What's your total annual income - anonymous poll

[Orang Utan]

Good. But you also need to think about the second part, which you chopped from the quote!

On the grasper point, i agree; I've always told my Dad to spend what he can rather than save it for me and my sister when he dies; we don't need it, and the reality is it'll more likely go on care home fees than inheritance anyways. My wife and I have always planned our finances so as to ignore any possible inheritance; if it comes, it'll be an unexpected bonus that we've already agreed we'll use to get the kids on the property ladder ASAP.

i left that bit out cos i am incapable of saving or planning anything in advance of a week or so.

but yes, it's his money - he earned it, not his children, and it's up to him what he does with it - he still bails out his kids financially (including me) even though he doesn't have to. Inherited privilege seems to be a concept that certain other members of the family seem to struggle with.

 

[petee]

It does of course doesn't help when your far more wealthy former partner takes more and more from you while taking more and more time with your child with from you (it's a great irony of the system that the less time you spend with your child the more you pay despite wanting to spend 24/7 with him, but hey that's the sexist system in this country, the mum holds all the cards).

another trick is to spend all your disposable income while earning it, much of it on alcohol, while your spouse is saving for your shared future. then in the divorce, point to your savings account and say "see, i have nothing and look how much he has!"

result.

to justify this in the thread, i lost a full year's income, which is alot less, i know, than some others have had to suffer.

 

[Athos]

i left that bit out cos i am incapable of saving or planning anything in advance of a week or so.

but yes, it's his money - he earned it, not his children, and it's up to him what he does with it - he still bails out his kids financially (including me) even though he doesn't have to. Inherited privilege seems to be a concept that certain other members of the family seem to struggle with.

There's some great apps that make saving really easy. Just set and forget. I use Plum. You can set it save in all sorts of ways e.g. regular on every payday, or rounding up every card purchase, or even when it rains! They also have some challenges; one where you save a pound in the first week then it automatically puts aside a pound more each week, and another where it goes up by a penny a day.

 

[weepiper]

Unpleasant whiff of misogyny about this thread.

 

[Orang Utan]

There's some great apps that make saving really easy. Just set and forget. I use Plum. You can set it save in all sorts of ways e.g. regular on every payday, or rounding up every card purchase, or even when it rains! They also have some challenges; one where you save a pound in the first week then it automatically puts aside a pound more each week, and another where it goes up by a penny a day.

Cheers, think there's also Starling and Monzo too - have downloaded the apps ages ago and never got around to using any of them, though i think i got as far as opening a Monzo account

 

[Orang Utan]

Unpleasant whiff of misogyny about this thread.

in what way?

 

[Orang Utan]

in what way?

oh, just seen those more recent couple of posts. fair comment

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Unpleasant whiff of misogyny about this thread.

In what way?

 

[Athos]

In what way?

Men moaning about women taking their money.

 

[Athos]

Cheers, think there's also Starling and Monzo too - have downloaded the apps ages ago and never got around to using any of them, though i think i got as far as opening a Monzo account

Plum is really clever. It even has a thing whereby it links to your bank and works out your salary and your regular direct debits etc. then calculates your monthly disposable income and divides it by four, which it releases week by week, to stop you spending it all at the start of the month.

 

[petee]

Men moaning about women taking their money.

"moaning".
remember, she earned more than i did every year of our separate working lives, not just in the marriage. at one point, my lawyer thought i could get alimony from her, but it was a de minimis amount, so it didn't happen.

clear now?

 

[Athos]

"moaning".
remember, she earned more than i did every year of our separate working lives, not just in the marriage. at one point, my lawyer thought i could get alimony from her, but it was a de minimis amount, so it didn't happen.

clear now?

I made no comment on whether or not the moaning is justified.

 

[petee]

I made no comment on whether or not the moaning is justified.

it's not moaning if it's justified. it was no small amount, and i've extended my working life on account of it.
i didn't even say what she tried to do to the estate of my mother, who died during my divorce. how will an intra-female victimization fit into your rubrics?

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Men moaning about women taking their money.

I’ve mentioned that I have to give my ex money every month, but it was an example of expenditure, I’ve never once moaned that I have to give this money and do so monthly without complaint.

 

[Orang Utan]

it's not moaning if it's justified. it was no small amount, and i've extended my working life on account of it.
i didn't even say what she tried to do to the estate of my mother, who died during my divorce. how will an intra-female victimization fit into your rubrics?

start another thread then

 

[weltweit]

I earn ok, my brother has 3 jobs and a pension, his total income exceeds mine as you might expect, but I have more downtime.

 

[Athos]

it's not moaning if it's justified.

Can be. Anyways let's not derail.

