Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
Don't you mean Labour arselickers?
Who would like to abolish the BBC Licence fee?
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TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
Or alternatively was HBO in name only?
Azrael
circling Airstrip One
Perhaps, although give that it showed no sign of being written by committe, its characters had the attitudes of two centuries ago, and its hero was a Tory so high she'd have made Roger Scruton dizzy, I'd wager the former.
TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
Perhaps, although give that it showed no sign of being written by committe, its characters had the attitudes of two centuries ago, and its hero was a Tory so high she'd have made Roger Scruton dizzy, I'd wager the former.
That's not being fair to Sally Wainwright, frankly.
Azrael
circling Airstrip One
Just the opposite, she created an outstanding drama, which I hope bags many more series!
DexterTCN
Troy and Abed in the morning
Anyone who wants a service should pay for it. The bbc is not a public service. The license fee covers all other 'land based' channels as well, the license fee is to watch any tv remember. Or record anything then watch it later.
To be in a place where the unemployed, disabled, OAPS and others are forced to pay for a broadcast service on risk of imprisonment is just not on.
A ring-fenced tax? Remember your SSP and OAP? They were ring-fenced. All you'e done with turning to tax-based tv is overtly put them under government control and pay them directly for the privilege.
To be in a place where the unemployed, disabled, OAPS and others are forced to pay for a broadcast service on risk of imprisonment is just not on.
A ring-fenced tax? Remember your SSP and OAP? They were ring-fenced. All you'e done with turning to tax-based tv is overtly put them under government control and pay them directly for the privilege.
D'wards
IT'S YOUR DECISION DANIEL
I watch a lot of stuff on iplayer which works like a dream.
Adverts really fuck with your watching stuff on itv hub or 4od- especially if you have got distracted and want to rewind or fell asleep and want to fast forward back to where you fell asleep from the start. You can't pinpoint it cos you have to sit through 4 mins of fucking adverts when you stop fast forwarding
Adverts really fuck with your watching stuff on itv hub or 4od- especially if you have got distracted and want to rewind or fell asleep and want to fast forward back to where you fell asleep from the start. You can't pinpoint it cos you have to sit through 4 mins of fucking adverts when you stop fast forwarding
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Not a great fan of much of what the BBC does but I don't think the tories are suggesting getting rid of the licence fee to be altruistick
Azrael
circling Airstrip One
True. They're also free to use: for those who really hate ads, you can pay to remove 'em from All4 for less than 50 quid a year, under a third of the current license fee. The BBC could either offer a similar service, or go subscription only. Even if it followed Netflix & charged £8.99 a month to watch in HD (itself steep for a streaming service), it'd be a substantial saving on the license, especially as many would cancel for several months of the year.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
They do this regularly to try to conceal the current state of play. Maggie did it just as much. They have a shocking cheek to say the BBC is biased against them after the past election, but it's an important point of denying the actual bias - the usual clowns will say "oh well if both sides complain it must be doing a good job" even if some have been slating it for the last six months. They have no intention of actually stopping the licence fee.
Azrael
circling Airstrip One
Of course not, although given the help that BBC News gave them in getting elected, their privatization dogma could prove self-defeating in the extreme.
mx wcfc
Well-Known Member
Yes, that is odd. My view is that the tories always wanted to appease the daily mail reading anti licence fee old ladies, used that as a threat in he election, and having got away with it aere now following through.And, yet it's a Tory government threatening their future for being anti-Tory.
if the beeb is in danger, so are we all.
Azrael
circling Airstrip One
Perhaps: although at the least, given the amount of time in the mags it takes up, they may well be serious about decriminalizing it. Or perhaps they are serious this time, especially with the tech changes. As more and more people stop watching on-air, and TVs go the way of landlines, saving the license fee will become viable for many. Either the government charges a license to have an internet connection, or a new funding structure's gonna be needed.
mauvais
on reddit or something
This. I worked on radio, now I work on sport. None of it has anything to do with politics. Both of these things serve millions of people for astonishingly low relative costs, and they themselves are only part of it. It's all under increasing threat not because of some deserved payback on current affairs bias, but because a right wing government hates it.
