what the bible says about money

[8ball]

Ok, I had that video running in the background for a fait bit - apparently it goes on for 2 hours!

Not sure if it's any more 'scammy' than any other financial newsletter, but he's obv playing up the 'Goddy' angle to mine an underexploited market.
Which, having listened to a lot of it, is basically his trading style.

 

[Humberto]

Ok, I had that video running in the background for a fait bit - apparently it goes on for 2 hours!

Not sure if it's any more 'scammy' than any other financial newsletter, but he's obv playing up the 'Goddy' angle to mine an underexploited market.
Which, having listened to a lot of it, is basically his trading style.

I listened to it. Didn't realise it was two hours but it certainly dragged on!

The stock market is basically gambling.

The main thing that sticks with me is the use of the parable of the talents as a commandment to invest (and to not invest being sinful). The servant who buried his talent for fear of losing it was bollocked. But it was a parable. I'm not sure what the point was, but I wouldn't trust someone selling stock tips to give me an answer.

There is also this:

Mathew 13:44
'The kingdom of heaven is like unto a treasure hidden in the field; which a man found, and hid; and in his joy he goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.'

and this:

Matthew 13:45-46
Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls.
When he found one of great value, he went away and sold everything he had and bought it.

Is Jesus literally talking about monetary wealth, or does he just prefer to use parables to illustrate his teachings? Given that he told rich people to give away everything they have to the poor, for example, I think you can safely assume the parable of the talents wasn't a commandment to pay someone for stock market tips.

 

[8ball]

The main thing that sticks with me is the use of the parable of the talents as a commandment to invest (and to not invest being sinful). The servant who buried his talent for fear of losing it was bollocked. But it was a parable. I'm not sure what the point was, but I wouldn't trust someone selling stock tips to give me an answer.

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Is Jesus literally talking about monetary wealth, or does he just prefer to use parables to illustrate his teachings? Given that he told rich people to give away everything they have to the poor, for example, I think you can safely assume the parable of the talents wasn't a commandment to pay someone for stock market tips.

Agree totally with that - it's a pretty ropey and limited interpretation of that parable. There are other bits too of which I could think of quotes directly countering his interpretation.

The stock market is gambling in the sense that any form of investment is gambling, including taking the money out of the bank and sticking it in your mattress.

 

[frogwoman]

Spoke to my mum about the Plymouth brethren tonight. She said that her dad went to a normal school but that in his family they weren't allowed to play cards or go dancing, and on the sabbath they had to read the bible and not do anything else.

 

[frogwoman]

I was almost tempted to contact them at one point to see if I could go along to a service in order to learn/understand more about my family. Not to join them obviously but just to understand what my great grandad and his wife believed. I dont think I will now

 

[8ball]

For every cult there's a documentary. Lots of them are pretty harmless imo.

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[Humberto]

Except this one you can't see your family if you decide you want to leave. You aren't allowed telly or radio. Can't go to University etc. Loads of weird rules. You are only allowed to work for Exclusive Brethren businesses.

 

[frogwoman]

Except this one you can't see your family if you decide you want to leave. You aren't allowed telly or radio. Can't go to University etc. Loads of weird rules. You are only allowed to work for Exclusive Brethren businesses.

I dunno about work but they aren't allowed to eat at the same table as non believers so the kids have to go into another room to eat food at school. Wtf.

 

[8ball]

Well, they wouldn't be very Exclusive if they mucked in with everyone else.

 

[frogwoman]

Well, they wouldn't be very Exclusive if they mucked in with everyone else.

It's weird coz they have a modern looking website that presents them as just another church and goes into detail about all the charitable things they're doing in the community, it almost looks like they want to become a big "faith based provider" of services the government provided before. My mum said last night that my grandad, who was a christian himself, rejected the whole thing as ridiculous and had a sense of humour about it.

 

[8ball]

It's weird coz they have a modern looking website that presents them as just another church and goes into detail about all the charitable things they're doing in the community, it almost looks like they want to become a big "faith based provider" of services the government provided before. My mum said last night that my grandad, who was a christian himself, rejected the whole thing as ridiculous and had a sense of humour about it.

