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What's your attitude to COVID and risk now?

What do you feel comfortable doing now in your own time?

  • Gigs, clubs, licking strangers... bring it on!

    Votes: 16 18.4%
  • Sticking to places people are likely to be masked on the whole for now

    Votes: 29 33.3%
  • Will see family and friends but staying out of public places

    Votes: 19 21.8%
  • Still not doing anything indoors

    Votes: 5 5.7%
  • Being really careful & not going out much as CEV/someone in household/I see a lot is CEV

    Votes: 4 4.6%
  • Other approach

    Votes: 14 16.1%

  • Total voters
    87
As I've recently had covid I feel quite relaxed right now. It was v mild and my youngest didn't test positive despite two of us having covid in the house.
Masks in shops, taxis & communal indoor spaces. Doing lft's 2x a week and asking my clients to before sessions. We're mostly unmasked but distanced.
My riskiest thing was prob playing pool the other night and hugging some people. The benefit felt like it outweighed the risk. Was lovely to see friends and relax into it. It did us all the world of good.
I need to rebook my booster as I was isolating when I was called for it.
 
Team of seven at work. Since Christmas, four of us have had to self isolate because family members have got it. We're only just managing to function and keep the business open so everyone that's left is even more anxious not to get it now.
In my work place if anyone in our households are positive then we isolate until a PCR result and if its negative we come back to work and do daily LFTs before arriving each day.
 
Before Christmas I got the fear and basically locked down again completely, but my daughter got it anyway and I didn't. I've relaxed now, I'm not particularly scared of getting it and I'm triple jabbed. I'm wearing masks and not taking risks, but I am using public transport and this week I'm going to the theatre for the first time since pre-covid.
 
Yeah, I'm somewhere between 1 and 2 - went to some gigs and the pub a bit in December, have only been out to one indoor social thing so far this year but then it's early days yet. In December I had a gin and tonic and belatedly realised that having a drink through a straw is actually really good in terms of not having to remove your mask, I have now conducted some further research and learned that if you put a straw into a can of lager it makes it froth up all over the place.
 
Seems a funny time for a poll when things are very much in flux.

When licking strangers I demand evidence of two consecutive lateral flow tests.
I don't know it feels suddenly like quite a lot of people who are vaxxed and have been very careful for a long have got to a point of going 'You know what, I might as well let myself do a bit more'. And, as poll indicates, that doesn't mean rushing out to do everything, but it does mean seeing a bit more of people, doing stuff under more controlled circumstances (eg where people likely to be masked). People who have been vaxxed know that means catching it is not a certainty if you come into contact with someone, LFTs give you reasonable assurance you're not infectious if seeing vulnerable people or going somewhere busy and so on.

I guess it helps that omicron seems less intimidating - anecdotally I'd say only about 10% of people I know who've had it in the last few weeks have had anything more than a few days of feeling grotty, it seems mostly not to be the interminable 2 week+ slog that other variants have been, which also came with the anxiety that often the worst symptoms (cough, chest pain, shortness of breath) wouldn't start until week 2, even if week 1 didn't seem that bad and so on.
 
Still being cautious. I'm testing twice a week plus before I pop round my folks / someone else's house. Pubs I don't go to anyhow - I'd like to go out for a meal but I'll wait to see what the infection levels are like in a few weeks time - I've a feeling the post-Xmas infection levels won't make good reading. I've not been to a gig in over a year - this is something I want to rectify this time around but only if I think it's safe.

Really lucky that both myself and my partner have jobs we can do from home and we're pretty outdoorsy so don't need to mingle with others inside.

Get well soon danny la rouge btw.

I want it all to be over, but just wanting it doesn’t make it so.
Yep.
 
I don't know it feels suddenly like quite a lot of people who are vaxxed and have been very careful for a long have got to a point of going 'You know what, I might as well let myself do a bit more'. And, as poll indicates, that doesn't mean rushing out to do everything, but it does mean seeing a bit more of people, doing stuff under more controlled circumstances (eg where people likely to be masked). People who have been vaxxed know that means catching it is not a certainty if you come into contact with someone, LFTs give you reasonable assurance you're not infectious if seeing vulnerable people or going somewhere busy and so on.

