Which had more influence, Sabbath or Led Zep?

[danny la rouge]

Not which is best? (That’s Sabbath). Or which you prefer. (Again Sabbath, surely). But which do you think had more influence, spawned more genres, had more bands immersed in their sound?

 

[danny la rouge]

Yes, I know. It says “Les” Zeppelin. Fucking autocorrect that is! AI is ruining the world! I’ve tried editing.

 

[maomao]

Sabbath obviously. Direct progenitors of almost all heavy metal music. What comparable lineages did Zep found?

 

[maomao]

Yes, I know. It says “Les” Zeppelin. Fucking autocorrect that is! AI is ruining the world! I’ve tried editing.

That would be a great nickname for a fat bloke called Les.

 

[krtek a houby]

Difficult question.

Both came out of a fascination with the blues, although Sabbath moved further away than Zep did from the source material.

Zeppelin influenced The White Stripes, so am thankful for that. And also The Mission.... Sabbath also had a bit of a goth blues vibe on the first album, so there's that.

 

[Knotted]

Sabbath surely. You could argue Zep were the key influence on Sabbath though.

 

[savoloysam]

Sabbath. They literally invented a new genre.

 

[krtek a houby]

Blue Cheer often get overlooked when it comes to the genesis of metal

 

[Monte]

That would be a great nickname for a fat bloke called Les.

Or an LGBT cover band.

 

[weltweit]

I couldn't name a single Sabbath song, but I could name loads of Led Zepplin songs and recognise them on the radio.

Don't think I know any Sabbath songs.

 

[andysays]

Both of them were so influential that they inspired bands from the 50's

 

[Fozzie Bear]

The grotesque strangulated high pitch vocals of Led Zeppelin appear to have been hugely influential across many metal sub genres.

Which is why I mainly hate metal.

Also “Hammer of the gods” (which I haven’t read) seems anecdotally to have influenced successive generations of dickheads when touring.

 

[tim]

Yes, I know. It says “Les” Zeppelin. Fucking autocorrect that is! AI is ruining the world! I’ve tried editing.

Relax and just let it edit you.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Sabbath (and Motörhead) are probably more influential on punk though?

Sabbath also get you death/black metal I guess. And that reality TV show with Sharon Osbourne.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

according to this site Led Zeppelin have been sampled on 683 tracks:

https://www.whosampled.com/Led-Zeppelin/

“When The Levee Breaks” (their only good song) sampled in 266 songs.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Whereas Black Sabbath have been sampled 254 times.

https://www.whosampled.com/Black-Sabbath/

“Iron Man” sampled in 74 songs.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Robbie Williams 'blasting Black Sabbath' at Jimmy Page, letter claims | London | The Guardian

Neighbours ex-Take That singer and Led Zeppelin guitarist have clashed over pool plan

amp.theguardian.com

 

[danny la rouge]

I couldn't name a single Sabbath song, but I could name loads of Led Zepplin songs and recognise them on the radio.

Don't think I know any Sabbath songs.

Well, you need to put that right!

 

[marshall]

In terms of influence, Sabbath.

But personally found them a bit panto. At least Page actually worshipped the devil

 

[weltweit]

Well, you need to put that right!

It is too late for me, I am a lost cause, plus I have loads of Zepplin albums in storage and no Sabbath, not one.

 

[hitmouse]

There's an urban thread about singing the jingle from an old chocolate biscuit advert to the tune of a Black Sabbath song, but if there's a thread about singing the jingle from an old advert to a Led Zep song, I've not seen it. Game, set and match to Sabbath there.

 

[hash tag]

How do you measure these things?
How many times have other covered their songs

List of cover versions of Black Sabbath songs - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

V.

List of cover versions of Led Zeppelin songs - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Do you measure it by the number of tribute bands? Im guessing there are more zeppelin tribute bands than Sabbath.
Modern rock gods Metallica credit both bands as being an influence.

In their shortish career Zeppelin had mostly the same line up from start to finish.

For balance, let's say Sabbath were partially responsible for a new genre but zeppelin were the bigger band.

 

[danny la rouge]

How do you measure these things?

Arbitrarily, but with absolute certainty.

 

[Bus Honeygun]

I don't like either of them, but Black Sabbath for spawning a whole genre as mentioned by others.

There's a whole other debate about whether the antics of both would past pass muster today. I suspect if both were current now they'd be unmentionable on here.

 

[danny la rouge]

In their shortish career Zeppelin had mostly the same line up from start to finish.

I only count Ozzy-era Sabbath.

 

[danny la rouge]

People saying Sabbath spawned “a” genre are wrong. They spawned many.

 

[hitmouse]

Run the Jewels called their albums Run the Jewels and then Run the Jewels 2-4 respectively, so if they did that as a deliberate Zep thing then that's one point favouring their continued influence. But they could also have done it for some other reason, so it's hard to be sure.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Run the Jewels called their albums Run the Jewels and then Run the Jewels 2-4 respectively, so if they did that as a deliberate Zep thing then that's one point favouring their continued influence. But they could also have done it for some other reason, so it's hard to be sure.

Led Zep were just copying Scott Walker.

 

[Knotted]

Led Zep were just copying Scott Walker.

And Soft Machine.

 

[hash tag]

I only count Ozzy-era Sabbath.

So so right