Why do BMW and Audi owners often seem to drive like idiots?

[two sheds]

Knowing fuck all about cars doesn't seem to have kept the po-faced car haters from commenting on a thread whose premise is that people who for whatever reason drive a BMW or Audi seem to drive like idiots. When the study quoted in the OP explicitly states that premise to be false.

When you say "Knowing fuck all about cars" do you mean they don't know the 0-60 acceleration time, or the differential ratios or the top speeds of the different cars? Because you're right I don't know things like that for any cars.

I do know they kill a lot of people and push out a fair amount of pollution at child-head height when they travel through towns and cities.

 

[hash tag]

Can't believe some of the minutiae people seem to care about tbh

When I commuted on an MTB, I ran a 53 on the front and a 9 on the back if I remember correctly...because size matters.

This is something I can't get my head around. Why do some cyclists go out and spend a fortune on the lightest carbon bike, and retrofit the lightest of everything they can throw money at. Then they tell you they're cycling to keep fit...
GTFO! If they were doing it to keep fit, they'd be riding the heaviest piece of shit they could find, Riding something that weighs less than a good turd isn't going to keep them anywhere near as fit as riding around on an old butcher bike.

Less is more

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

When you say "Knowing fuck all about cars" do you mean they don't know the 0-60 acceleration time, or the differential ratios or the top speeds of the different cars? Because you're right I don't know things like that for any cars.

The feel of the paintwork on a quality-built motor-vehicle, the purr of a V8, the whirr of turbos spooling up, the push back in to the seat, the tightness around a chicane style corner. Knowing cars is like making love to a beautiful woman, etc.

I do know they kill a lot of people

Yeah, and so do many illnesses, but it's not cancer that saves the day when one is running late for an urgent meeting due to the trains going to pot, yet again...

 

[two sheds]

The feel of the paintwork on a quality-built motor-vehicle, the purr of a V8, the whirr of turbos spooling up, the push back in to the seat, the tightness around a chicane style corner. Knowing cars is like making love to a beautiful woman, etc.



Yeah, and so do many illnesses, but it's not cancer that saves the day when one is running late for an urgent meeting due to the trains going to pot, yet again...

Indeed - useful to get from A to B because public transport is shit, that's the limit of their usefulness though.

You missed out the bit about pushing out a fair amount of pollution at child-head height when they travel through towns and cities though (particularly talking about kids in pushchairs there). A bit like smoking used to be viewed really, people smoked in restaurants because they could - now seen as wtf.

 

[Proper Tidy]

I don't really know what V8 and all that means. I know it's the number of cylinders but no idea why that's important. More concerned with how big the glove box and boot are.

 

[Proper Tidy]

In fact I don't know what a cylinder is

 

[8ball]

More concerned with how big the glove box and boot are.

The auto press is shamefully neglectful of the importance of glove box capacity.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

You missed out the bit about pushing out a fair amount of pollution at child-head height when they travel through towns and cities though (particularly talking about kids in pushchairs there). A bit like smoking used to be viewed really, people smoked in restaurants because they could - now seen as wtf.

Not really relevant. Once the perma-frost gives way in a couple of years those same kids will be grateful for their shortened life expectancy.

 

[Proper Tidy]

The auto press is shamefully neglectful of the importance of glove box capacity.

It's important. My new (to me) car has an annoyingly small glove box and it irritates me. Big boot though

 

[hash tag]

The feel of the paintwork on a quality-built motor-vehicle, the purr of a V8, the whirr of turbos spooling up, the push back in to the seat, the tightness around a chicane style corner. Knowing cars is like making love to a beautiful woman, etc.

Funnily enough, Mrs T often tells me to slow down

 

[Proper Tidy]

If I'm being honest my experience of making love to beautiful women is fairly limited too

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Funnily enough, Mrs T often tells me to slow down

Something, something Alfa, big-end gone.

 

[two sheds]

My dad's right hand used to hover over the hand brake with his left hand on the door handle when he was teaching me to drive.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

My dad's right hand used to hover over the hand brake with his left hand on the door handle when he was teaching me to drive.

If he was demonstrating the basics of driving it's small wonder you're not very good at it...

 

[two sheds]

Well I thought he should have demonstrated more confidence in me at the time.

And yes I decided over 20 years ago I was the sort of driver best kept off the roads

 

[8ball]

And yes I decided over 20 years ago I was the sort of driver best kept off the roads

Good bit of self-awareness, I have a couple of mates who have done the same.
I'm not the best driver around but no accidents in nearly 30 years of driving.

Quite a few accidents happening immediately behind me, though, for some reason.