I looked at the Ofsted report of the little school they have on a local industrial estate and it did say a few things about how they encourage 'community involvement' in their pupils. Which is interesting since barely anyone seems to know the school exists.

 

[frogwoman]

Yeah they hate television and think it comes from the devil

 

[butchersapron]

Yeah they hate television and think it comes from the devil

Many people on here think similar. It's just not said religiously.

 

[8ball]

Yeah they hate television and think it comes from the devil

It's not just television but anything involving radio waves from what I've heard - apparently some verse in Revelation mentions Satan's 'voice on the wind' or similar and they've taken an interesting choice of interpretation.

 

[frogwoman]

Many people on here think similar. It's just not said religiously.

Yeah I don't understand that, you're denying yourself a great source of entertainment!

 

[8ball]

Yeah I don't understand that, you're denying yourself a great source of entertainment!

Same is true for people who don't play videogames - horses for courses, innit.

 

[frogwoman]

Same is true for people who don't play videogames - horses for courses, innit.

Yeah I don't like most video games but I don't think there's anything "evil" about them.

 

[frogwoman]

Its true what butchersapron says btw, some people here have a weird attitude to the tv

 

[8ball]

Its true what butchersapron says btw, some people here have a weird attitude to the tv

There's always been a bit of a middle-class affectation that saying you don't watch TV must mean you're more cultured and intelligent.
I hardly watch any telly but the freed up time is largely taken up with videogames and arseing about on 'tinternet so it's bollocks at least some of the time.

 

[frogwoman]

There's always been a bit of a middle-class affectation that saying you don't watch TV must mean you're more cultured and intelligent.
I hardly watch any telly but the freed up time is largely taken up with videogames and arseing about on 'tinternet so it's bollocks at least some of the time.

I don't have a TV but I watch TV on the internet, we don't have one where we live because we dont have the money and i don't think anyone I live with is that arsed about it, but if there was one in the living room I'd watch it if I wasn't disturbing anyone else.

 

[frogwoman]

The bit of the documentary I saw last night had one of the priests going on about barcodes 8ball

It's very weird to hear someone talking bout the devil in such a matter of fact way like they were on about work or something.

 

[frogwoman]

it was well weird.
"so where you see the devil's influence?" asks the researcher, a bit cautious and trying not to sound like he thinks they're mad
"Well, the devil's influence is everywhere, on TV, in the media" a bit like hes talking about rooms in a house that need re-doing and how much it will cost or something

 

[DotCommunist]

Its true what butchersapron says btw, some people here have a weird attitude to the tv

my brother often states proudly that he doesn't have a TV like he's some sort of high culture sort when actually he just smokes weed and plays motown on the keyboard instead

 

[frogwoman]

Well, they wouldn't be very Exclusive if they mucked in with everyone else.

Dont they realise that that will make the kids get bullied though?

 

[TruXta]

Dont they realise that that will make the kids get bullied though?

Easier to keep them in the flock that way.

 

[frogwoman]

Easier to keep them in the flock that way.

 

[8ball]

Dont they realise that that will make the kids get bullied though?

Even back when I was in school there were a few kids with odd lunchtime rituals. Plus, I imagine they look out for each other.

 

[frogwoman]

Even back when I was in school there were a few kids with odd lunchtime rituals. Plus, I imagine they look out for each other.

If i was a teacher, it would be a bit concerning though if they were being banned from certain lessons like IT etc

 

[danny la rouge]

Same is true for people who don't play videogames - horses for courses, innit.

I don't play video games. I don't think they're the work of the Devil, just not interesting or fun. Like stamp collecting.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

I don't play video games. I don't think they're the work of the Devil, just not interesting or fun. Like stamp collecting.

I'll play them at other peoples houses. It just doesn't seem interesting enough to do for hours upon hours. I like killing things for a while, but it would be odd to do it daily. But again, not the work of the devil.