What's going on in the CIRCA thread?

[badnewswade]

And you? A class-struggle anarchist who wants to neck-shot all class enemies as decided upon by automous workers assemblies maybe?

I think he has anger-management issues

 

[rednblack]

so its acceptable to grass up BIM volunteers and possibly wreck their lives (providing the work address for fucks sake) just because of some daft post made by either complete idiots or the cops as a pre G8 attempt at stirring up and damaging the anti G8 movement in bristol

if the filth did post the claim, they've done their job brilliantly, thanks to the help of scum like zaskar

 

[badnewswade]

so its acceptable to grass up BIM volunteers and possibly wreck their lives (providing the work address for fucks sake) just because of some daft post made by either complete idiots or the cops as a pre G8 attempt at stirring up and damaging the anti G8 movement in bristol

Fuck your anti G8 bullshit, rockdropping is real and it kills people. As for the "anti G8 movement", right now that consists of two crusties and a dog doesn't it? I've never heard of it outside of the cultish environment of BIM.

if the filth did post the claim, they've done their job brilliantly, thanks to the help of scum like zaskar

If the filth really did post the claim, BIM have taken the bait in fine style by not deleting the post for 24 hours.I guess guideline breaking and dropping your mates in the shit is fine as long as you talk the talk.

 

[IPRN]

Those on U75 who know me know that I have a history of 30 years involvement in the struggle, and have been involved in everything from squatting to environmental action, and from militant anti-fascism to prisoner support work. I am a class-struggle Anarchist, and I'm certainly not ashamed of that. I CAN see the difference between that and fascism.

I do not throw shit around randomly on U75, but touts in the movement disgust me. Despite not knowing them personally, I choose to side with the people of Bristol Indymedia, not with the craven shitbag who is causing them problems with the cops.

I don't post on here to present some kind of revolutionary CV, my ideology and principles are enshrined in the posts I make, as in everything I do. If that isn't good enough for you Teejay, tough. That you are more concerned that some tout might have been offended than by what he has done says a lot about you.

badnewswade, you're not even worth replying to. Are you mentally subnormal or something, you haven't even read this thread?

 

[badnewswade]

badnewswade, you're not even worth replying to. Are you mentally subnormal or something, you haven't even read this thread?

I take it that's a no then?

damn

 

[IPRN]

And you? A class-struggle anarchist who wants to neck-shot all class enemies as decided upon by automous workers assemblies maybe?

I don't know where this 'neck-shots' thing has come from, what's up with fucking head-shots?

 

[TeeJay]

You prefer head-shots? Or maybe you prefer to save bullets and have some fun by stomping people to death?

Take it up with ernesto, its not really my area of expertise.

 

[rednblack]

touts should be clubbed to death with rifle butts - or pushed down long flights of stone stairs

 

[TeeJay]

Why shouldn't the same be done to any petty criminal and wannabe thug?

 

[rednblack]

Why shouldn't the same be done to any petty criminal and wannabe thug?

don't worry you are covered by the tout bit

 

[IPRN]

You prefer head-shots? Or maybe you prefer to save bullets and have some fun by stomping people to death?

This level of violence is never fun. You can try to characterise those of us who oppose police-informers as one-dimensional thugs all you like Teejay, but it is the police and the State who have the guns, who use violence, who intimidate and beat people up. They are the people who Zaskar, and you it seems, choose to side with. Like all liberals, you're not against violence per se, you just don't want to get your own hands dirty. Zaskar seems to have used the cops to settle his score with BIM because he's too cowardly to do it personally.

 

[Zaskar]

The latest news from Bristol is that Zaskar didn't just provide the details of a post on Bristol Indymedia to the police, he also told them Bristol Indymedia kept IP addresses of contributors that the police could obtain AND he gave the name, address and contact details of at least one Bristol Indymedia volunteer (including all their work details). Presumably they're now having a charming experience at the hands of Avon & Somerset's CID...

That, like much of this thread is a complete fabrication. All I did was inform the police of the post.

