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butchersapron said:
Did you miss the example of Orgreave that Idris gave?

I'm afraid I don't speak your language. Please engage with someone else.

Do please try reading my language then : the information about Orgreave posted earlier really is worth taking on board, there's plenty of raw material available online showing how misleading (to say the least!) was the BBC's contemporary take on it.

krtek a houby said:
I'm dismissing butcher's post, not the allegation. I have an open mind and I remember the strike but at the same time, I was 14 and in Ireland - so no, I haven't come across it.

Take a look -- worth a bit of your time, seriously :)
 
Privately educated obxbridge girl/full-time anti-social security campaigner/part-time Newsnight political editor Allegra Stratton on her program last night argued that all the cuts have to be defended by labour from now on and they need to find a political method to sell even more as part of their approach to the next general election, and they have to do this because the cuts are a) working and b) massively popular.
 
Their Olympic coverage on News24 is now almost constant.

Countless international conflicts around the globe taking place as we speak, a financial crisis worsening by the day, and I switch news24 on after my dinner and all I can see is a succession of tenuous Olympic links. 20 mins and counting without any semblance of actual 'news'.

FFS. Idiots.
 
Their Olympic coverage on News24 is now almost constant.

Countless international conflicts around the globe taking place as we speak, a financial crisis worsening by the day, and I switch news24 on after my dinner and all I can see is a succession of tenuous Olympic links. 20 mins and counting without any semblance of actual 'news'.

FFS. Idiots.
Yes i was welcomed by a screen on my freeview about retuning the box to get the coverage of the games .I am not really looking forward to these games
 
Privately educated obxbridge girl/full-time anti-social security campaigner/part-time Newsnight political editor Allegra Stratton on her program last night argued that all the cuts have to be defended by labour from now on and they need to find a political method to sell even more as part of their approach to the next general election, and they have to do this because the cuts are a) working and b) massively popular.

That's total shit on any level -- even as a way of arguing a neo-Thatcherite/neo-Blairite point, it hits the fail button on any kind of persuasiveness..

When she was at the Guardian, she was fuckin crap then as well, but better (well a bit) at covering her ultraTory tracks ...
 
Privately educated obxbridge girl/full-time anti-social security campaigner/part-time Newsnight political editor Allegra Stratton on her program last night argued that all the cuts have to be defended by labour from now on and they need to find a political method to sell even more as part of their approach to the next general election, and they have to do this because the cuts are a) working and b) massively popular.



saw that last night, she even prefaced the above comment b) with 'and a lot of our viewers won't like this but,'...massively popular /resonate with many etc
 
Speaking of Stratton, the Daily Heil refers to her as "Leftist" but then, anyone who isn't a member of the YBF is "Leftist" to them. But the Heil says it's because she wrote a biography of the Miliband brothers. Yeah, that nails her colours to the mast. :facepalm:
Has the BBC created a conflict of interest clash by appointing the Leftist Allegra Stratton as Newsnight’s new Political Editor? The Guardian political correspondent was deemed more appealing than BBC veteran John Pienaar for the post. Stratton has signed a book deal with Simon & Schuster for a biography of the Miliband brothers, which she is co-writing with former Labour spin doctor Lance Price.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2066907/Warning-shot-Cameron-lobby-ban.html
 
They certainly did their bit for the riot response, where the seriousness with which they take their 'responsibilities' was often on full display.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19111720


England riots one year on: Culprits jailed for 1,800 years

In an interview with BBC London to mark a year since the riots, the Crown Prosecution Service's chief prosecutor Alison Saunders backed the swift and tough justice meted out to culprits.
She said: "One thing we also learned in the disorder is that if we can get people in court fast and get them sentenced it acts as a deterrent - it made people think twice.
"I do think the criminal justice response was particularly important. People could see there were consequences.
"They could see the criminal justice system responding and that sent a really strong message from society that this was unacceptable."

The beeb certainly did more than their fair share of amplifying that message.
 
Their scientific 'analysis' leaves much to be desired these days if this is anything to go by:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19144464


The day I watched Curiosity being built in a clean room at Nasa's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena last year, the rover's six wheels were lying on one work bench while the chassis stood on another and it was hard to believe the white-suited engineers could make sense of the maze of tubes and cabling.
But what they've created now stands on the red soil of Mars - and it's in one piece. In the hallway of a JPL building we were shown a full-size replica. Walking around it made me realise something difficult to grasp from the pictures and video: this is a beast of a machine, a kind of cosmic Humvee with instruments instead of weapons.
 
Paul Moss ‏@BBCPaulMoss said:
Just arrived #Chile for mass protest expected Wednesday. Economists insist inequality reducing - not fast enough for opposition apparently.
I can smell his report already from here. Unless he's being a bit tongue in cheek about bullshitting economists.
 
Something strange in the comments, the posters criticising the OG's and pointing out the riots could happen again, that conditions haven't changed, are being described by a fair few others as 'rightwingers'!
 
'My son's been working as an olympic steward for nearly a month now and still hasn't been paid. Lord knows how he would survive if he wasn't living with us. Benefits stopped the moment the work started.'

not all enjoying it then...
 
The BBC are reporting on the balance of payments issue, all the 'experts' seem to be from the right such as Ruth Porter of the IEA, positing 'solutions', like more cuts, deregulation, tax cuts, etc,
 
John Humphries - anti union shit head - He was interviewing Brendan Barber - basically couldn't stop himself uttering anti-union cliches - Barber was pretty good tbf

and I found myself agreeing with the Tories :confused: the BBC is biased - it's anti-union
 
John Humphries - anti union shit head - He was interviewing Brendan Barber - basically couldn't stop himself uttering anti-union cliches - Barber was pretty good tbf

and I found myself agreeing with the Tories :confused: the BBC is biased - it's anti-union


I heard that, nothing wrong with robust interviewing, Paxo does that, this was just smearing..
 
Just looking at the headlines and accompanying pieces on the anti-globalisation strike in India and of course the BBC manages a full-on market apologia at every turn, including a special from their Dehli correspondent making it crystal clear, titled "Why good economics can make for bad politics" i.e. we don't even remember political economy any more.
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I don't watch a lot of TV so perhaps my memory is being selective, but is there a current of sexism at the BBC? For example, there was great emphasis on the two recently murdered police officers being women, and a recent article about the expansion of domestic abuse legislation relegated the fact that a significant proportion of cases were of men suffering domestic abuse to one or two lines in a sidebar on the website.
 
I don't watch a lot of TV so perhaps my memory is being selective, but is there a current of sexism at the BBC? For example, there was great emphasis on the two recently murdered police officers being women, and a recent article about the expansion of domestic abuse legislation relegated the fact that a significant proportion of cases were of men suffering domestic abuse to one or two lines in a sidebar on the website.

I think you're right.

They also pulled the female heart strings on the shootings in France by going to the family's home town and interviewing the local mums to get an emotional response.

Now I dislike kids at the best of times, I have very little time for them but even I was brought to tears by the story of the young child hiding motionless and afraid to move for more than 8 hours. You don't need to be female and a parent to understand that kind of horror.
 
Just given up after 15 mins of trying to watch Vikings. Painful to watch. It was all about feelings this, and evocative that. There were fancy camera angles and mood setting music.

FOR FUCKS SAKE I WANT HISTORY. You can have style and substance but Christ, there has to be some balance. You can't just bury the substance under a massive pile of fluff.

In fact for that matter why does everything have to personality led and gimmicky?
 
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