 

[Calamity1971]

My dad's right hand used to hover over the hand brake with his left hand on the door handle when he was teaching me to drive.

My passenger side has imaginary brakes. Quite a few passengers have tried to use them.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Good bit of self-awareness, I have a couple of mates who have done the same.
I'm not the best driver around but no accidents in nearly 30 years of driving.

Quite a few accidents happening immediately behind me, though, for some reason.

Reminds me of those tossers who like to lead a parade of cars wherever they go, do they never wonder why the road in front is always clear of traffic?

 

[Saul Goodman]

You claimed earlier to be in a position to help people "find the correct bike for their exercise regimen."

So let me ask again: apart fro calling all cyclists 'knobheads,' how many types of bikes have you ridden? How often do you go cycling? Do you commute on a bike to work every day?> Have you been touring recently? Racing? Part of a bike club? Have you ever ridden a carbon framed bike? How about a folding bike?

You see, there's people here who know a lot about bikes, and you just seem to be trying to bluff your way along. But please answer my questions so we call all ascertain your level of expertise in bikes.

Ok, I'll try to address this.

how many types of bikes have you ridden?

I dunno, how many are there? I was going to say "All of them", but that would be wrong, as I've never ridden one of those where the wheel turns the opposite direction to the bars, nor have I ridden a penny farthing or a boneshaker, so I'll go with 'Most'

Do you commute on a bike to work every day?

No. That would be silly, as I work from home.

Have you been touring recently?

Not on a bicycle.

Racing?

Not on a bicycle.

Part of a bike club?

Not a bicycle club.

Have you ever ridden a carbon framed bike?

Yes, I've owned one. I no longer own it, and I can't even remember the make/model, but it was quite expensive. I should have a picture of it somewhere. I'll have a look later.

How about a folding bike?

That would be the one behind the Vespa.

These are the 2 bikes I can get to in the garage. The other is buried.

But rest assured, I will be sure to look for a picture of the carbon bike

 

[editor]

Knowing fuck all about cars doesn't seem to have kept the po-faced car haters from commenting on a thread whose premise is that people who for whatever reason drive a BMW or Audi seem to drive like idiots. When the study quoted in the OP explicitly states that premise to be false.

Anyone taking anything posted on medicalxpress.com seriously needs their noggin checked.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Anyone taking anything posted on medicalxpress.com seriously needs their noggin checked.

It's generated 10 pages of 'discussion' on your fucking boards, so far.

 

[8ball]

Reminds me of those tossers who like to lead a parade of cars wherever they go, do they never wonder why the road in front is always clear of traffic?

According to the Highway Code, this is a faux pas unless you are riding a bicycle.

 

[editor]

Ok, I'll try to address this.


I dunno, how many are there? I was going to say "All of them", but that would be wrong, as I've never ridden one of those where the wheel turns the opposite direction to the bars, nor have I ridden a penny farthing or a boneshaker, so I'll go with 'Most'


No. That would be silly, as I work from home.


Not on a bicycle.


Not on a bicycle.


Not a bicycle club.


Yes, I've owned one. I no longer own it, and I can't even remember the make/model, but it was quite expensive. I should have a picture of it somewhere. I'll have a look later.


That would be the one behind the Vespa.

These are the 2 bikes I can get to in the garage. The other is buried.

But rest assured, I will be sure to look for a picture of the carbon bike

So you're a self confessed 'knobhead' then? Glad you've cleared that up.

 

[editor]

It's generated 10 pages of 'discussion' on your fucking boards, so far.

I didn't realise we had fucking boards. They sound great.

 

[8ball]

I didn't realise we had fucking boards. They sound great.

This is that 'hidden forum' business again, isn't it?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I didn't realise we had fucking boards. They sound great.

Anker.

 

[editor]

This is that 'hidden forum' business again, isn't it?

100 quid in used fivers and access is yours, squire.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Reminds me of those tossers who like to lead a parade of cars wherever they go, do they never wonder why the road in front is always clear of traffic?

My brother & SiL has a caravan, he got that as a birthday card.

 

[Saul Goodman]

So you're a self confessed 'knobhead' then? Glad you've cleared that up.

No. I used to be.
Nice body-swerve, though

 

[Baronage-Phase]

Was driving along minding my own business the other morning. A blue BMW decided to overtake me by popping into the bus laneand pushing in front of me.

On the way home, same day, a different BMW thought it would be ok to barge me on a roundabout. I was on the roundabout so I had right of way. Said BMW shot out at my left and into my lane causing me to slam on the brakes to avoid them.