process - and magnify it by about 1000.
MrA
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Was it the same guy? You have a good memory.
If it causes trouble for the BNP then I shan't lose sleep over it. If it has an element of truth in it I'd be happy as a pig in poop.
butchersapron
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It was. It won't cause them trouble - it'd get Griffin out of a slight bit of bother.
Quite, the UAF, are the best recruiting sergeants the BNP have, and they don't cost the BNP a penny piece.
MrA
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I'm not so sure, I think he's under pressure from within and this could tip the balance, I'm hoping so anyway, I'd like to someone like Bron take over, the little credibility the BNP have would soon be eroded.
Also, the BNP have faded into the backgroud recently which suits them, I'd prefer to see them front and centre not being attacked soley on race, which is relevant, but questioned on their (mini) manifesto, which many people would find unpaletable.
At the moment they are being allowed to cherry pick the sound bites that suit their agenda and purposes better.
butchersapron
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He's under a tiny bit of pressure over this, pressure which has proved easily managable though, in fact it's been turned to his advantage by allowing what's left of the nutjob element to isolate themselves. The changes are going to happen either way, so this stunt will allow him to regain lost credibility by looking principled over the issue whilst dumping his principles. (Not that it's going to happen anyway).
His position as leader is the most secure in the country right now - Brown could go at anytime and Clegg and Cameron are only on a five month lease - Griffin will still be there this time next year.
butchersapron
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'C18' and people who post on guestbooks like that are fuck all to with the BNP - they're the people Griffin has driven from the party or at least made utterly weightless politically. They're the people whose default position is that the BNP are a sell-out of white nationalism. They're simply not the BNP rank and file anymore and haven't been for some time now. It would be a terrible mistake to confuse all racists with the BNP, esp when it's these ideologically committed nutjobs who are actually opposed to the BNP rather thna being unhappy voices from inside.
TremulousTetra
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Daily Mail etc 12 year campaign against Asylum Seekers, immigrants, Muslims etc?
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butchersapron
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Thanks for that. What point are you making by posting a link to a video of a leading BNP member saying that the NF run Redwatch and that it's nothing to do with the BNP? I can only presume that you're posting it in support of my post that the nutjobs have by and large been chased out of the BNP or rendered politically ineffective.
audiotech
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Collett said it was 'nothing to do with me'. On another video I've seen on YouTube Collett is in a house wimpering in the presence of two people, including one player who runs redwatch.
butchersapron
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audiotech
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Had a close connection to be in the same room with one of the people who runs redwatch don't you think?
butchersapron
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Considering there's a handful of white nationalists in leeds, no not really - the only remarkable thing about that vid is how anyone would allow themselves to be bullied by that pair of clowns. I know swp and SP and all sorts in Bristol - doesn't mean i run the local SWP or SP. Is your suggestion really that the BNP run redwatch? edit: and that, by extension and in line with rmp3's mysterious post, that the BNP's turn away from the nutjobs over the last 10 years hasn't actually took place.That a whole host of commentators from all sorts of differing perspectives have conjured it up out of nowhere?
butchersapron
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You think the BNP run redwatch? Where are these attacks on non-bnp nationalists?
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butchersapron
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Indeed, so now we have both rmp3 and MC5 posting in support of the idea that the BNP doesn't run redwatch.
It's fairly obvious that some individuals in the BNP would approve of Redwatch and seek to collaborate with it, despite, as has been mentioned, the hostility of those running it, past and present, to most of what the BNP is currently trying to do. It doesn't mean that the BNP runs Redwatch, which is a paper tiger anyway. A hobby for mental cases.
I find it very odd the establishment political parties are so scared of the BNP they are going to such lengths to stop Griffin standing at the general election.
They would do much better to address the issues effecting the poor white working class all three main parties seem to have abandoned.
They would do much better to address the issues effecting the poor white working class all three main parties seem to have abandoned.
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