I guess it helps that omicron seems less intimidating - anecdotally I'd say only about 10% of people I know who've had it in the last few weeks have had anything more than a few days of feeling grotty, it seems mostly not to be the interminable 2 week+ slog that other variants have been, which also came with the anxiety that often the worst symptoms (cough, chest pain, shortness of breath) wouldn't start until week 2, even if week 1 didn't seem that bad and so on.

Yeah, I mostly meant that if this thread runs for a bit the answers could be shifting quite a lot compared to when you started it and the results v hard to interpret.

I def agree that more people are becoming happier with taking graded risks, and others have said “well, fuck it”.
 
I've been seeing friends f2f and not always wearing a mask. It's not consistent across the board either...have visited a friend indoors, kept mask on (multi layer cloth one, not ffp3); visited a friend indoors, mostly kept mask on but had a cuppa; visited a friend outdoors no masks and didn't stay that far apart; had a friend visit and made us all dinner and none of us had masks on.

Went to a pub in November, enjoyed it but had to isolate afterwards. Made me realise I do like it, not sure whether I'll figure out a rationale and a timing for going to one again.

I do ffp2 or ffp3 masks on public transport, and for some shops; and for support work where cients choose to go to cafes. I travel long distance on trains fairly regularly & keep an ffp3 mask on for the duration.

I'd love to go out dancing sometime - reckon a club or a party in a big space, where I can choose how close to be to people, would be more enjoyable. A gig where people crowd to the front doesn't sound like fun at the mo.

For personal risk factors, I'm not clinically vulnerable and don't live with anyone who is.
I sometimes think ah fuckit I'm bound to catch it sooner or later, why bother being cautious; however I still don't fancy the gamble over getting long covid of any description. I've far too many friends who have longterm life changing illnesses from post-viral stuff, ME, Lyme's, as well as a couple of friends with awful long covid symptoms. It might well turn out to be unavoidable, doesn't mean I need to make sure I get it in the meantime.
That's the personal risk side of it...

For the risk factor of adding pressure to the healthcare system, this still factors in, but it's a bit more tempered with feeling like, I'm still doing a lot more than many people in how I'm navigating this; maybe it's ok if I take a few risks now and then, to keep my head together.
 
Like some others, I'd ask for an extra option in between 1 and 2. I don't feel myself to be in the category of the completely blasé doorknob lickers but I'm certainly not "careful" by what I think most of you would define as the term. "Careful up to the point of breaking" maybe?

I've been working in the office since my second jab back in june since WfH doesn't agree with me at all it seems. I'm claustrophobic and can't keep a mask on for more than 45-60mins without panicking, so it's doable for public transport, shops, etc. but not something I can wear in the office. Regular crushes on the victoria line, occasional cases linked to people in the office. My partner's working as a TA in a school, wore a mask all day starting in december due to heavy staff and pupil infections (many of the kids can't wear masks for special needs reasons, many of the teachers don't care). We've both been hurting quite badly from the pandemic for varying different reasons, but we both have the (probably wrong, certainly dangerous, but nonetheless enticing) gutfeel that if we were going to get it, we'd have got it by now. Every test negative so far.

As such, we still go out to the pub once a week or so (usually for the quiz) and have been to several restaurants (wearing masks until we get to the table even though it's largely pointless theatre) over the last six months or so, and I've been to two work events with attendances over 100.

This is a thing I've never understood the whole time - they always said look out for temperature, cough, aches with COVID, but only about 30% report cough and I think maybe a bit more ache and temperature.... but IIRC about 70% of sufferers report fatigue. So why has that never been reported anywhere as the top indicator of COVID?! For me, often the difference between a normal cold and a really bad virus is that kind of 'viral tiredness' you get with the latter (which is quite distinctive from normal levels of being run-down or underslept).

It's an argumentative point perhaps, but I think it's something people can't reliably self-diagnose. We've had the same spiel with ME and post-viral fatigue - they certainly seem to exist, but how does one differentiate them medically from someone thoroughly knackered from too much work/not enough sleep...?

