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Pee aw for a cowboy film, blam blam for a comic book superhero film, da da da da da da for a war film and bang bang for a crime caperA good actor would be able to make a convincing gunshot noise themselves
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Orang Utan
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Brian Blessed tells a great story about making gun noises in Flash Gordon.
8ball
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Dunno if anyone here has seen “Guns Akimbo”, but it shows how even with a decent budget, simulating gunshots with CGI just looks bad and unconvincing a lot of the time.
Small film makers (and low budget TV shows) often use a little mis-direction so you never seen the gun when it goes off.
Harder to do convincingly with a Western, maybe, and it’s beginning to look like differences in attitudes to guns in the US might have had an impact in this case, especially if the “plinking” story is true.
Small film makers (and low budget TV shows) often use a little mis-direction so you never seen the gun when it goes off.
Harder to do convincingly with a Western, maybe, and it’s beginning to look like differences in attitudes to guns in the US might have had an impact in this case, especially if the “plinking” story is true.
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WouldBe
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Dont think he did. If the script calls for him to shoot towards the camera and he practices that and a live round is let loose it's likely to hit someone in the vicinity of the camera.
weltweit
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Well the bullet hit her in the chest do that seems to be where he was aiming.Dont think he did. If the script calls for him to shoot towards the camera and he practices that and a live round is let loose it's likely to hit someone in the vicinity of the camera.
And this in films, in films he might be shooting at her in shot but in reality he would be shooting (with blanks) a meter or more behind her which would not be apparent to the camera's view point.
Artaxerxes
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Apparently they had to repeatedly tell the main cast to stop making "whum" noises when swinging lightsabers around in the prequel series.
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Shippou-Sensei
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On a semi-related note lucasarts had a problem with getting a strange buzzing sound when filming large battles in the star wars prequals.A good actor would be able to make a convincing gunshot noise themselves
They wondered if it was strange equipment problems but they noticed they only got it during big battles.
turns out it was the collective sound of actors making lightsaber noises to themselves as they they fought.
Shippou-Sensei
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this is why I should read to the end of a thread before posting.
Shippou-Sensei
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From what I was reading the scene was him drawing the weapon not shooting it.
one take went ok but on the next it discharged as he drew it.
not specifically pointing in any direction. seriously bad luck.
If it was deliberately pointed at anything there would have been more safety precautions.
Saul Goodman
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Seems the armourer had previous.
www.independent.co.uk
‘Careless’ Rust armourer criticised over safety before Alec Baldwin shooting incident
Crew members said the production was one of the worst they had ever worked
www.independent.co.uk
i cant see that employing an inexperienced armourer (as part of a drive to cut production costs and maximise the profit potential of the film) could ever be a good idea. The Daily Beast reports:
"Sources have maintained that the film’s production company would do anything to save money. For example, they promised to put the crew up in a hotel in Santa Fe to be close to set.
However, when filming began, the crew were allegedly told there would be no such accommodation and instead, they would have to travel to and from Albuquerque, around 50 miles away. Many voiced concerns about working up to 13 hours a day, then driving an hour home in the dark, The Los Angeles Times reported".
The cost cutting culture that seems to have permeated 'Rust' hugely benefits highly paid 'stars' like Alec Baldwin (and company shareholders), and in this instance, the disgusting penny pinching has likely contributed to the death of a totally innocent cinemaphotographer.
So, finger jabbing at an armourer is really to miss the point. The question surely is why would any company hire an inexperienced person to fulfill an absolutely essential safety position??
"Sources have maintained that the film’s production company would do anything to save money. For example, they promised to put the crew up in a hotel in Santa Fe to be close to set.
However, when filming began, the crew were allegedly told there would be no such accommodation and instead, they would have to travel to and from Albuquerque, around 50 miles away. Many voiced concerns about working up to 13 hours a day, then driving an hour home in the dark, The Los Angeles Times reported".
The cost cutting culture that seems to have permeated 'Rust' hugely benefits highly paid 'stars' like Alec Baldwin (and company shareholders), and in this instance, the disgusting penny pinching has likely contributed to the death of a totally innocent cinemaphotographer.
So, finger jabbing at an armourer is really to miss the point. The question surely is why would any company hire an inexperienced person to fulfill an absolutely essential safety position??
Alec Baldwin: Rust script didn't call for gun to be fired, lawsuit alleges
A crew member is suing the actor over the fatal on-set shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins.
www.bbc.co.uk
Baldwin isn't out of the frame yet.
George Clooney Slams 'Cold Gun' Defense in Alec Baldwin 'Rust' Shooting: 'I've Never Heard That Term'
George Clooney is 'infuriated' by the Alec Baldwin 'Rust' prop gun accident and says he's never heard 'cold gun' used in his 40-year career.
www.cheatsheet.com
8ball
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Another dissenting voiceGeorge Clooney Slams 'Cold Gun' Defense in Alec Baldwin 'Rust' Shooting: 'I've Never Heard That Term'
George Clooney is 'infuriated' by the Alec Baldwin 'Rust' prop gun accident and says he's never heard 'cold gun' used in his 40-year career.
Pretty damning. Clooney strikes me as an honest guy, has handled a lot of guns in films, and his descriptions of what he has experienced on set are far removed from what seems to have happened here.
I get the impression they were making up their own terms to (eg. "cold gun") to cut corners - what Clooney describes is a much more long-winded process than they had on Rust.
The reports from the camera assistant who left the day beforehand are even more damning.
What a bloody mess.
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Sounds like Baldwin is now in denial about his role in shooting dead Halnya Hutchins..
Rust: Alec Baldwin says he didn't fire gun on film set
"I didn't pull the trigger," says the star, in his first interview about a fatal accident on his film set.
www.bbc.co.uk
8ball
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Sounds like Baldwin is now in denial about his role in shooting dead Halnya Hutchins..
Rust: Alec Baldwin says he didn't fire gun on film set
"I didn't pull the trigger," says the star, in his first interview about a fatal accident on his film set.www.bbc.co.uk
Can understand someone's memory playing tricks after something like that happening tbf.
Pulling a trigger really wasn't the relevant point of failure here anyway.
my suspicion is that Baldwin is trying to distance himself from taking proper responsibility for his role in this tragedy - but had he examined the weapon personally he would have realised it was a loaded dangerous weapon and Halyna Hutchins would still be alive.
Baldwin now appears to be dragging his feet about submitting his cellphone to the police for examination.. You have to wonder why? Rust: Armourer on Alec Baldwin film sues prop supplier over ammunition supply
Alec Baldwin to be charged with involuntary manslaughter over Rust shooting
A crew member will also be charged with involuntary manslaughter over the death of Halyna Hutchins.
www.bbc.co.uk
Alec Baldwin faces fresh manslaughter charge over 'Rust' shooting
A New Mexico grand jury has charged the actor anew over the on-set shooting death of Halyna Hutchins.
www.bbc.co.uk
Still Baldwin dodges the wheels of justice.
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