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why the bbc is going down the pan

Indeed ...
It wasn't immigration that the country needed to be discussing in the 1990s and 2000s so much as why the financial institutions were being given free rein to destroy the economy with so little comeback and why governments have been so reluctant to collect taxes from the largest corporations and the wealthiest individuals. All of which Robinson ignored. As do the politicians. Which is why a genuine debate about immigration is beyond both of them.
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I note that Jonathan Portes who as a co-author of the report in the early 2000's on which N/L based its decision to open the borders with no restrictions to the accession countries still argues that immigration is a net benefit to the Uk and while there had been 'casualties', it was necessary for the U.K economically and to progress. He also likened it to the end of the coal mines: that although there had been some sad consequences for mining communities, the closures and subsequent importation of coal were ultimately for the good of the nation, nice liberal, eh?
 
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I note that Jonathan Portes who as a co-author of the report in the early 2000's on which N/L based its decision to open the borders with no restrictions to the accession countries still argues that immigration is a net benefit to the Uk and while there had been 'casualties, it was necessary, he also likened it to the end of the coal mines:, that although there had been some sad consequences for mining communities, the closures and importation of coal were ultimately for the good of the nation, nice liberal, eh?

Right-wing Labourites like saying shit like that because it lets them allude that people who are against neoliberalism are racists
 
Difference between rank (fusilier - old designation for "rifleman" that the fusilier regts kept for tradition's sake), and designation (drummer). Expecting the meeja to know this stuff, when most of them haven't got a clue about the military, is a bit like expecting them to be self-aware enough to realise what a bunch of cunts they are!


This the meejea whores were any good at their job they would question what the government feeds them rather than just regurgitating and parroting it as the government wants them see everything from The Falklands through The Miners strike to Iraq WMD's and war, the bankster bailout to todays slash 'n' burn job on services and benefits and everything in-between
 
Local BBC is the worst. Radio Bristol for instance panders to such a narrow minded curtain twitching demographic that i've rung up and complained during their stupid morning phone before. It's hosted by a guy called John Darvall who has more than a touch of the Partridge about him, particularly when he's joined by a female presenter/pundit/anchor.

They pander to simple minded attitudes regarding benefits. In one discussion with someone called 'Pam' who claimed her son in law - the fater of her grandkids and a sick benefit claimant of some kind - wasn't too sick to work, after John asked her "if you could look at him, could he work?"

They question nothing. They spout 'facts' at so superficial a level it becomes propaganda and when that point is put to them, they shurg it off as if it were akin to conspiracy thinking. 'The BBC isn't biased, what nonsense!'

But when they report on the supposed falling unemployment, they never explain what the figures mean. Instead local business figures and politicians come on to champion the accepted line: austerity is working, growth is happening, jobs are happening. Just this morning they were talking up the latest so called drop in unemployment as the second biggest drop since records began. This was followed by mentioning Dyson are taking 3000 people on. But no mention of what these jobs are like or what that supposed fall in unemployment means.
 
BBC local radio here used to be very good, but it is changing, more tabloid, more like you describe, the licence fee is increasingly looking contested, by me, anyway
 
There's just no hint of even the possibility of a different point of view. No room to discuss anything. No question that 'Pam's' son in law - the fucking father of her grandkids - might have genuine health issues. If he's fit enough to breed... It's forever like this. Right across the BBC network. When Nicky Campbell gives ALec Shelbrooke an hour to discuss, freely, his welfare cashcard bullshit, not ONCE is he asked any question that deals with even the merest practicality of the idea. Instead the producer feeds in only people tha tsupport this nonsense, culminating in a salivating James fucking Delingpole. It is a lost cause.
 
"Young adults living at home" (i.e. sharing with parents)

wtf does "living at home" mean? I live at home. If I lived with my parents I would be living in my "parents home"
Who fucking cares where people live? As long as they have somewhere, safe and secure. Who gives a shit, and who are these people that agree to be filmed like this?

There's that bizarre and grotesque 'Sun Sea And Suspiciuos Parents' nonsense which I am convinced - I pray- is fake. These people agree to go on a holiday trailed by BBC wankers and act surprised when their parents turn up to tell them they drink too much? Give me a break.

