editor is afraid of the competition...editor said:I'd hate to think of you as a blustering bullshitter
editor is afraid of the competition...editor said:I'd hate to think of you as a blustering bullshitter
I'm afraid the token smiley isn't going to help you there.DrJazzz said:editor is afraid of the competition...
editor said:I'd hate to think of you as a blustering bullshitter, so be sure to furnish me with some information as to exactly who's been screaming 'tin foil hat' in this thread.
DrJazzz said:editor is afraid of the competition...
Actually, the only person still banging on about 'tin foil hats' is you.fela fan said:But you already do think that of me, so nothing can be done there. So don't hate it, don't beat yourself over it.
Ah, back to the personal attacks again.fela fan said:He doesn't know what it looks like... the mirror's cloudy .
WouldBe said:Why go to the trouble of faking 4 phone calls from a husband to his wife when 1 would have done?
editor said:Ah, back to the personal attacks again.
editor said:Actually, the only person still banging on about 'tin foil hats' is you.
I suggest you get over it and concentrate your energies on producing a remotely plausible, of-this-planet explanation for those lengthy phone calls between loved ones.
I'm afraid your 'all stressed people sound the same - even to their wives' line really is about as poor and as feeble an 'argument' as you can get.
Whatever for? Why put them through a pointless cross examination just to please the fevered, fact-free imaginations of bedroom conspiracy theorists?fela fan said:And i would most certainly like the 911 commission to interview all those loved ones that received these phone calls.
editor said:The notion that it's possible for the USG to instantly replicate word-perfect, partner-fooling voice fascimilies of hosts of people who weren't even supposed to be on the flight is truly beyond the realms of fantasy.
But not in your world, apparently.
As usual, I've no idea what you're on about but I'm intrigued by this concept of 'half-banning' someone.fela fan said:And are you not yet ready to confirm to the audience here about that last bit of speech you made up about me?
editor said:As usual, I've no idea what you're on about but I'm intrigued by this concept of 'half-banning' someone.
How does that work, then?
Do they have to share each post with fellow half-banned posters?
Diamond said:Fela fan you've be calling for someone to provide a good reason to back up the USG's version of events which you perceive to be fallacious and littered with glaring contradictions.
So working on that assumption one has to analyse this event in a greater context, a larger international framework. I believe that if you take into account the sheer and unchecked power of the behemoth that is the USa and the USG (remember we are talking about administrations and governments here, there is a big difference) and if you take into account the number of largely unprovoked 'incursions' that they have gotten away with in recent history, it becomes quite clear that the USG did not need a pretext to embark on their current campaign of aggression let alone one that involved murdering thousands of their own civilians.
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What the fuck are you on about? Ar you really this fucking stupid?fela fan said:Nonsense, and legally defamatory i believe. NOt that i give a monkeys for all those lawyer bastards and the ridiculous laws, but you really should take that back. You not only quoted it as if by me, you even highlighted it.
editor said:What the fuck are you on about? Ar you really this fucking stupid?
If I was quoting you, I'd use quotation marks and attribute your comments. Like this: you said, "blah blah blah".
What I was doing was paraphrasing your fucking stupid argument where you make the moronic claim that all stressed people sound the same.
No, I'm talking about the Pentagon plane - apologies for the confusion.editor said:I'm having trouble keeping up with your ever-more complex conspiracy-tastic scenarios of switched planes, shot down airliners and faked calls: so are you saying that the aircraft that hit the WTC wasn't a passenger aircraft?
So where's the original plane, crew and passengers gone?!
I have accurately represented your ludicrous explanation.fela fan said:Well, your 'paraphrasing' then and again (last paragraph here where i've quoted you) is quite simply wrong, firstly coz i never said that, and secondly coz it could never be properly construed that that was my meaning.
editor said:I have accurately represented your ludicrous explanation.
I do hope you won't embarrass yourself further with more comically ill-informed threats about defamation.
End of.
goldenecitrone said:I don't know why you bother ed. You'd have more chance convincing David Irving that the Holocaust had taken place.
Jangla said:No, I'm talking about the Pentagon plane - apologies for the confusion.
And a correction to an earlier post of mine - all craft, in fact, turned of their transponders, it's just that one flight path had to be estimated as it was completey off radar.
11 suspect aircraft on September 11: here
As far as I can find, there were only calls made from Flight 93 - the one that was destroyed before reaching it's target. One call confused me a little. A man phones his own mother and introduces himself thusly: "Mom, this is Mark Bingham". Strange way of introducing yourself to your Mum but nothing can be assumed from this - I just found it strange.
Calls made by the captain to ATC said "we have a bomb on board [unintelligible secion of tape] - I am going back to the airport, they have met our demands". Another strange one - why would the captain make demands of the hijackers? Shouldn't that be the other way around?
Anyway, assuming the calls are real (which I believe, despite the anomalies above), we can confirm that there were real people on board flight 93. As for the other flights, without flight recorders or calls made by people on board, it's reasonably safe to hold the belief that there was no-one else on board aside from the captain or they were controlled remotely.
I'm still looking for evidence of calls made from the other planes....
"All"?fela fan said:Look! They're all ganging up on me.
I really don't know why I bother. Really. Are you incapable of doing the most basic of research?Jangla said:As far as I can find, there were only calls made from Flight 93 - the one that was destroyed before reaching it's target.
...businessman Peter Burton Hanson calls his father from Flight 175 and says, “Oh, my God! They just stabbed the airline hostess. I think the airline is being hijacked.” Despite being cut off twice, he manages to report how men armed with knives are stabbing flight attendants, apparently in an attempt to force crew to unlock the doors to the cockpit. He calls again and says good-bye just before the plane crashes
http://tinyurl.com/2curz
Inside Flight 11 and near the back of the plane, flight attendant Betty Ong calls Vanessa Minter at American Airlines reservations in North Carolina, using a seatback GTE Airfone
http://tinyurl.com/2wmby
A passenger on Flight 77, Barbara Olson, calls her husband, Theodore (Ted) Olson, who is Solicitor General at the Justice Department. Ted Olson is in his Justice Department office watching WTC news on television when his wife calls. A few days later, he says, “She told me that she had been herded to the back of the plane. She mentioned that they had used knives and box cutters to hijack the plane. She mentioned that the pilot had announced that the plane had been hijacked.”
http://tinyurl.com/3brwg
So my web searching isn't as skilled as yours. I simply asked for more info - thanks for supplying it but the personal attack really isn't necessary.editor said:I really don't know why I bother. Really. Are you incapable of doing the most basic of research?
What's the point of debating here if you can;t be fucking arsed to do anything yourself?
It takes milliseconds to find plenty of news sources listing the phone calls made from other flights.
editor said:"All"?
You mean all one of 'them' offering a personal opinion about you?
You're making a fucking twat of yourself today. Really.
Go for a walk or something