World Cup Final 2023: England V Spain
- Thread starter Maggot
- Start date
savoloysam
Pigman's pigman's ha ha charade you are..
Players starting to look really nervous and flakey. Can't see us getting back into this
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
I'm no clearer about what the stand was all about from the Spain players.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
It was a protest against the manager's methods. No idea what those methods were.
No, I haven't heard an explanation about that either. He seems a good manager. Egos?
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
Two names: Wiegman, James.Players starting to look really nervous and flakey. Can't see us getting back into this
dessiato
🇪🇸 españa te quiero
Some players didn't like his style, felt there should be more and different training sessions. 15 signed an email to get him sacked. They withdraw from selection. The Spanish FA supported him, some changes were made so some players came back but were not selected, some stayed away, some who said they are up for selection were selected.
It's a long story
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Take 1-0 right now. Need to change things. I want to see James right now. Got to change things.
We’ll score here, just depends whether or not they get another.
Rebelda
Nearly as bad as Badgers
It's all been very vague publicly, although insiders are angry about it so must know more. Stuff to do with the manager overlooking emotional wellbeing and overwork/poor training methods. No sackings were called for, but coaching methods were queried iirc.
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
In September 2022, 15 players sent the federation separate but identical emails asking not to be called up to the national team, citing a lack of professionalism that each player wrote had an "important effect on my emotional state and by extension my health." They demanded "a clear commitment to a professional project with attention paid to all the aspects needed to get the best performance of this group of players" in the email.
April
A handful of players felt optimistic about the progress in discussion with the federation, which included hiring more support staff and improved travel conditions plus more freedom during camp. Eight of the 15 players who sent emails in September, as a result, made themselves available for selection on the World Cup team. Three eventually made the cut -- Bonmati, Caldentey, and Batlle.
Edit found more
According to a report in The Athletic, among other publications, the players were unhappy with what they thought was poor tactical and physical preparation from the coaching staff, a poor standard of training sessions and some of Vilda’s rules being too controlling or overbearing.
April
A handful of players felt optimistic about the progress in discussion with the federation, which included hiring more support staff and improved travel conditions plus more freedom during camp. Eight of the 15 players who sent emails in September, as a result, made themselves available for selection on the World Cup team. Three eventually made the cut -- Bonmati, Caldentey, and Batlle.
Edit found more
According to a report in The Athletic, among other publications, the players were unhappy with what they thought was poor tactical and physical preparation from the coaching staff, a poor standard of training sessions and some of Vilda’s rules being too controlling or overbearing.
savoloysam
Pigman's pigman's ha ha charade you are..
When you play three at the back you're depending on the wingers to tuck in out of possession. That hasn't been happening hence we look wide open
Oh christ. ITV have adverts AND Ian Wright.
The beeb doesn't start till 9.45
I’ had Fox Sports on stream and the two US commentators couldn’t hide their bias for Spain.
I’ve got mash potatoes and a belly full of flatulence.
Come on England!
Watching the England women is exactly like watching the England men. Too static, too much relying on strength rather than skill (despite clearly having the skill), not enough looking for the quick early attacking pass, too much going backwards. But they can still beat anyone on their day through sheer persistence and organised kicking.
In short, England in all sports seem to be the Peter Ebdon of that sport.
In short, England in all sports seem to be the Peter Ebdon of that sport.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
We were definitely getting a bit desperate by the end, but we did also have some genuinely good chances ourselves. Hopefully build on that and sort out the other in the second half...
Egos then. He's clearly been doing something right, even without 7 first team players. They probably get quite pampered at Real and Barca.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Hemp's been excellent. Toone's been anonymous. Need James now!
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
Yeh it needs to be more 3 going forward then 5 when defending. It works but needs to be well drilled with exceptional wingbacks/wingers. They just look outnumbered at the moment.When you play three at the back you're depending on the wingers to tuck in out of possession. That hasn't been happening hence we look wide open
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
I think that's harsh. We were fantastic in the semi, it wasn't about brawn and effort. Problem is we haven't had the chance to play so far.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Definitely. Russo, Hemp, James, Toone have all been fantastic attacking forces at various times. Seen glimpses of that today.
ska invita
back on the other side
But...Players starting to look really nervous and flakey. Can't see us getting back into this
It's a game of two halves
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
James on yes. Russo off no.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
James on.
cupid_stunt
Merry fecking Christmas.
Fingers crossed these changes improve things.
Steel Icarus
ersatz maven
Russo and Daly off! Wtf. I trust the boss but that's a huge call.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Russo off is a bit mad.