And what a world these fucking preening cunts live in. Objectionable gap year permatan shallow creatures bragging about shagging around and puking into their own piss in some gutter. I hate society!
 
Tbf, I had a theory like that too. Everyone I knew grew up very thin, all our houses were only heated in one room, and we were permanently cold. When I moved into a centrally heated place 12 years ago, I began to put on weight without any other change in lifestyle. I put it down to the body just not having to use calories to keep warm anymore.

But would agree that the BBC is a fucking great big pile of arse wipe besides ;)
 
Who fucking cares where people live? As long as they have somewhere, safe and secure. Who gives a shit, and who are these people that agree to be filmed like this?

There's that bizarre and grotesque 'Sun Sea And Suspiciuos Parents' nonsense which I am convinced - I pray- is fake. These people agree to go on a holiday trailed by BBC wankers and act surprised when their parents turn up to tell them they drink too much? Give me a break.

And what a world these fucking preening cunts live in. Objectionable gap year permatan shallow creatures bragging about shagging around and puking into their own piss in some gutter. I hate society!
Ofcourse programs like that are fake, like the fucking lockup auction shows, and lizard lick bullshit stuff. The name doccusoup should be a bit of a clue to how real it is.

Nearly started a "why is forbes going down the pan" thread earlier. They've been quoting Srocha Faal articles about tall white aliens :D :rolleyes: :facepalm:
 
Is it me or does anyone else get irritated when the news come on and say 'President Obama has today....' when for any other country they would say whose president they're talking about eg. 'French president Francois Holland has today...'

I know everyone knows who Obama is but when they say 'President Obama' instead of 'US President Barack Obama' there's a kind of implication that he's our president. Which he aint. Obvs.
 
Is it me or does anyone else get irritated when the news come on and say 'President Obama has today....' when for any other country they would say whose president they're talking about eg. 'French president Francois Holland has today...'

I know everyone knows who Obama is but when they say 'President Obama' instead of 'US President Barack Obama' there's a kind of implication that he's our president. Which he aint. Obvs.

Have you forgotten that you live on Airstrip One citizen?
 
1.9% growth last year (botched figures no doubt) and the highest in 7 years (what fucking hell those 7 years must have been) and BBC news is having a massive wankathon like it's the second coming or something.

You can just smell the pre-election engineering jism from miles way.
 
Yesterday morning the Centre for Social justice on 5Live asserted that, adorning the walls of prisons in Poland, there are posters saying çome to Margate'. Nicky fucking Campbell then responds by saying "that's an ineresting fact", instead of (correctly) asking for evidence for such a stupid claim. The CSJ mook also reinforced the idea that only benefit claimants are income dependent (we all are, unless we've inherited our wealth or married the landowning progeny of an aristocrat and ge a fat land subsidy to boot). I complained, for all the good it did. What else can I do?
 
Who fucking cares where people live? As long as they have somewhere, safe and secure. Who gives a shit, and who are these people that agree to be filmed like this?

There's that bizarre and grotesque 'Sun Sea And Suspiciuos Parents' nonsense which I am convinced - I pray- is fake. These people agree to go on a holiday trailed by BBC wankers and act surprised when their parents turn up to tell them they drink too much? Give me a break.

And what a world these fucking preening cunts live in. Objectionable gap year permatan shallow creatures bragging about shagging around and puking into their own piss in some gutter. I hate society!
My daughter was offered a free holiday as a part of a group of girls going on one of these bbc shows, she had far too much sense and self respect to agree, but the promise of free holiday and spending money is attractive to young people not always alive to the consequences of their actions.
 
My daughter was offered a free holiday as a part of a group of girls going on one of these bbc shows, she had far too much sense and self respect to agree, but the promise of free holiday and spending money is attractive to young people not always alive to the consequences of their actions.
I bet the production company ply the kids with drinks and pay for them to go to all the skankiest clubs encouraging them to run around with their bits out.

Maybe i should just get my wytchfynder general's hat on, but i find it all a bit grubby.
 
There was a brilliant one on Radio 4's PM a couple of nights ago - the PPI mis-selling scandal was alright because the amounts being repaid are giving families windfalls and that may be enough to improve GDP.

Yay for those banking hucksters! It all turned out right in the end, no need to focus on the dodgy scam run on the British public.
 
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