I once thought I suffered from fatigue. Then I caught glandular fever, was hospitalised for a week and took another nine months to recover, and finally figured out what "real" fatigue might actually feel like. Spoiler: it completely fucking sucks and made me feel like a completely useless lump of flesh. But I think, like perhaps the lesser version of "flu is just a bad cold!", until you've experienced it you might not be able to understand it.

I still think it's way, waaaaaay too early to state that "omicron is milder" with any degree of certainty, or doesn't have any other similar long-term health effects and I find the current government CRG stance on this to be fucking stupid/terrifying. But I'm cautious by nature and don't mind maying tax to support people less fortunate than me so my stance is effectively meaningless.

Oh and on the subject of day-to-day activity, still WFH, but I don't have a choice because everyone else is and there is no "office" any more.

I hate WFH. I deliberately picked my current job because it involved hanging around with other people (before the pandemic anyway) - I'd had quite enough of WFH being freelance and it was very bad for me. Recruiters were spamming me with stuff using WFH as a bonus and were gobsmacked when I said I actively didn't want any WFH jobs.

Now of course that's turned on its head, the only time I went into the office for was the interview before I started, and I'm in the position of having to try to predict whether this job is ever going to go office/people-based again, or whether I should just quit.

Very sorry to hear this Fridge :( I did the exact same thing with my (started pre-pandemic) current job - two others listed working from home options as a bonus; I ended the interviews when I found out it was a mandatory thing, heavily linked to Hot Desk Hell. My current employer was likewise gobsmacked when I said not WfH was a positive for me (since so many other applicants listed "no-WfH" as a massive negative). Have always thought it was a sensible thing for companies to offer for flexibility's sake (esp. for people with kids) but shouldn't ever have to be a one-size-fits-all thing.

It's more something for another thread, but I think quitting would be bold (if you enjoy the work at least, which I think you did from previous). I don't have any experiences over it myself but not sure if you've tried things like cow-orking spaces or not yet but think it's worth trying at least for the change of scenery. I've got a friend in a similar situation who wants to go back to the office but can't and I find it mildly terrifying that "WfH is so popular, why would anyone dislike it?!" has become such a dominant position that I think legitimate, and really quite serious, mental health issues are being completely ignored by far too many companies.

Incidentally, good to see you posting again, was worried we'd lost you for a bit :)

I don't know it feels suddenly like quite a lot of people who are vaxxed and have been very careful for a long have got to a point of going 'You know what, I might as well let myself do a bit more'.

FWIW I think me and my partner reached that not long after we got our second jabs. I realise that many are likely holding on to return to what we might laughingly call "normality" but I really do feel I need the changes of scenery and a little random social contact to stop myself going completely round the bend - both in work and social life. It's got to the state that I can't even do online shopping any more because I associate it so much with the pandemic.
 
Still wary (and weary) of the whole thing. But round here, apart from some of fellow foreigners, everyone's masked up and nobody is freaking out or complaining about it. Still get to go out, socialise, cinema and work. But constant cleaning, adhering to any restrictions etc. This variant is spreading fast, things might change.

It's currently scarier online, where sanity seems to be on holiday and the Qanons/CTs/far right are seemingly everywhere with their posion. Or maybe just need to take a break from social media/internet...
 
FWIW I think me and my partner reached that not long after we got our second jabs. I realise that many are likely holding on to return to what we might laughingly call "normality" but I really do feel I need the changes of scenery and a little random social contact to stop myself going completely round the bend - both in work and social life. It's got to the state that I can't even do online shopping any more because I associate it so much with the pandemic.

I'm definitely feeling a bit fatigued about WFH every day since going back last week - I don't think I'll ever be back full time, but maybe two days a week would be good for just a change of damn scene now. My team were never all in the office together more than 2 or 3 days a week anyway, so it won't be much different once we do come back.
 