I can’t honestly think of any good BBC TV programmes from the last year or so. I regularly check iPlayer in hope but rarely find anything I even want to try and those I do I end up disappointed with. Sad but there it is. I do listen regularly to R4 but that’s mostly pretty poor too, just convenient and often the only game in town if you don’t want to listen to music radio.
None of that would bother me, though, if I thought the BBC were properly impartial politically and were partial when it came to fact. But they are the wrong way round. They weren’t even trying to hide their anti-Corbyn bias in the last election. But when it comes to things like climate change, they’ll insist on balancing out scientists with cranks until long past the point that even mentalists have accepted the obvious truth.
None of that would bother me, though, if I thought the BBC were properly impartial politically and were partial when it came to fact. But they are the wrong way round. They weren’t even trying to hide their anti-Corbyn bias in the last election. But when it comes to things like climate change, they’ll insist on balancing out scientists with cranks until long past the point that even mentalists have accepted the obvious truth.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Indeed, comparing a hundred and fifty quid licence to a hundred quid Netflix sub ignores the vast difference in how much content the beeb creates or invests in compared to what’s effectively a middle industry who fucks over producers of content and subscribers.
What I’d like is a single fee sub service but that’s not on offer, instead we’re getting thousands of the fuckers so it’s time to get a vpn.
mauvais
on reddit or something
Said this before but not only that, it ignores that current Netflix is built on a massive amount of debt with an increasing lack of an apparent easy way out.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Modern businesses don't appear to exist to make money, things like twitter and Netflix operate by some nebulous money sink logic.
mauvais
on reddit or something
Indeed, market cap or something. It appears to be indefinitely sustainable so I've given up predicting its demise but surely the bell will toll for all of them eventually.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I watch BBC on a Friday night, (the only time that I do watch TV these days) there is Have I got news for you, Would I lie to you, sometimes Mock the Week, QI, and Graham Norton and I find they amuse me at the end of the week.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
These things were okay 10, 20, 25 years ago but they’re so very very stale now.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I am perhaps being dim, but.... Netflix doesn’t make money??!
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
It doesn't because it's spending so much on new content.
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How does the streaming leader turn hits like "Bird Box" into actual profits?
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mauvais
on reddit or something
There are lots of different accounting measures but "free cash flow" means operating cash in minus capital expenses. Theirs was minus $3.5bn last year. So no.
mauvais
on reddit or something
There are lots of issues with this plan, economic exposure aside. The back catalogue is valuable but has a declining value, people foremost want new, and you likely continue paying for rights.It doesn't because it's spending so much on new content.
How Does Netflix Make Money? | The Motley Fool
How does the streaming leader turn hits like "Bird Box" into actual profits?
More importantly the market is fragmenting with new streaming entrants and people have to decide which of the services they want to continue to pay for. It's a big problem for both providers and consumers but it still continues to happen. Exclusives will further this fragmentation and eventually either a lot of the providers will go bust or we'll probably all be back to pirating. Netflix are more protected from this than some of the upstarts but they're not immune and it's a barrier to growth or the success of this 'corner the market' strategy.
There's also an unknown pressure from actual content creators. It's clearer in music. Eventually musicians and publishers will probably rebel against giving their content to Spotify etc for nothing, therefore the current situation is of its time. I don't understand the TV/film publishing landscape but I wouldn't be surprised if the journey isn't over yet and there's some problems that hatch out of the current model.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Fair enough. My ignorance there. Seems so many people have it, seems v. well priced for what you get, seems they have lots of wonga to chuck at their own projects, not seen much about an above-minimal level of corporate evil, so I kinda put 2 and 2 together and made 5.
mauvais
on reddit or something
They take in loads of money, about $5bn in subs, but their shows cost loads of money. For example one or maybe two series of The Crown apparently cost £100m, for which the BBC would have to sack a tenth of its staff.Fair enough. My ignorance there. Seems so many people have it, seems v. well priced for what you get, seems they have lots of wonga to chuck at their own projects, not seen much about an above-minimal level of corporate evil, so I kinda put 2 and 2 together and made 5.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
I think my ideas about how businesses work are probably a bit old-fashioned. My goal would probably be to get solvent well before taking on the world. I’d be freaked out by the idea of having a bit of a bump and not being able to pay my people.
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