You lot really are starting to work up to a good old lynching arent you ?

 

[Sorry.]

That, like much of this thread is a complete fabrication.

Which bits?

 

[rednblack]

Which bits?

most of zaskar's and his mates bits

 

[DaveCinzano]

as you yourself say,

All I did was inform the police of the post

indymedia sites the world over are subject to state intereference and harassment, as well you now. they are also monitored by police and other agencies - so again, why did you feel the need to inform the police of anything? (notwithstanding the very real questions raised as to (i) what the bim post in question actually meant, and (ii) whether it actually reflected any real incident(s).)

meanwhile, care to expand on

You lot

and

a good old lynching

?

you are familiar with media techniques, so can you explain why you choose those particular terms to characterise criticism of you/your actions?

 

[badnewswade]

Those on U75 who know me know that I have a history of 30 years involvement in the struggle,

Is that why you keep reverting to 1970's gangsterspeak then?

"gor blimey some grass got on the dog an bone so I'm gonna have ter go on the up for a bet and threaten 'em wiv a currant bun. Gor blimey guvna strike a light he was in a proper two and eight, etc, etc..."

and have been involved in everything from squatting to environmental action, and from militant anti-fascism

So you squatted some buildings, I've done that, environmental action, that probably means you were at Newbury, hell, I was at Batheaston, and as for militant anti-fascism, is that like Larry O'Hara's anti-fascism, where you smear members of rival anti-fascist outfits as being undercover cops?

to prisoner support work. I am a class-struggle Anarchist, and I'm certainly not ashamed of that. I CAN see the difference between that and fascism.

Fair enough if you really do attack fascists and support people in gaol and all that, but for crying out loud, you of all people should know, if you are going to plot and plan illegal and dangerous activities then surely you could at least have the decency to do it in secret and off line instead of fucking up a perfectly good board by boasting about it there.

Surely it is this loudmouthed, bragging dickhead (who may well be a cop as you so rightly pointed out) who is to blame for being a "tout", and not the citizens who merely phoned the thing in.

Look, Big Vern, Zaskar certainly hasn't signed up to your Code Of Silence or Omerta or whatever, and neither has anyone else who happened to look at BIM that day. BIM is a public talkboard, not the Sicilian Mafia- and the public are generally liable to phone in "activists" who post detailed reports of crimes they have committed (and encourage people to copy them). That's not them being "grasses" - that's just reality. If you started chucking rocks at the traffic from a bridge, some citizen would call a cop- that doesn't make them an evil traitor because they don't owe you anything .

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS OR ARE YOU JUST STUPID?

 

[rednblack]

So you squatted some buildings, I've done that, environmental action, that probably means you were at Newbury, hell, I was at Batheaston, and as for militant anti-fascism, is that like Larry O'Hara's anti-fascism, where you smear members of rival anti-fascist outfits as being undercover cops?

so you're a searchlies boy are you? that would fit with your constant mad deliberate misreadings of the whole point - either you are some dodgy nutbar, or a disruptive cunt out to cause trouble

 

[DaveCinzano]

so you're a searchlies boy are you? that would fit with your constant mad deliberate misreadings of the whole point - either you are some dodgy nutbar, or a disruptive cunt out to cause trouble

he's not searchlight (to the best of my knowledge), if that helps.

 

[butchersapron]

he's not searchlight (to the best of my knowledge), if that helps.

I don't think even they're that desperate. This must be the first time he's ever been taken seriously. Make the most of it BNW. Posters will soon cotton on that you're npt worth their time.

 

[butchersapron]

What's your dads name wade?

 

[badnewswade]

just read the fucking post you twats

 

[badnewswade]

Come on, dumbshits.

REPOST (relevant bit):

Fair enough if you really do attack fascists and support people in gaol and all that, but for crying out loud, you of all people should know, if you are going to plot and plan illegal and dangerous activities then surely you could at least have the decency to do it in secret and off line instead of fucking up a perfectly good board by boasting about it there.

