Wot? No Apprentice 2013 Thread?

[kabbes]

The difference being that conforming with social norms on choice of tie and suit colour doesn't result in people castigating you for wearing something "impractical".

If women turn up wearing something other than socially accepted norms, they will be accused of all sorts of things, from being "frumpy" to "kooky". They literally cannot win.

 

[Fez909]

I wouldn't presume to know for all of them, but if the reason was because they feel pressure to conform to type, yet are supposed to be coming up with original business plans, I would have that as a question mark, if I was judging. Just as much as I would judge a male candidate by choice of tie, shoes, colour of socks, button down collar, cut of his suit..

This is interesting because as you say, they're meant to be original, but you just know that if one of them dressed in an unconventional way, that Sirallen would mention it as if it was an issue. Weirdly, I think he'd be more likely to point it out if it was a man, than a woman.

Oh, and thanks kabbes. I thought maybe I'd over-reacted in this thread and @joutmaster made me stop and think that maybe I'm seeing sexism where none exists. I re-read the thread and it still felt off, though, and you've articulated some stuff that I wasn't able to.

 

[tommers]

Kabbes you are quite right, but we all know that.

Can we move on to taking the piss again though please?

I thought that allocating a man who cannot handle alcohol due to his religious beliefs to work in a brewery was insensitive at best, offensive at worst.

That posh academic man is proper bonzo. He has GOT to stay in.

 

[kabbes]

The Apprentice isn't as good as it was, though, largely because the candidates are nowhere near AS useless as they once were. People doing things well is boring, and they do quite a lot well now. Remember that guy taking shitty sausages to France and then trying to cook them on a stove made out of a tin can? We need more of that sort of thing!

 

[joustmaster]

I thought that allocating a man who cannot handle alcohol due to his religious beliefs to work in a brewery was insensitive at best, offensive at worst.

Or letting a woman work out the maths on the proportions for the flavourings..


See, now that's sexist.

 

[Santino]

The Apprentice isn't as good as it was, though, largely because the candidates are nowhere near AS useless as they once were. People doing things well is boring, and they do quite a lot well now. Remember that guy taking shitty sausages to France and then trying to cook them on a stove made out of a tin can? We need more of that sort of thing!

Trying to flog beer on the basis of smell alone was quite good though.

 

[kabbes]

Trying to flog beer on the basis of smell alone was quite good though.

Yes, that's the kind of thing that makes the programme entertaining!

 

[RedDragon]

The Apprentice isn't as good as it was, though, largely because the candidates are nowhere near AS useless as they once were. People doing things well is boring, and they do quite a lot well now

Trying to sell beer to those publicans with their only sample being an empty bottle was idiotic.

eta: oops beaten to it.

 

[tommers]

The Apprentice isn't as good as it was, though, largely because the candidates are nowhere near AS useless as they once were. People doing things well is boring, and they do quite a lot well now. Remember that guy taking shitty sausages to France and then trying to cook them on a stove made out of a tin can? We need more of that sort of thing!

Well, next week is the "create a brand" week and Dara reckons it is something else. So there.

Do you really think they've got better? There's always been some decent ones in there, along with the performing monkeys.

I think it's got worse just cos it's been the same format since it started. Which is fine, it's just pretty light entertainment, but it does get a bit repetitive.

 

[paulhackett]

They have hinted at the Business suggestions they have this season, which they haven't done before? Would be nice to know more (even thematically) about what their ideas are as it tends to be a sea of screeching faces in the first few weeks.

It's a pity Sugar can't fire people from the winning team for being shit. There are a lot who fly under the radar of others. We can only guess what the student is about until he's on a team that's lost a task and is in the boardroom. Or yes, why choose someone to make something they can't test, so the team leader would have had some q's to answer. Or yes, sniff the bottle.

 

[DexterTCN]

Or letting a woman work out the maths on the proportions for the flavourings..


See, now that's sexist.

They learn to count after they marry. "Where's the change?" "That's not right" "Let's see...you got paid xxx so you should now have..."

 

[kabbes]

They learn to count after they marry. "Where's the change?" "That's not right" "Let's see...you got paid xxx so you should now have..."

I'm not sure whether you're telling us that you are utterly irresponsible, meaning that your wife needs to keep a close eye on you, for fear of you bankrupting your family. Or if you are telling us that you have terrible decision making skills when it comes to selecting a partner. Which is it?

 

[DexterTCN]

both

 

[belboid]

The difference being that conforming with social norms on choice of tie and suit colour doesn't result in people castigating you for wearing something "impractical".

If women turn up wearing something other than socially accepted norms, they will be accused of all sorts of things, from being "frumpy" to "kooky". They literally cannot win.

Nonsense. These are a bunch of egomaniacs whose dress reflects their stereotypical views of what being a kickass businessperson entails. Why is it okay to laugh at their stupid and inappropriate comments and actions but not their stupid and inappropriate clothes? Wearing massive heels when moving beer barrels around? Fucking stupid. Of course the men were also fucking stupid - who wears a suit to a beer festival? Even if their beer had been nice and cheap that would still put potential customers off. Wear appropriate clothing, its not rocket science.

Of course, they have to be set up to be fucking idiots, because the shows format has pretty much run its course, and there's nothing left but to laugh at everyone playing up to the stereotypes, the blokes waving their dicks around and the women (sorry, the 'girls') being bitches. It'll change a bit around week eight when most of the biggest fools will have gone.

 

[Spod]

Is this going to be the 'Apprentice 2013 thread' or just for arguments about sexism aspects etc can we get back to taking this piss out candidates etc

 

[Santino]

Is this going to be the 'Apprentice 2013 thread' or just for arguments about sexism aspects etc can we get back to taking this piss out candidates etc

We must challenge sexism wherever we find it. You can't fight a war on alternate Wednesdays.

 

[weltweit]

So, foldo or cube, place your bets!!

 

[paulhackett]

So, foldo or cube, place your bets!!

The cube is just a box with a cushion on it isn't it?

 

[magneze]

Foldo looks pretty cool. Wtf is the other thing???!!!

 

[trashpony]

Foldo looks pretty cool. Wtf is the other thing???!!!

Its a tidysidey

 

[paulhackett]

or just buy a folding chair for a tenner

 

[Santino]

You can remove the cushions from the foldo to provide extra storage space. Space for the things displaced by having to store the cushions somewhere, presumably.

 

[Big Gunz]

Racists, picking on the two non whites again!

 

[gosub]

Why has Karen Hardy got a penguin nestling between her tits?

 

[Big Gunz]

Why has Karen Hardy got a penguin nestling between her tits?

Why you looking at her tits?

 

[gosub]

I'm not I'm looking at an appalling dress

 

[weltweit]

I liked Sophie, probably because she is the least like the bossy egomaniac rest of the women this year. However, as someone who did not do sales or pitching, she was never going to win.

 

[Big Gunz]

^^Why was she selected then? Ticks the eye candy box?

 

[weltweit]

^^Why was she selected then? Ticks the eye candy box?

Interesting question, why was she a candidate? 22, just graduated, little business experience, a resteraunt but claims she cannot sell, cannot pitch, cannot design.. why was she there?

She first worked as a catering company waitress and at the age of 19 began running her own restaurant whilst still studying as a student. She is passionate about food and describes herself as innovative and intelligent

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p017h0j7/profiles/sophie-lau

 

[Big Gunz]

Interesting question, why was she a candidate? 22, just graduated, little business experience, a resteraunt but claims she cannot sell, cannot pitch, cannot design.. why was she there?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p017h0j7/profiles/sophie-lau

We know the show is a farce and has lost all it's credibility. I only watch it to laugh at morons.