Will GDPR fuck up the "sign a petition against..." Trots?

[chilango]

Back in the day signatures were annotated and used as a contact list. Presumably now the Trots will have to gain proper data consent when hawking their wares?

 

[emanymton]

Back in the day signatures were annotated and used as a contact list. Presumably now the Trots will have to gain proper data consent when hawking their wares?

In my experance its more like they sat in a bag for 6 months then got binned.

 

[chilango]

In my experance its more like they sat in a bag for 6 months then got binned.

Was the bag secure? Is there a data retention schedule for how long before they're binned...

 

[emanymton]

I seem to remember hearing that some SWP bod once left a book full of memeber contact details in a phone box and some spet of fascist or far right type founs it.

 

[danny la rouge]

It fucked up Aurora Watch, and that makes me sad. I don't use social media (except U75), so I won't be able to get Aurora alerts any more.

 

[Teaboy]

I'I thought it was incorporated companies only?

I probably know jack tbf.

 

[chilango]

I seem to remember hearing that some SWP bod once left a book full of memeber contact details in a phone box and some spet of fascist or far right type founs it.

The version I heard involved him dropping his address book and running away from some approaching fash.

A serious data breach that I trust was reported to the ico.

 

[danny la rouge]

"We’re very proud that AuroraWatch UK has always operated within the spirit of what the new GDPR is trying to achieve - we take privacy and data security very seriously. However, we face challenges demonstrating when consent was received to store the email addresses of some 20,000 legacy users. Furthermore, the GDPR could result in significant financial penalties in the event of data loss. The upshot of this is that we will be securely deleting your subscription email address shortly".

 

[chilango]

I'I thought it was incorporated companies only?

I probably know jack tbf.

Stop ruining my "fun".

 

[Teaboy]

Stop ruining my "fun".

The trots probably are incorporated, I wouldn't put it past them.

 

[emanymton]

The version I heard involved him dropping his address book and running away from some approaching fash.

A serious data breach that I trust was reported to the ico.

Maybe it is two separate insurances. I think the one I heard about was in Leeds.

 

[chilango]

Maybe it is two separate insurances. I think the one I heard about was in Leeds.

The one I know of was in South Wales iirc.

 

[emanymton]

The one I know of was in South Wales iirc.

Then there were the two BNP infiltrators. The SWP might as well just email there membership list to every far right group.

 

[chilango]

Then there were the two BNP infiltrators. The SWP might as well just email there membership list to every far right group.

So long as they get explicit consent from everyone whoever signed a "petition against the Tories" I'm sure that'd be legit. Ish.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

"We’re very proud that AuroraWatch UK has always operated within the spirit of what the new GDPR is trying to achieve - we take privacy and data security very seriously. However, we face challenges demonstrating when consent was received to store the email addresses of some 20,000 legacy users. Furthermore, the GDPR could result in significant financial penalties in the event of data loss. The upshot of this is that we will be securely deleting your subscription email address shortly".

Can't you just resubscribe tomorrow?

 

[danny la rouge]

Can't you just resubscribe tomorrow?

Sadly no; they're not going to do emails any more. It's too much hassle. They're keeping their website and social media accounts, but they don't want to store emails.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Back in the day signatures were annotated and used as a contact list. Presumably now the Trots will have to gain proper data consent when hawking their wares?

Yes. It wouldn’t be compliant to use personal data given for the purposes of signing a petition for the purposes of spamming you about conferences you don’t want to go to. They would also be required to tell you if they were storing your details anywhere and remove them on request.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Sadly no; they're not going to do emails any more. It's too much hassle. They're keeping their website and social media accounts, but they don't want to store emails.

You just need to check the website every hour then.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Sadly no; they're not going to do emails any more. It's too much hassle. They're keeping their website and social media accounts, but they don't want to store emails.

That’s kind of depressing; it’s not hard to do this properly (they should have to begin with tbh) and putting updates for political groups on social is a shit way to do it and _much_ worse for privacy and data security. Not that this stops a lot of folk.

People used to use RSS feeds for this but that’s increasingly out of fashion. Nobody can tell if you are reading from an RSS feed apart from your ISP.

 

[danny la rouge]

and putting updates for political groups on social is a shit way to do it and _much_ worse for privacy and data security.

Aurora Watch lets you know if there's going to be Northern Lights.

(I'd rather talk about Northern Lights than weird rape apologist cults).

 

[keybored]

You just need to check the website every hour then.

Or look at the sky!

 

[danny la rouge]

Or look at the sky!

I need to reminded to do that, though.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Aurora Watch lets you know if there's going to be Northern Lights.

(I'd rather talk about Northern Lights than weird rape apologist cults).

Ah okay - well it’s still bad just practically tbh. Social is a poor medium for updates when everything apart from Twitter is displayed algorithmically based on who pays the most, and on Twitter one account gets drowned, unless you make sure to check just that one account regularly, at which point you might as well just check a website.

 

[danny la rouge]

on Twitter one account gets drowned, unless you make sure to check just that one account regularly, at which point you might as well just check a website

Precisely. I did Twitter for a while. (And for some of that time I did enjoy it). But it's just overwhelming. And I ended up doing exactly what you say: looking at the websites.

I also feel much more mentally well since giving it up.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Precisely. I did Twitter for a while. (And for some of that time I did enjoy it). But it's just overwhelming. And I ended up doing exactly what you say: looking at the websites.

I also feel much more mentally well since giving it up.

I really wish that RSS was still used widely, but the big net media companies have been trying to kill it off as much as possible. It’s a bit open standards and tracker/ad free. The net is now worse in many ways than it was ten years ago.

 

[danny la rouge]

I really wish that RSS was still used widely, but the big net media companies have been trying to kill it off as much as possible. It’s a bit open standards and tracker/ad free. The net is now worse in many ways than it was ten years ago.

I use feedly every day. I'm often frustrated that stuff I want to add to it doesn't have a format that allows me to.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I use feedly every day. I'm often frustrated that stuff I want to add to it doesn't have a format that allows me to.

If their website uses Wordpress, as many do, it may have an RSS feed active that exists without them even knowing about it. Or you could ask them to enable one.

 

[danny la rouge]

I had to manually unsubscribe from this one.

I must have signed a petition at some point, though I can't remember what. But I have at no point been a member or a supporter (declared or private) of the Scottish Greens, so why they'd put me on such a list I don't know.

 

[19force8]

So anyone know what happened to 38 degrees?

I used to be always getting emails from them and I've only just noticed that I haven't had any for ages.

 

[danny la rouge]

So anyone know what happened to 38 degrees?

I used to be always getting emails from them and I've only just noticed that I haven't had any for ages.

I think they died out instead of the bees.