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Woolwich soldier killed (was "Did cops just shoot 2 dead in woolwich?")

True, but on reading the attempted beheading of a soldier, my first thought wouldn't be "Fucking crackheads", as Banhof's seemed to be. There's loads of crackheads running around up to all kinds of nonsense. Heads seldom get chopped off in your average crackheads day to day milieu though.

As an aside. Thanks for using the word milieu. I wanted to use that in a post the other day but my spelling being so bad, it wouldn't come up in Google. "mi."

Any Teresa May, stupid cunt. I was in the pub, TV news was on. Attack on everyone in the UK. Yeah, pouring oil on flames. Get another speach writer or better still, just shut the fuck up.
 
How so?

If you had just seen some mad guy slice open a body and come towards you with his weapons in hand, would you decide to get your iPhone out and offer a video?
If you saw some mad guy with a knife and a cleaver who looked like they could outrun you come towards you and demand that you film them there is every chance you would do what they said.
 
As an aside. Thanks for using the word milieu. I wanted to use that in a post the other day but my spelling being so bad, it wouldn't come up in Google. "mi."

Any Teresa May, stupid cunt. I was in the pub, TV news was on. Attack on everyone in the UK. Yeah, pouring oil on flames. Get another speach writer or better still, just shut the fuck up.

She speaks like one of those text to speech programs or a train station announcement regarding the slippery weather. Its very odd.
 
Oh FFS. This would be the lead story even if it had happened in Belfast. Even without the video. The attempted beheading, the Islamist speech, the killers filming everything, the WOT context...it would definitely beat today's other top stories.
Fair enough, but Stans reading of it is as balanced as any other.
 
"Then I saw my bus was moving and I knew that the police would arrive very soon. I asked him if there was anything else I could do for him because my bus was about to leave and he said no.

Jesus fucking wept. Is anyone believing this?
 
Oh FFS. This would be the lead story even if it had happened in Belfast. Even without the video. The attempted beheading, the Islamist speech, the killers filming everything, the WOT context...it would definitely beat today's other top stories.

The lead story where?
 
The scout lady has given an even better interview to the Guardian:​

If that's what happened, and I've no reason to doubt her, then the bravery and calmness she showed in a totally unexpected, bizarre event, was bloody remarkable. She didn't even feel 'annoyed' until she was dumped off the bus in lewisham.
 
Jesus fucking wept. Is anyone believing this?
Yes I am. Some people act cold and rational at the time.

An old boy at one of the sheltered schemes fell backwards and hit his head on a table corner. I could see his brain.

One of the ambulance crew puked when they saw him. Only hours later after he'd been carted off to hospital did I start to shake.
 
Always late to the party...

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There were a few EDL folks still milling around. Probably the closest I've got to that kind of thing, very strange walking round and seeing people and knowing why they were there. Was also aware that even though I was there and disagreed with these people and felt uncomfortable in their presence, I'm white, so I was never in any real danger unless I started something. Lots of people just on their way home must have felt far less secure :(

Wonder if that'll be the end of it.
 
Got to Woolwich just after 11:30 and as has already been stated it was already pretty much all done.

There were still a few questionable individuals milling around but no one actually doing anything. There were a fair few police vans and a few police officers in high vis wandering about but mostly it was just deserted. A woman who stopped to ask us whether we knew hotels in the area explained that the police closed all the shops/bars/restaurants so that people would leave.

One guy in a car did stop and yell across the road to ask if we knew where the EDL demo was :confused: :facepalm:

Edit: and Lord Cam beat me to it
 
Mentalist is unnecessary agreed. But I can easily see how mental health issues can have played a role here. To say that is not undermining the seriousness of the situation, nor is it letting the perpetrators off the hook.

Its unlikely tbh.. Religious extremists are often quite sane and fairly intelligent - within the framework of their belief system they're able to reason that their act is perfectly justifiable.
 
I do still feel like I'd like to do something to counter the EDL/anti-Islam aggression. A counter-protest seems to antagonistic for my liking, would just give the EDL the showdown they're craving (not to mention the media and politicos). Would prefer something which is more positive, about the strength in the community.

Times like these I wish I'd been more pro-active about learning skills and meeting people :facepalm: :(
 
One other thing I meant to say earlier but got lost, I find it remarkable that they supposedly attacked him just because he was wearing a Help for Heroes tshirt. I mean, I suppose they could have been angry merely at his support, but you'd think they'd make sure they knew their target was involved.

Nothing to say they didn't, of course, and the Help for Heroes aspect was just a coincidence.
 
Anyone else seen this stupid shit going around?

THE MUSLIMS ARE NOT HAPPY!
They’re not happy in Gaza.
They’re not happy in Egypt.
They’re not happy in Libya.
They’re not happy in Morocco.
They’re not happy in Iran.
They’re not happy in Iraq.
They’re not happy in Yemen.
They’re not happy in Afghanistan.
They’re not happy in Pakistan.
They’re not happy in Syria.
They’re not happy in Lebanon.
SO, WHERE ARE THEY HAPPY?
They’re happy in Australia.
They’re happy in Canada.
They’re happy in England.
They’re happy in France.
They’re happy in Italy.
They’re happy in Germany.
They’re happy in Sweden.
They’re happy in the USA.
They’re happy in Norway.
They’re happy in Holland.
They’re happy in Denmark.
Basically, they’re happy in every country that is not Muslim…and unhappy in every country that is!
AND WHO DO THEY BLAME?
Not Islam.
Not their leadership.
Not themselves.
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN! And then—wait for it!—they want to change those countries to be like….THE COUNTRIES THEY CAME FROM WHERE THEY WERE UNHAPPY!

:facepalm:
 
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