 

[Orang Utan]

gabi's comment was the most egregious - of course the person who does the most child care should get the lion's share of both parties' incomes. The fathers of my sisters' kids also have trouble understanding this - both of them seem to want to impoverish their own children and make their housing security less safe, whilst enriching themselves.

 

[petee]

start another thread then

you meant that for Athos i believe. i'm following Petcha's lead, and worked my comment #242 into the theme of the thread, it was Athos who made a crack which needed rebuttal.

but out of my great heart, i'll stop for you.

 

[Petcha]

another trick is to spend all your disposable income while earning it, much of it on alcohol, while your spouse is saving for your shared future. then in the divorce, point to your savings account and say "see, i have nothing and look how much he has!"

result.

to justify this in the thread, i lost a full year's income, which is alot less, i know, than some others have had to suffer.

Edit: Not worth it

 

[strung out]

Yes, that's exactly how it happened. You cunt.

He's not talking about you, you idiot, though it's quite funny that it's close enough for you to think he is.

 

[Petcha]

He's not talking about you, you idiot, though it's quite funny that it's close enough for you to think he is.

I've edited

 

[Petcha]

Sorry, I've had a fucking day of it today where I've been accused of 'not supporting' my son financially as I dont pay for his after school club which was news to me, when I believed this was being paid for by the government grant she gets, but without my knowledge she had been 'putting away' into her bank account for his future. I pay all I fucking can, and then some. Now she's coming for more. Which she legally can apparently. She already gets 1/3. Because she spends the majority of the time with him. And I want to spend much more time with him. The system is utterly fucked. The less time I spend with him, the more I pay. Does that make sense?

 

[AmateurAgitator]

It's depressing looking at the poll and realising most people really do earn more money than I do.

Yeah same for me, though I'm not in the workplace anymore. Am on benefits due to health problems.

 

[Orang Utan]

Sorry, I've had a fucking day of it today where I've been accused of 'not supporting' my son financially as I dont pay for his after school club which was news to me, when I believed this was being paid for by the government grant she gets, but without my knowledge she had been 'putting away' into her bank account for his future. I pay all I fucking can, and then some. Now she's coming for more. Which she legally can apparently. She already gets 1/3. Because she spends the majority of the time with him. And I want to spend much more time with him. The system is utterly fucked. The less time I spend with him, the more I pay. Does that make sense?

Yes. Completely. The person who does the most child care deserves the lion(ess)’s share. It’s a no brainer

 

[platinumsage]

I would answer this but my income fluctuates wildly from one year to the next and I have no idea how much I’ve earned until I do my tax return.

 

[kabbes]

I used to do an annual version of this thread, I now recall. The last one was all the way back in 2013 though! Doesn’t time fly?

Interesting to compare results:

2013: https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/the-annual-annual-income-thread.316117/

2012:

https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/the-increasingly-annual-salary-thread.300045/

2011:

https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/what-do-you-earn-aka-how-has-urban-been-affected-by-the-national-economic-woes.282063/

 

[rubbershoes]

I used to do an annual version of this thread, I now recall. The last one was all the way back in 2013 though! Doesn’t time fly?

Interesting to compare results:

2013: https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/the-annual-annual-income-thread.316117/

2012:

https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/the-increasingly-annual-salary-thread.300045/

2011:

https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/what-do-you-earn-aka-how-has-urban-been-affected-by-the-national-economic-woes.282063/

It would be interesting if someone could do an analysis of the results. Since 2013 we're older and so in theory more experienced and liable for promotion or better opportunities. On the other hand the country has been thoroughly fucked since then.

 

[UnderOpenSky]

There's some great apps that make saving really easy. Just set and forget. I use Plum. You can set it save in all sorts of ways e.g. regular on every payday, or rounding up every card purchase, or even when it rains! They also have some challenges; one where you save a pound in the first week then it automatically puts aside a pound more each week, and another where it goes up by a penny a day.

I've got the rounding up one set on my Starling. Its quite easy to forget about it and then get a nice surprise every few months.

 

[Thora]

Sorry, I've had a fucking day of it today where I've been accused of 'not supporting' my son financially as I dont pay for his after school club which was news to me, when I believed this was being paid for by the government grant she gets, but without my knowledge she had been 'putting away' into her bank account for his future. I pay all I fucking can, and then some. Now she's coming for more. Which she legally can apparently. She already gets 1/3. Because she spends the majority of the time with him. And I want to spend much more time with him. The system is utterly fucked. The less time I spend with him, the more I pay. Does that make sense?

Of course it’s more expensive to permanently house, heat, clothe, feed, transport, educate and entertain a child full time than it is to have them visit every other weekend. I spend a lot more than 1/3 of my income on my children.