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Why the Guardian is going down the pan!

ska invita said:
ethical dilemmas for guardian columnists pt 241
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pt 242
"In London, these so-called neighbourhood spots spring up in areas like Islington or Hackney, or any other place with a high concentration of upwardly mobile digital natives. These are consumers who snap photos of expensive pastries and hunt down dishes hyped up online, for whom food is yet another aspect of a curated, postable lifestyle.

As someone who has, in her time, queued 45 minutes for a falafel sandwich seen online, I am admittedly part of the crowd whose tastes these places are designed to appeal to. "
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never ending
 
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NOBODY GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT THE FUCKING GARRICK CLUB STOP GOING ON ABOUT THE GARRICK CLUB LIKE ITS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WTF EVEN IS THE GARRICK CLUB OTHER THAN A CLUB FOR CUNTS BURN THE BASTARD DOWN AND REPORT ON SOME PROPER FUCKING NEWS AND STOP CAMPAIGNING TO REFORM YOUR BASTARD ESTABLISHMENT CUNT CLUB YOU CUNTS
 
ska invita said:
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NOBODY GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT THE FUCKING GARRICK CLUB STOP GOING ON ABOUT THE GARRICK CLUB LIKE ITS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WTF EVEN IS THE GARRICK CLUB OTHER THAN A CLUB FOR CUNTS BURN THE BASTARD DOWN AND REPORT ON SOME PROPER FUCKING NEWS AND STOP CAMPAIGNING TO REFORM YOUR BASTARD ESTABLISHMENT CUNT CLUB YOU CUNTS
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I reckon one of the editors has been blackballed a few times :D

But yeah burn it down - preferably with as much of the establishment in it as possible
 
Elpenor said:
I reckon one of the editors has been blackballed a few times :D

But yeah burn it down - preferably with as much of the establishment in it as possible
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Well, the current editor being female..... the previous one was a member but had one of his nominees blackballed and quit.

I dont mind the campaign entirely. Sure, its glass ceiling trickle down bollocks, but it does something to expose that these places do still exist and do still have real power.
 
Dunno about it not being important. From that Guardian article:
On Thursday the Bar Council, the professional body for barristers, warned that exclusive members’ clubs created “the potential for unfair advantage” for lawyers seeking to become judges. “Closed doors and exclusionary spaces do not foster support or collaboration between colleagues,” the organisation’s chair said.
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which has always for me been the reason the masons are so corrosive, although I know this isn't a popular view within urban. For them though it's not just for lawyers seeking to become judges - for promotion in any of the professions that are well represented: solicitors, barristers, judges, police ... Of course you're going to fucking prefer your mates that you share shit with. And of course criminals are going to join to get ahead in their chosen profession too.
 
My Nan used to work there. Way back when. They let women in even Scottish ones, but only if they’re waitressing.
ska invita said:
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NOBODY GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT THE FUCKING GARRICK CLUB STOP GOING ON ABOUT THE GARRICK CLUB LIKE ITS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WTF EVEN IS THE GARRICK CLUB OTHER THAN A CLUB FOR CUNTS BURN THE BASTARD DOWN AND REPORT ON SOME PROPER FUCKING NEWS AND STOP CAMPAIGNING TO REFORM YOUR BASTARD ESTABLISHMENT CUNT CLUB YOU CUNTS
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two sheds said:
Dunno about it not being important. From that Guardian article:

which has always for me been the reason the masons are so corrosive, although I know this isn't a popular view within urban. For them though it's not just for lawyers seeking to become judges - for promotion in any of the professions that are well represented: solicitors, barristers, judges, police ... Of course you're going to fucking prefer your mates that you share shit with. And of course criminals are going to join to get ahead in their chosen profession too.
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Shocking revelation to everyone. But apparently it’s now news.
 
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I only wanted to pay for the crosswords, not the news :D
Their loss though, as I doubt I’ll start paying for an app when i can still access everything via a browser for free.
Their business model is surely unsustainable if they’re expecting people to pay for news when it’s just as easy to access it for free via a slightly different format/medium.
 