I haven't been back to the gym since COVID started, but that's in large part because doing 20 mins a day at home (plus 30-40 mins stationary bike 2-3 times a week) seems to be working OK. When they reopened, with my gym, I was like 'Nope, most of the demographic are exactly the people who will not be taking any precautions whatsoever'. I think the receding threat of having to isolate because of contacts makes it less of an issue now, but again I won't consider it until omicron has definitely peaked, and maybe only when I'm going into work more often and my morning home exercise won't be a possibility every day.
Both times I caught covid were from my regular 3x weekly group activity (Capoeira) - however, it is so essential for my mental health, and it's the only community/regular going somewhere activity I do these days, I'd rather risk it than not go. So, the only time I stopped going was during lockdown...

The very first time I caught it, a few people in the group had returned from an event in Italy and we believe they caught it there - many of us got sick and at first we assumed it was a bad flu - that was the sickest I've ever been, and my breathing was laboured for a bit. We even sort of joked it could be covid (it was in February 2020, so already on the news) and I'm now convinced it was, given the timeline and that Italy was the first epicentre in Europe.

Not exactly a gym, but a dance studio - same principle/risk. Also my granddaughter does gymnastics in a leisure centre, and I'm the one who takes her, so that only stopped during lockdown.

At this stage in our family most people are vaccinated and or have had it. Granddaughter's other grandmother ended up in hospital with it in September - she's diabetic and not vaccinated :( - but she made it through, thankfully. She is still feeling fatigued from it though. She thinks she has long covid.
 
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The WFH thing has varied so much, my place has been much more of the "pushing to get people back in the office as much and as soon as possible even if there's no actual reason for it" kind, although the new wave has put that on hold for now.
 
I don't feel that worried for myself to be honest. In general I'm happy to take my chances - I'd probably think twice about going to a nightclub but I haven't been to one for years anyway, and I'm happy enough to go to the pub or whatever. I'm WFH still but that's more to distance than Covid and I'm starting a new job closer to here in February and will be going in - I've had enough of spending so much time in the house quite frankly, it's not doing me any good.

Aside from that I try and respect other people's boundaries/level of comfort around this stuff and not try and push my own position on them. So if someone want to keep meets outside or whatever that's fine. I also view wearing masks in public places as part of that. I take a similar approach to meeting older/more vulnerable people. My parents are in their seventies but without taking outrageous chances (they're also not going to nightclubs!) they definitely don't want to be cutting themselves off and it would feel patronising to tell them differently, they're adults who can make their own decisions. Conversely my sister's partner is very high risk indeed (she's awaiting a heart transplant) so they're still strictly outdoors at a distance only which is fine. The only exception really is my partner's grandad who is 93 and not really able to make these decisions so we do try and be safe for a week or so if we're seeing him (if I'm honest I'd be quite happy to use Covid as an excuse not to go and listen to his stories of how someone did him wrong in the 50s but it doesn't seem that will fly).
 
Both times I caught covid were from my regular 3x weekly group activity (Capoeira) - however, it is so essential for my mental health, and it's the only community/regular going somewhere activity I do these days, I'd rather risk it than not go.

Someone I know went to a boxing class of 15 people, all tested negative with LFTs just before as they ask, and then after one tested positive with a PCR after getting symptoms, and then in the following days 10 more of the 15 tested positive! Pre-Omicron as well!
 
I went to a football match at the weekend for the first time in two years, I'm afraid at this point having been very pro lockdown and followed the rules throughout I just want my life back. I'm still testing before I meet vulnerable people etc and my sister is pregnant so I'll do a LFT before meeting her but I do have to get out and do things now otherwise it's really bad for my mental health tbh.

I'm WFH too (since well before covid) and trying to look for a job where I go in at least some of the time as I do miss going in :(
 
I was being more careful before Christmas because of imminent family stuff and Chemistry had only just been boosted. Less careful afterwards (masks everywhere indoors, have to get public transport etc). Only really going somewhere once a week but seem to have managed to catch it anyway. I don't think I caught it from the 4 year old :hmm:
 
Still very careful as I’ve a 4 month old to worry about. One of the babies in our mums and babies group got covid and it most definitely isn’t a cold.

I have to go into work, as senior mgmt want the library open for as many hours as possible I’m doing two 8 to 7 shifts this week lone working. As well as the normal 9 to 5 and am working Saturdays as well now. The institution is very lax about covid. We had a meeting in December when we were told we had had only one covid case since September! Turns out that hourly paid staff have been coming in and teaching with covid.

