Plumdaff
joy in people
Really. I don't think you can tell a thing from that video tbh. Not a thing. People are much calmer in extremis than is imagined. Look at everyone else, look how they're reacting, is everyone in Woolwich temporarily insane?
Woolwich soldier killed (was "Did cops just shoot 2 dead in woolwich?")
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Really. I don't think you can tell a thing from that video tbh. Not a thing. People are much calmer in extremis than is imagined. Look at everyone else, look how they're reacting, is everyone in Woolwich temporarily insane?
rowdyyates
New Member
Has Al Qaeda claimed responsibility yet?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
So you don't like the brave squaddies just like yer man in woolwich
TruXta
tired
This bodes well.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
I can't read that.
Plumdaff
joy in people
No it isn't. You are talking crap
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Or believing that one sky fairy story is better than another one.
Can't say I have ever seen a video clip of a brave squaddie brandishing his weapon whilst talking to camera just seconds after slicing someone open. Most video clips I see of squaddies at war show them in a state of deep remorse and depression in such situations.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
I think he's a mentalist. Why do you think he did it?
you can, you're just being a dick.
TruXta
tired
Why are we not surprised? Unless it's a tech fault.
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
Because the stupid fucks who might end up kicking to death some poor shit who looks Muslim would be gloating over the fact they were dead instead of whining about how their in a hospital.
As an ex nurse I feel sorry for the people who have to care for them. Not only would you have to care for someone proffesionally
who you may dislike and may dislike you. You will also be in a media whirlwind and have to deal with their guards.
I looked after a prisoner in Florida whose armed guard hated him. We were never told what they had done ,but, I would have to stay in the room while he ate or the guard would spit in his food
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
Not a sign of extremist ideology then. You underestimate the dangers of fucked up beliefs if you just put it down to mental health issues, not to mention letting the perpetrators off the hook.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
What about a combination of the two? Mental health issues and being manipulated by people with extremist ideologies?
Plumdaff
joy in people
You can think what you like. You're still spouting poorly understood conjecture about mental health on the internet. We can't and don't know a thing, but there's no evidence of any acute illness in that clip.
I don't know why he did it. I think it's probably to do with the reasons he gives in the video, which are horrible but coherent . Better than your suggestion of being a 'mentalist' Nasty word to use btw.
shifting gears
Well-Known Member
Nice blinkers mate, they suit you
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
I suspect that those who are inclined to engage in retaliatory attacks would do so anyway.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Are we watching the same clip? The one with the bloke whose hands are covered in blood, brandishing a meat cleaver and a knife after just chopping someone's head off in the street? Looks pretty mental to me.
TruXta
tired
Mentalist is unnecessary agreed. But I can easily see how mental health issues can have played a role here. To say that is not undermining the seriousness of the situation, nor is it letting the perpetrators off the hook.
rowdyyates
New Member
However you want to look at it, murder & attempted beheading of a soldier on the streets of London is a fucking bad sign.
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
Quite possibly, but the point I'm making is that firstly, mental illness is most of the time not visible on the surface, and secondly, being mentally ill rarely makes a person a danger to others.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
I know. I'm looking at him in the context of what he's just done.
No blinkers. Just an awareness of war propaganda compared to this incident.
Sure, there are psychos in the army also. Perhaps army life and war turns them a bit psycho. However, I have never seen a video clip showing a soldier at war happy about killing their victim without remorse outside of a hellish war zone. Woolwich can be tough on a Friday night, but not like a real war. It is all about context of environment in this instance I guess.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
Some noble patriots enjoying themselves this evening. I wonder if they wish there were murders like this every day.
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J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Looks like he's picked up before getting to Woolwich
coley
Well-Known Member
They knew this was coming off? slow response due to coordinating response, temporary change of SOP in order to have live suspects available for interrogation?
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