What, no Stakeknife thread?* (Operation Kenova)

[A380]

Please cculd a passing mod merge this with the older thread? I’ve quoted above^^^

editor Lazy Llama thanks .

 

[A380]

Please cculd a passing mod merge this with the older thread? I’ve quoted above^^^

editor Lazy Llama thanks .

Thanks Lazy Llama

 

[Aladdin]

Please cculd a passing mod merge this with the older thread? I’ve quoted above^^^

editor Lazy Llama thanks .

This thread title does not actually refer to Kenova.

Maybe the thread title could be edited to show that the thread includes Kenova.??

Lazy Llama A380

Can the KENOVA REPORT be added to the thread title please?

 

[Aladdin]

Kenova report: Many families whose loved ones killed by IRA’s ‘nutting squad’ still feel shunned

Report shows failings of state agents who put lives at risks and exposes ‘maverick culture’ in British intelligence

www.irishtimes.com

 

[Aladdin]

 

[Aladdin]

The Kenova Report is massively redemptive for VICTIMS families.
it is necessary that the KENOVA Report isn't hidden away in thread about only one person and not the SYSTEM that damaged 100s of families.

 

[spitfire]

This thread title does not actually refer to Kenova.

Maybe the thread title could be edited to show that the thread includes Kenova.??

Lazy Llama A380

Can the KENOVA REPORT be added to the thread title please?

Report the OP and ask as above in Reason for report, sure someone will get round to it.

 

[Aladdin]

Report the OP and ask as above in Reason for report, sure someone will get round to it.

Thanks.
Done that.

 

[Idris2002]

The mind boggles if this was MI5's way of getting to him originally. Did they have a horse who has since been issued with an OBE for services rendered? Or perhaps a livery yard used to groom possible informants.

Apparently it's not clear if his proclivities always lay in that direction. According to today's Irish Times he was a "walk-in" who volunteered to tout for MI5, apparently inspired by a row in which a fellow 'ra man had battered him. He was initially looking for the money, but did take it later on.a

Oh, and I agree with Aladdin about the thread title.

 

[Aladdin]

Thanks to the mods for sorting the thread title.
Lazy Llama

 

[kenny g]

Apparently it's not clear if his proclivities always lay in that direction. According to today's Irish Times he was a "walk-in" who volunteered to tout for MI5, apparently inspired by a row in which a fellow 'ra man had battered him. He was initially looking for the money, but did take it later on.a

Oh, and I agree with Aladdin about the thread title.

Doesn't tell us the cause of the ra row though. May well have been he had eyes on the other's horse.

 

[Idris2002]

Doesn't tell us the cause of the ra row though. May well have been he had eyes on the other's horse.

Where are you going, with your fetlocks blowing?

 

[kenny g]

Where are you going, with your fetlocks blowing?

First for everything. Had to look that one up.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

First for everything. Had to look that one up.

That can’t be the first time you’ve looked something up?

 

[kenny g]

That can’t be the first time you’ve looked something up?

Nope. Why would it be? Spangled again??

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Nope. Why would it be? Spangled again??

Just wondered why you said “first for everything”.

 

[kenny g]

Just wondered why you said “first for everything”.

It was the first time I had come across the expression "fetlocks blowing". Fetlocks appear to be a particularly intricate part of horses legs anatomy that I wasn't previously aware of. New Scrabble word though.

 

[DotCommunist]

A Bodyguard of Lies - DRB

Review Stakeknife’s Dirty War and The Padre

drb.ie

Interesting and related

 

[TopCat]

Billy Wright likely a controlled operative for the UK.
I recollect being in awe at the INLA ending him. Spotlight: UVF 'knew Billy Wright was a state agent'

 

[two sheds]

Hundreds of pages of files providing "new investigative leads" found by MI5

MI5’s posthumous discovery of Stakeknife files alarms inquiry chief

Release of intelligence year after death ‘casts doubt’ on security service’s previous claims about British spy in IRA accused of murders

www.theguardian.com

The police chief investigating murders allegedly carried out by Freddie Scappaticci, a British agent in the IRA known as Stakeknife, has expressed alarm that hundreds of pages of files providing “new investigative leads” have been found by MI5 a year after Scappaticci’s death.

Sir Iain Thomas Livingstone, a former head of Police Scotland who leads Operation Kenova, has written to the Northern Ireland secretary of state to highlight the troubling timing and warn that the new intelligence raises questions about MI5’s previous claims of knowledge about Stakeknife.
...
The belated disclosures from the internal Security Service come weeks before the introduction of the controversial legacy act which will close down inquests and limit investigations into crimes related to the Troubles in Northern Ireland, including by those working for the British state.

 

[Artaxerxes]

We don’t have a good general Northern Ireland thread but this seems an appropriate place to put this.

Murder weapon discovered in Imperial War Museum display

An assault rifle used in seven unsolved murders has been discovered on public display at the Imperial War Museum.

www.bbc.com

The families of the murder victims had previously been told by the police that they had disposed of the weapon.

A senior officer says the Police Service of Northern Ireland fully supports an investigation into its history.

Forensic tests conducted in the 1990s showed the rifle was one of two weapons used in an attack on a Belfast betting shop in 1992.

Five Catholics, including a 15-year-old boy, were killed in the attack on the Ormeau Road by Protestant paramilitaries.

 

[rasputin]

There is a really interesting discussion involving Eliza Manningham-Buller (former DG of MI5) on the Rest Is Politics podcast here.

She says that MI5 wasn't the agency that ran Stakeknife operationally. They became involved after he was exposed and needed to be resettled. She describes the operation as "disgraceful" and says the agents running him were "not properly trained" and lacked rules and discipline.

 

[Pickman's model]

There is a really interesting discussion involving Eliza Manningham-Buller (former DG of MI5) on the Rest Is Politics podcast here.

She says that MI5 wasn't the agency that ran Stakeknife operationally. They became involved after he was exposed and needed to be resettled. She describes the operation as "disgraceful" and says the agents running him were "not properly trained" and lacked rules and discipline.

it's well known that mi5 wasn't that agency that ran stakeknife, he was run by the force research unit, part of the army (see eg Stakeknife: Prosecutors decide not to charge final 12 people)