That’s enough of a risk for me and mine. We did visit family over Xmas in Montreal and despite the curfew had a great time with them and the snow. Heading home in March so my old pair can meet their grandson for the first time. So happy to do little outside of work to make sure that happens.
 
This morning my wife woke up with all the symptoms of Covid. She’s been tested and is clear, thank god it’s only a cold.

Not so long ago this would not have been something that cheered us up. She’s a little bit disappointed because she will have to go to work though.
 
This morning my wife woke up with all the symptoms of Covid. She’s been tested and is clear, thank god it’s only a cold.

Not so long ago this would not have been something that cheered us up. She’s a little bit disappointed because she will have to go to work though.

PCR that quick or an LFT?
 
Risk means a number of different things.

There's the personal risk of catching Covid and getting seriously ill or dying. That's changed over time and currently, with Omicron and vaccines, the likelihood of catching it is very high, but the chance of a serious outcome for a triple vaxxed, otherwise healthy person is low. Of course, not everyone is triple vaxxed or otherwise healthy.

Then there's the risk of getting a bit ill (or having it asymptomatically) and having to self isolate for 7 days. Some people can suck that up much easier than others. People with younger kids or a job without sick pay might find it harder than the young and free/old and retired/otherwise fortunate and want to avoid the inconvenience of being ill and having to do childcare while not leaving the house or not getting paid for a week or various other reasons. Part of the reason so many people didn't go out in the run up to Xmas was that they didn't want to get stuck isolating more than worries about getting ill.

There's the risk to others. With the current strain being highly transmissible, even if your personal situation is 'I'm fine, I don't give a fuck' there's still the risk of going out and spreading it about to those who may be vulnerable.

Then there's the risk to wider society. Case rates are still sky high, even if they have peaked. Hospitals aren't far off having as many Covid patients as in the first wave, even if they aren't going into ICU and dying in anywhere near previous numbers. Lots of places are struggling with staff absence. It's not over yet.

Personally I've been going to work as normal since the last lockdown ended last spring. My kids have been going to school. I've been taking the kids to lower risk places (yes to outside at the zoo or park or beach; no to softplay germ pits) and they can see their friends, who they spend all week at school with anyway. They've missed enough of their childhood. That seems like enough risk to me, so I'll wait for this wave to pass before going to gigs or putting myself at higher risk.

I don't personally feel at risk of serious illness (triple vaxxed, no known health issues), I'd rather not get ill and have to isolate, but I'll manage if I do. But I am being careful to try and not put other people at risk of catching it from me, so I still wear a mask, avoid crowded places or spending time with lots of people I don't normally see.

I'm looking forward to this wave to be over, as I'm feeling kind of positive about the rest of 2022 at the moment.
 
Both times I caught covid were from my regular 3x weekly group activity (Capoeira) - however, it is so essential for my mental health, and it's the only community/regular going somewhere activity I do these days, I'd rather risk it than not go. So, the only time I stopped going was during lockdown...
Yeah, my mother in law went back to gym classes as soon as she could as she felt she needed that for her mental as well as physical health, doesn't seem to have caught anything.
 
tbf the staff absences thing is increasingly becoming something of an own goal. There has often been a need to move more quickly in this pandemic than the authorities have been prepared to move, but that goes for relaxing restrictions as well as imposing them. After spending the whole of December bigging up the threat of omicron, they're now being too slow to change the rules to suit a milder infection. Hence the staffing crises.

There's a serious risk of losing the consent and goodwill of people in the self-policing aspects of all this.
 
Yeah, my mother in law went back to gym classes as soon as she could as she felt she needed that for her mental as well as physical health, doesn't seem to have caught anything.
Losing my martial arts classes was probably the single hardest thing about lockdown. We got back going as soon as we could. First national-level event we had after coming back, five people tested positive the week after. Probably caught it at the hotel rather than in the event itself, but it was still a bit of a fucker. This was back in November and just for a moment, things felt semi-normal.
 
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