Not if the referee were able to explain it's in the context of research based remote workingWouldn't they speak to the referee and they'd have to awkwardly explain it's off a forum
How many gaps and for how long? I suppose what I'm asking is, in an ideal world what would you need your referee to say here?I'd just filled out previous employers and hoped for the best. But having looked over it again, it is requesting personal referees, who would be able to account for any employment gaps So an employer I worked under for six months a couple of years ago isn't going to cut it
How many gaps and for how long? I suppose what I'm asking is, in an ideal world what would you need your referee to say here?
I get all my references from Urban.Do internet people count?
That's the ticket - you sure you didn't go backpacking round Europe at any point in all that?There is an 8 month gap between leaving a job and starting college.
5 month gap between finishing college and finding work.
A 3 month gap between a temporary work contract ending, then getting called back to that job again.
The rest of the time if I've not been working I've been in full-time college or uni.
Problem is some of that time off was down to health problems which I have not mentioned, so I've just accounted for it as 'jobseeking' periods.
That's the ticket - you sure you didn't go backpacking round Europe at any point in all that?
You did some fruit picking, in France. Some bar work in Spain Can't remember the addresses as you moved around a lot. *shrug*I can't comfortably tell lies like that, what if they grill me.
I'm pretty sure that during that time you were doing quite a lot of work on a number of projects which loads of us benefited from and could quite easily provide a reference for. I know I could, if you wanted.There is an 8 month gap between leaving a job and starting college.
5 month gap between finishing college and finding work.
A 3 month gap between a temporary work contract ending, then getting called back to that job again.
The rest of the time if I've not been working I've been in full-time college or uni.
Problem is some of that time off was down to health problems which I have not mentioned, so I've just accounted for it as 'jobseeking' periods.
I'm pretty sure that during that time you were doing quite a lot of work on a number of projects which loads of us benefited from and could quite easily provide a reference for. I know I could, if you wanted.
Thanks, I might take you up on that. I've just managed to procure one legit reference, so I'm just seeing if i can find another one, if I can't I'll PM you.
What sort of projects?
I was thinking along the lines of researching educational options, how to find employment in an area where there's fierce competition for available jobs, the practicalities of finding housing, the effect of isolation on students that don't follow the traditional route into higher education. That sort of thing. Would that work? All stuff that's valid research for an HR person like me and that I could talk about as a referee.
Can go for that then if you want. We can do the details on a PM maybe.That sounds awesome! Especially since it will account for the unemployment in a positive way, whereas I'm a bit worried what my other reference will say about those periods.
Can go for that then if you want. We can do the details on a PM maybe.
what you need is say someone who was the director of a company that has since been dissolved who really doesn't give a shit about the odd porky or two.. now if only there was someone on here like that...
oh wait...
There ya go, you got it sorted! It was only a back up plan anywayThanks for this guys but I just got a couple of emails back (i emailed my parents, and they have gotten references from neighbours, workmates etc who know me irl) so panic over, I have my references. I really appreciate the offers, I'm sure your references would be far superior to the ones I actually get, but it's probably better to have truly legit ones
There ya go, you got it sorted! It was only a back up plan anyway
But you actually were! That's what got you through and into a better place.Now I just need to school em on my unemployment. There were NO (euphemistically speaking) 'health problems' honest, I was assessing my future
But you actually were! That's what got you through and into a better place.
It's none of their business how you lead/have led your life, your decisions, your health, your [anything]. They are only entitled to know what's necessary to assess whether you can do the job - and as you say, they already know you can do the jobIt's actually true, it's just that any explanation would ideally leave out the fact I was in a bad place to begin with lol.
Tbf I am sure I've had these same anxieties every time I've filled out an application, and I've not had a problem yet. I doubt they check that thoroughly, especially since I've been working there for months already, they can just ask my manager how I'm doing.
It's none of their business how you lead/have led your life, your decisions, your health, your [anything]. They are only entitled to know what's necessary to assess whether you can do the job - and as you say, they already know you can do the job
They're buying your labour (and making a profit for themselves out of it) - they're not buying your lifeCool that does make me feel better.
They're buying your labour (and making a profit for themselves out of it) - they're not buying your life
That's part of the anxiety thing perhaps? That's the sort of thing I do too. I can spend ages reading and rereading something I've written till I just can't even see the words anymoreI know, but I always imagine a worst case scenario of them poring over my records.. 'unemployed for eight months eh, we must find out what he was up to' and so on
That's part of the anxiety thing perhaps? That's the sort of thing I do too. I can spend ages reading and rereading something I've written till I just can't even see the words anymore
The reality is that the HR person is probably following a fairly formulaic process and doing a cursory check on gaps and how those are covered, and probably has a pile of 200 or so application forms to sift through trying to watch out they don't miss something that might bite them on the arse later on such as not noticing that someone has said they need to be interviewed in a room without fluorescent lighting or somesuch.Aw yeah it definitely is, like I've been visualising myself sitting in an HR office being grilled over my past history. Realistically, that is not likely to happen!
The reality is that the HR person is probably following a fairly formulaic process and doing a cursory check on gaps and how those are covered, and probably has a pile of 200 or so application forms to sift through trying to watch out they don't miss something that might bite them on the arse later on such as not noticing that someone has said they need to be interviewed in a room without fluorescent lighting or somesuch.