White civil rights leader has pretended to be black for years

[moon]

My dad looks white but is actually black, has always identified as black and comes from a black family, just he was born white with black features..
Its interesting as he probably hasn't suffered racism to the same extent as the rest of his family until he speaks in his broad Caribbean accent and people say things like 'you're not really white are you...'

 

[MochaSoul]

easy but false comparisons

Perniciously dangerous too

 

[equationgirl]

It's also already a term, that means something quite different, used in adoption.

Meaning 'adoption across races', I assume, rather than this version 'to change race'?

 

[8ball]

My dad looks white but is actually black, has always identified as black and comes from a black family, just he was born white with black features..
Its interesting as he probably hasn't suffered racism to the same extent as the rest of his family until he speaks in his broad Caribbean accent and people say things like 'you're not really white are you...'

Just a random white black person (hey, it must happen or where did white people come from?) or a case of racial mixing?

 

[8ball]

Meaning 'adoption across races', I assume, rather than this version 'to change race'?

Yep.

 

[Belushi]

Meaning 'adoption across races', I assume, rather than this version 'to change race'?

Yes (though we use the term interracial adoption as often in the UK) a massive on-going issue in adoption as you can imagine.

 

[equationgirl]

Perniciously dangerous too

I think that's why I find this term so uncomfortable, because of how dangerous it is and how much damage this could do.

 

[Lurdan]

It's generated some entertainingly sardonic humour :

 

[MochaSoul]

It's generated some entertainingly sardonic humour :

Ah that one is quite, quite brilliant!!

 

[moon]

Just a random white black person (hey, it must happen or where did white people come from?) or a case of racial mixing?

lol.. mixing...

 

[equationgirl]

This is a really informative thread, one of urban's best. Lots of decent discussion

 

[trashpony]

Marsha Hunt's autobiography is really interesting on the whole topic of 'passing' (and this conversation has now gone full circle because I think Rutita1 talked about it in about the 3rd post)

 

[8ball]

lol.. mixing...

Is that a bad term these days?

 

[moon]

no, was laughing at your referral to the spontaneous occurrence of white people from blacks, there are a few academics who believe that hypothesis to explain Europeans..

 

[MochaSoul]

Remember the crayons? The people who bought them say something... different.

Larry Dolezal tells TMZ it simply never happened -- he never saw his daughter using brown crayons instead of "peach" ... as she claimed she did when she was 5 years old. He says she didn't start "fantasizing" herself as black until her 20s or 30s.

http://www.tmz.com/2015/06/16/rachel-dolezal-father-lying-brown-crayons-white-african-american/

 

[8ball]

no, was laughing at your referral to the spontaneous occurrence of white people from blacks, there are a few academics who believe that hypothesis to explain Europeans..

Ah, ok.

Well, I didn't really think it would be a one generation thing in reality, but you'd expect to see mutations in that direction from time to time and the way you said it sort of made me think of Steve Martin...

 

[8ball]

Remember the crayons? The people who bought them say something... different.

http://www.tmz.com/2015/06/16/rachel-dolezal-father-lying-brown-crayons-white-african-american/

You'd think there must come a time where she works out that piling more lies on top of lies isn't going to suddenly start working again.

 

[moon]

Ah, ok.

Well, I didn't really think it would be a one generation thing in reality, but you'd expect to see mutations in that direction from time to time and the way you said it sort of made me think of Steve Martin...

Steve Martin?
Apparently Nigeria has the highest frequency of Albino births in the world and some have speculated that as Albinos are practically social outcasts in Africa (and worse) over time they hot footed it over to Europe and spawned the white race.. I'm not sure if genetics works that way, but I think it was quite a popular belief amongst race academics at one point...

 

[Orang Utan]

It's also already a term, that means something quite different, used in adoption.

Innit. It's already been covered extensively on this thread, so new commenters on this thread would do well to read it all

 

[Orang Utan]

Ah, ok.

Well, I didn't really think it would be a one generation thing in reality, but you'd expect to see mutations in that direction from time to time and the way you said it sort of made me think of Steve Martin...

You're not remembering the plot of The Jerk very well.

 

[8ball]

Steve Martin?..

Guess you've not seen that one..

Apparently Nigeria has the highest frequency of Albino births in the world and some have speculated that as Albinos are practically social outcasts in Africa (and worse) over time they hot footed it over to Europe and spawned the white race.. I'm not sure if genetics works that way, but I think it was quite a popular belief amongst race academics at one point...

Hadn't heard that one but yeah, it seems more than fanciful.

 

[8ball]

You're not remembering the plot of The Jerk very well.

Obviously there were certain differences...

 

[Orang Utan]

Obviously there were certain differences...

What do you mean?

 

[Idris2002]

I hadn't heard that one, and it sounds like utter bullshit.

 

[8ball]

What do you mean?

I don't want to spoil too much of the plot for moon!

 

[Orang Utan]

I don't want to spoil too much of the plot for moon!

But you're remembering the film wrong as you seem to be suggesting that Navin is the white natural son of a black family.

 

[8ball]

But you're remembering the film wrong as you seem to be suggesting that Navin is the white natural son of a black family.

Oh, for fuck's sake...

 

[Orang Utan]

Oh, for fuck's sake...

You're being confusing. What are you saying here?

 

[killer b]

So has she basically read all the baseless speculation bleeding heart liberals have posted on the internet about her over the past few days and cobbled together a backstory from it? Impressive, almost.

 

[Athos]

Oops.