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why the bbc is going down the pan

All sorts of people were making all sorts of geo-political predictions in that period - the famous Russia/US as superpowers one of de Tocqueville in 1831 for example. The key thing about WW1 was the debt it forced onto the old powers which then gave US based capital an entry into european investment and markets whilst closing off the German dream of catching up with the colonial powers and the resources and markets these brought. The argument goes that if Germany had won the US would not have had either of these openings and would have been closed out of the world market and reliant on their vast internal market, but one easily matched by british-german empires internal markets.
That makes sense, as it's got to be linked to concrete shifts and cycles of capital rather than being tectonic. Maybe the longer shift was there too but whether welcomed due to debt circumstances or resisted is obv in large part down to WWI.
 
That's the sort of thing one of your Kiwi meathead rugger-buggers would say, is it not?

i know i've encountered you on a couple of threads, usually referring to your deep knowledge of my country. but in the interests of equality - can I ask where you hail from?
 
i know i've encountered you on a couple of threads, usually referring to your deep knowledge of my country. but in the interests of equality - can I ask where you hail from?

I come from . . . let's just say a lot of places.
 
The adverts on the BBC are only for their programmes and not the obnoxious flashy LOUD ones like on the other channels. The BBC is worth the license fee for that alone. Also Radio 4.
 
The adverts on the BBC are only for their programmes and not the obnoxious flashy LOUD ones like on the other channels. The BBC is worth the license fee for that alone. Also Radio 4.
I'm not sure how you figured that out.. but it's true that people defend the BBC by saying in America there's an ad break every twenty seconds. We don't have that on our commercial channels, there's regulations on how often ad breaks happen. Also the BBC advertise themselves constantly with trailers for programmes so there almost may as well be other adverts as well.

Plus I'm forced to pay for it whether I like it or not, which I think gives me some rights to have an opinion about it (as gabi).
 
I'm not sure how you figured that out.. but it's true that people defend the BBC by saying in America there's an ad break every twenty seconds. We don't have that on our commercial channels, there's regulations on how often ad breaks happen. Also the BBC advertise themselves constantly with trailers for programmes so there almost may as well be other adverts as well.

Plus I'm forced to pay for it whether I like it or not, which I think gives me some rights to have an opinion about it (as gabi).
I don't think the adverts on the BBC are even remotely comparable to those on the other sides. The BBC ones boil down to 'we made this, you should watch it'. The others are much more manipulative and boil down to 'You're inadequate and unattractive, but if you give us your money we can fix that! People will have sex with you!' Saying that there may as well be other adverts misses this fundamental difference. Bear in mind also that the BBC will play through things uninterrupted. The adverts are *between* programmes, not *during*

I wasn't talking about America but seeing as you brought it up, they are even worse. They even advertise prescription medication ffs! Prescription medication! I'm sorry, but that's insane.

As for having an opinion on it.. Yes that is your right, I quickly scanned this thread and can't figure out what yours is though. Forgive me therefore if I'm missing your point in this reply
 
I hate to point this out as you've probably already sent that email, but you've put WW3 in the 5th paragraph :D
arse.


oddly enough, I've not had a reply yet. TBH I'd forgotten I'd even written that last night, it'd explain why I was so knackered today though.

still, someone was definitely wrong on the internet in that article, and I'm glad for once that I decided to tell him that directly even if it did mean a late night.
 
I don't think the adverts on the BBC are even remotely comparable to those on the other sides. The BBC ones boil down to 'we made this, you should watch it'. The others are much more manipulative and boil down to 'You're inadequate and unattractive, but if you give us your money we can fix that! People will have sex with you!' Saying that there may as well be other adverts misses this fundamental difference. Bear in mind also that the BBC will play through things uninterrupted. The adverts are *between* programmes, not *during*

I wasn't talking about America but seeing as you brought it up, they are even worse. They even advertise prescription medication ffs! Prescription medication! I'm sorry, but that's insane.

As for having an opinion on it.. Yes that is your right, I quickly scanned this thread and can't figure out what yours is though. Forgive me therefore if I'm missing your point in this reply
I do see your point about sky and itv but all advertiser are guilty of psychological pressure
 
someone suggested a new thread on this and i thought i'd start one, post your examples of bbc bullshit here ...

If it's going down the tubes, that's too bad. I've been watching a lot of BBC produced tv shows, and enjoying them immensely.

The one exception is this Robin Hood series I've been watching. I guess there's solace in knowing that people who usually get things so right, can get something so spectacularly wrong on occasion. Proves they're human.:)
 
It just gets worse.

Former Gardeners' World host Titchmarsh presented a documentary on the Queen as part of ITV1's Diamond Jubilee programming.
Asked what makes him blush, the 63-year-old told the Radio Times: "I haven't blushed for a long time. Sometimes I get angry.
"I got very angry during the Diamond Jubilee coverage when the Queen was wrongly called 'Her Royal Highness' and presenters were vague on facts.

"One said the Queen has outlasted 12 prime ministers and 'at least' six American presidents. We all make mistakes but when somebody obviously hasn't done their homework, that gets me a bit rattled."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/10295732
 
Objectively, over all, regardless of some fuck ups and doing some stuff you don't like, can anyone offer me a more decent objctive news channel.
One that will try more unusual things drama/programming wise that doesn't wholey rely on advertisers backing something to get it on air?

That is a genuine question. Not asking you to say anything for or against the BBC as such.

I don't even have a tv.
We do use the iPlayer alot though and the BBC news website for easy to read when you first wake up stuff.
 
Also the BBC advertise themselves constantly with trailers for programmes so there almost may as well be other adverts as well.
Is one way to look at it.

Fwiw, I watch most of the BBC content I do because I'm alerted to it by trailers - new drama/series being a prime example and which is an obv. target for the BBC as that type of programming comes and goes regularly. I don't know how else I'd be made aware of new drama programming. It's not on going with a regular slot.

On the other hand, the idents drive me batshit.
 
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