Orang Utan said:
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I only wanted to pay for the crosswords, not the news :D
Their loss though, as I doubt I’ll start paying for an app when i can still access everything via a browser for free.
Their business model is surely unsustainable if they’re expecting people to pay for news when it’s just as easy to access it for free via a slightly different format/medium.
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That's a problem that all newspapers face. The Guardian has a slight advantage in that it's not expected to make money - it has a trust for that. But it is expected to pay its own bills at least, and it's not doing that either. The NYT has plunged head on into the games side to drive traffic to the main site, so they could take that approach. But I don't think the Grauniad pulls even a fraction of the NYT's traffic for their crossword.
 
Chz said:
That's a problem that all newspapers face. The Guardian has a slight advantage in that it's not expected to make money - it has a trust for that. But it is expected to pay its own bills at least, and it's not doing that either. The NYT has plunged head on into the games side to drive traffic to the main site, so they could take that approach. But I don't think the Grauniad pulls even a fraction of the NYT's traffic for their crossword.
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The Guardian launched an app back in the dark ages which hundreds of thousands of readers paid a fiver for. The current management still remembers this and has an unreasonable belief that content on apps will attract subscriptions even when it is given away for free on the web version.
 
Orang Utan said:
Can someone please explain to me why the Guardian continues to exist if it doesn’t make any money?
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Because the entire purpose of the Scott Trust is for the Guardian to exist “as heretofore” and in the past it has made some smart investments, from the Manchester Evening News to 119 Farringdon Road to AutoTrader and EMAP, all of which, disposed of at various points as the newspaper business model collapsed, enable the trustees to fulfil the remit set out in Scott’s will.

It is the only media business, I believe, to be effectively run by a ghost.
 
What was the remit of Scott’s will? Who was Scott? You’re assuming I know anything at all about the Guardian’s ownership but i literally haven’t given it any thought until today. I know i could google but there’s a lot of words out there, many of them typos.
 
Orang Utan said:
What was the remit of Scott’s will? Who was Scott? You’re assuming I know anything at all about the Guardian’s ownership but i literally haven’t given it any thought until today. I know i could google but there’s a lot of words out there, many of them typos.
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C P Scott’s family founded the Guardian, and he owned and edited it for much of the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. He bequeathed it to his son, John Russell Scott. Contrary to what I have always thought and set out above, it was John Scott who actually founded the Scott Trust in the 1930s, to ensure that his father’s wishes for the continuation of the paper were adhered to, and crucially that it could be handed on following his own death without inheritance tax being due. The Scott Trust then became a limited company in 2008, again for tax reasons,

But the phrase “as heretofore” is fundamental to the stated purpose of the Scott Trust in all its guises, and the trustees agonised in the noughties over whether this would be observed if the Guardian was to go online only. Their view was that ultimately digitalisation would not betray the Scott ghosts.
 
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‘Petrified’ non-doms poised to flee UK over Labour’s tax plans, say experts
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‘Petrified’ non-doms poised to flee UK over Labour’s tax plans, say experts

Prospect of party closing Tory ‘loopholes’ if elected prompts some wealthy individuals to explore a move overseas
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“I’ve got people who only moved to the UK recently, and have built their lives and businesses here and have their children in schools here,” said Shah. “But from next April they will be exposed to worldwide taxation. It is a cliff edge; it’s not surprising that they are looking at leaving.”

Miles Dean, a partner and head of international tax at the tax advisory firm Andersen, said his advice to clients was simple: “If you can leave within six months, make plans to leave now. The UK is no longer safe as a tax environment.”
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Boo fucking hoo. TBF the piece is not totally a puff piece for non-doms. But it is the last sentence that is great
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Lol "flee" as though they're being purusued by jackbooted troopers - I'd love to see these people try to claim refugee status on the basis of "they tried to make me pay the same taxes as eveyrone else." Except because they're all rich what they'll actually do is buy a new house in another country using the tax money they've not been paying.
 
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