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There is already the Ritzy cafe, and I'd imagine there will be one as part of the BAC too once that is open.
 
But the design of Windrush Square makes no provision for there to be any tables outside the Ritzy because it still assumes a path for vehicle movements in front of the Ritzy/Library.
 
any above ground structure would be an encroachment of common land and contravene the Rush Common Act 1806.

Acts can be got rid of just as easily as they were implemented.

Surely a 200 year old law that bears no resemblance to modern society's needs, when Brixton was a very different place, is no longer needed?

Especially when the area - the square - is technically already 'built on' by virtue of being mostly covered in paving slabs anyway?
 
There is already the Ritzy cafe, and I'd imagine there will be one as part of the BAC too once that is open.
Fwiw, I don't think this abbreviation can work given there's another BAC a couple of miles down the road and long-established; it's just going to cause endless confusion.
 
Acts can be got rid of just as easily as they were implemented.

Surely a 200 year old law that bears no resemblance to modern society's needs, when Brixton was a very different place, is no longer needed?

Especially when the area - the square - is technically already 'built on' by virtue of being mostly covered in paving slabs anyway?

The act refers to building "above the level of the land".

I'm not sure that the Rush Common Act is irrelevant. It plays an important part in maintaining the green spaces it created up Brixton Hill, Effra Road and Josephine Avenue (the long front gardens). Without it much of this land almost certainly would have been developed when the Regency houses were demolished and St Matthews Road Estates were built in the 60s-70s. Protection of Rush Common is a key part of Lambeth Planning's Unitary Development Plan (and they have responsibility for administering the Act too).

Having been overlooked for quite a long time, building encroachment on Rush Common is a sensitive issue at the moment and so I guess the council is keen not to see too much precedent allowing building upon it.

That said, the new Windrush sculptures would have required permission under the act so it seems that the council is prepared to take a pragmatic view on how to apply it.

I reckon giving a licence for one of those Piaggio coffee bikes to be based on the square might be a good start and then take it from there.
 
It was very busy in the slight sunshine this afternoon. A good mix of people incl skateboarders. No one seemed to be moving them on. I think its a real improvement on what was there before, a lot more open.
 
I just saw the plans for the BCA building on the website below. It doesn't look like there will be a cafe - a missed opportunity. It also seems, unless I am mistaken, that the BCA builiding will be behind a big wall/gate that will separate it from the square, which I think is a real shame.

http://theclarksonalliance.com/projects/heritage/black-cultural-archives/gallery
The Notice that a planning application has been made is now attached to the railings at the front of the building.

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I think the best idea is for a cafe to replace the old toilets. All the services are in place there, and it's well situated for the purpose. A cafe there would work a little like the gardeners huts in Soho Square and Golden Square
... Interesting examples in the light of me using A Mintons work. Both squares have gardeners who daily maintain the squares. They dont intrude on people but there presence does make the squares feel safe. There are gardeners huts in each square. It not that Gardeners pry into what people do its more that they are "eyes on the square" if anything does happen...
 
Here is are photos showing other ideas for square. I was in the Barbican last week at took these except the Sculpture which was in the entrance to the Royal Academy.

Most pleasant and this bit is open to public.
 

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A reminder of how much greenery we've lost (pic from Google Street Map)
 

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I was sure there was going to be a Cafe at one point.
The left hand side of the little square at the front of the BCA will be a cafe serving counter/bar but from the size of it, only for outdoor events - no sit down indoors space. The square itself has passive provision for a cafe in the middle somewhere near the grass, but it can't be built without some overruling of the Rush Common Act (as mentioned already on the thread), so it's all down to the Ritzy and their wonderful service to provide refreshments on the square
 
They've used those bolted down chairs on Great Suffolk Street too I've noticed. Although they're in backward facing twins...
The cycle racks at the Saltoun Road end are going to be pointless, perfect place to pinch something.
 
Went for a little sit down on the grass on Sunday afternoon/evening - lots more people using that end of the space than previously. Kids playing in the fountains, all the chairs occupied with people having a natter watching the world go by. Bike parking full of bikes, Ritzy cafe doing good trade. I'd call it a success.

Only downer was two arsehole cops hassling two old boys calming enjoying a few bottles of guiness on the seats under the tree - talking to them like they were retarded or something "If we catch you with AL - CO - HOL again, you will be A - REST - TED, do you UN - DER - STAND?". :mad: and then made them leave. Thank you brave officers for improving my security! Cunts.
 
At the weekend it was packed full of happy people, both on the green bits and the paved bits and the seating that all the old fogeys on here were getting their knickers all in a twist about.
Time for the cynics to admit they were wrong and abandon their attempts to get the terribly clever 'windswept square' moniker into common parlance.
That said I'm not so impressed to hear about the police hassling the guinness drinkers. Perhaps some sort off mass guinness drinking sit-down protest is required?
 
The square does seem to have come into it's own with the good weather... especially that fountain.

I had some time to kill so sit and read a book next to it one day last week and very pleasant it was. Nice to see people smiling and chatting to strangers. :)

Only things not to my taste are the 'windrush' sculpture and the donut-seat thingy but there seem to be lots of people who like the latter enough to use it so fair play to them.
 
At the weekend it was packed full of happy people, both on the green bits and the paved bits and the seating that all the old fogeys on here were getting their knickers all in a twist about.
Time for the cynics to admit they were wrong and abandon their attempts to get the terribly clever 'windswept square' moniker into common parlance.
That said I'm not so impressed to hear about the police hassling the guinness drinkers. Perhaps some sort off mass guinness drinking sit-down protest is required?

Actually im one of the old "fogeys" who recently told the Council to back off hassling the skateboarders. Along with a few other locals.

It is possible the Police have been told to back off. The Council did say they had asked the police to have a big presence when the square was open.

The issue of the drinkers has also been raised . My understanding is that the street drinkers outreach team has circulated leaflets and talked to street drinkers. They have been told if they dont annoy other people they will be left alone.

If this is not happening id like to know so it can be brought up with Council.
 
Rival market on Windrush Square

Apparently the council will be setting up a revenue generating market on Windrush Square.

Surely the last thing the failing indoor markets need is added competition?
 
The issue of the drinkers has also been raised . My understanding is that the street drinkers outreach team has circulated leaflets and talked to street drinkers. They have been told if they dont annoy other people they will be left alone.

If this is not happening id like to know so it can be brought up with Council.

That is good to know. If I see them being hassled I will be sure to report it here.
 
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