Surely it is this loudmouthed, bragging dickhead (who may well be a cop as you so rightly pointed out) who is to blame for being a "tout", and not the citizens who merely phoned the thing in.

Look, Big Vern, Zaskar certainly hasn't signed up to your Code Of Silence or Omerta or whatever, and neither has anyone else who happened to look at BIM that day. BIM is a public talkboard, not the Sicilian Mafia- and the public are generally liable to phone in "activists" who post detailed reports of crimes they have committed (and encourage people to copy them). That's not them being "grasses" - that's just reality. If you started chucking rocks at the traffic from a bridge, some citizen would call a cop- that doesn't make them an evil traitor because they don't owe you anything .

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS OR ARE YOU JUST STUPID?

 

[Sorry.]

badnewswade This user is on your Ignore List.

 

[rednblack]

is it tony gosling?

badnewswade your points have already been addressed several times you daft cunt - i think i'll just ignore you from now on

 

[DaveCinzano]

is it tony gosling?

steady now

 

[badnewswade]

is it tony gosling?

badnewswade your points have already been addressed several times you daft cunt - i think i'll just ignore you from now on

No they haven't, you'd rather pointlessly persecute some liberal wimp than the asshole who really dropped you in it. Totally missing the point.

You appear to be on some kind of permanent 1980s flashback. Or 1890s- you definitley seem to be trying to cultivate the impression of being smoke filled room inhabiting anarchists conspiring to overthrow the government when in fact you are just a bunch of sad fantasists and would-be four flushing thugs.

Get a life, for Christs sake! Get a girlfriend or go to a gay bar or something. You'll feel a lot better, and maybe meet some normal people as well. I mean, not everyone thinks they are in a Joseph Conrad novel / gangster movie like you.

 

[IPRN]

Is that why you keep reverting to 1970's gangsterspeak then?

"gor blimey some grass got on the dog an bone so I'm gonna have ter go on the up for a bet and threaten 'em wiv a currant bun. Gor blimey guvna strike a light he was in a proper two and eight, etc, etc..."



So you squatted some buildings, I've done that, environmental action, that probably means you were at Newbury, hell, I was at Batheaston, and as for militant anti-fascism, is that like Larry O'Hara's anti-fascism, where you smear members of rival anti-fascist outfits as being undercover cops?



Fair enough if you really do attack fascists and support people in gaol and all that, but for crying out loud, you of all people should know, if you are going to plot and plan illegal and dangerous activities then surely you could at least have the decency to do it in secret and off line instead of fucking up a perfectly good board by boasting about it there.

Surely it is this loudmouthed, bragging dickhead (who may well be a cop as you so rightly pointed out) who is to blame for being a "tout", and not the citizens who merely phoned the thing in.

Look, Big Vern, Zaskar certainly hasn't signed up to your Code Of Silence or Omerta or whatever, and neither has anyone else who happened to look at BIM that day. BIM is a public talkboard, not the Sicilian Mafia- and the public are generally liable to phone in "activists" who post detailed reports of crimes they have committed (and encourage people to copy them). That's not them being "grasses" - that's just reality. If you started chucking rocks at the traffic from a bridge, some citizen would call a cop- that doesn't make them an evil traitor because they don't owe you anything .

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS OR ARE YOU JUST STUPID?

The day I give a fuck about some half-witted tout-friendly lying wanker trying to denigrate my political activity is the day I'll pack it in.

 

[badnewswade]

The day I give a fuck about some half-witted tout-friendly lying wanker trying to denigrate my political activity is the day I'll pack it in.

Guess you're fucked then.

Gor blimey guvna, 'ee was well aaht of ordah, knaaa wot I meeaan?

 

[IPRN]

normal people

What would you know about normal people? 'Normal people' do not think it is OK to give the names and addresses of comrades and former colleagues to the cops.

 

[DaveCinzano]

badnewswade:

have you ever been involved in an organisation that hasn't been dogged by personal spats caused largely by you?