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*What book are you reading? (part 2)

the recent Barney Hoskyns one. Actually, I've got that and Age of Extremes by Eric Hobsbawm next to my bed vying for my attention and I couldn't face either of them last night. I think I'm in a particularly thick mode.

Heh - I get like that sometimes

Didn't know there was a newer one
 
Didn't know there was a newer one

it got reviewed as the 'definitive' one and it's quite hefty. A lot of it is taken up with Hoskyns' reactions to how tightly Waits and Brennan guard his profile, blocking interviews and getting other people to clam up, stuff like that...
 
Finished The Pursuit of Love, which was beastly fun but not much cop as a novel.

Now, I don't know, maybe The Damned Utd.

Actually, I've got that and Age of Extremes by Eric Hobsbawm next to my bed vying for my attention

Give it up -- everyone's got a copy, no one's read it :D
 
A lot of it is taken up with Hoskyns' reactions to how tightly Waits and Brennan guard his profile, blocking interviews and getting other people to clam up, stuff like that...

Oooo interesting

I'm always frustrated by that as a fan - I've wanted more info on how Waits and Brennan work together for ages now, but apart from a few sparse words on the subject, there's nowt
 
Oooo interesting

I'm always frustrated by that as a fan - I've wanted more info on how Waits and Brennan work together for ages now, but apart from a few sparse words on the subject, there's nowt

sewn up very fucking tight. She obviously saved his ass and made him totally revise the way he made his music, but they probably don't want her to be perceived as a big controlling influence cos it would fuck with the Waits "mythos", so I guess that's why it's so closely guarded.
 
really? :D

i just feel like I need to get ONE volume of 20th century history under my belt and this seems like the one to do..

i fell asleep reading the introduction :D

Oh yes. It's the Brief History of Time of the humanities.

And we all bought it for the same reason you did :D

I got to about page 50 I think. As with all these things, I just know I won't remember more than a couple of minor facts after the whole thing's over. "Erm, there was something about the Malays in the 50s I think. It was Britain's fault"

:(
 
Oh yes. It's the Brief History of Time of the humanities.

And we all bought it for the same reason you did :D

I got to about page 50 I think. As with all these things, I just know I won't remember more than a couple of minor facts after the whole things over. "Erm, there was something about the Malays in the 50s I think. It was Britain's fault"

:(

i'm glad it's not just me. I mean, i was good at history, had a passion for it, all that. But I just don't retain information any more :(

So in summary: who WERE the baddies? :confused:
 
i'm glad it's not just me. I mean, i was good at history, had a passion for it, all that. But I just don't retain information any more :(

So in summary: who WERE the baddies? :confused:

I just comfort myself with the fact that the pleasure to be had is contemporaneous with the reading. And that I know where to go if I need to know who the baddies were :)
 
Lonely Werewolf Girl by Martin Millar.

I loved Love and Peace with Melody Paradise, but I'm yet to be convinced by this one :hmm:
 
Lonely Werewolf Girl by Martin Millar.

I loved Love and Peace with Melody Paradise, but I'm yet to be convinced by this one :hmm:

i loved all the early ones - Lux, Alby Starvation etc - but I think they all got a bit TOO twee and formulaic.
 
i loved all the early ones - Lux, Alby Starvation etc - but I think they all got a bit TOO twee and formulaic.

I quite enjoy the storyline in this - werewolves and other supernatural creatures in a modern world. It's overdone, but can still be entertaining.

But the sentence structure's really weird and simplistic, like a sixteen year old would write. I don't know whether it's a deliberate stylistic thing, but I'm finding it grating :(
 
i think that's my problem with him as a rule, he's just not a very good writer, even though sometimes his characters and narratives are fun
 
Lonely Werewolf Girl by Martin Millar.

I loved Love and Peace with Melody Paradise, but I'm yet to be convinced by this one :hmm:

I did my dissertation on Ruby and the Stone Age Diet

I got in touch with him, and he was absolutely lovely, very generous and said he'd help in any way he could :cool:
 
sewn up very fucking tight. She obviously saved his ass and made him totally revise the way he made his music, but they probably don't want her to be perceived as a big controlling influence cos it would fuck with the Waits "mythos", so I guess that's why it's so closely guarded.

Aye - that was my guess too. I'd love to know more about her herself though
 
It's worth reading the final chapter of 'The Age of Extremes'. Some of his conclusions have proved to be quite prophetic. The bits in between that and the introduction do drag a bit though!
 
I did my dissertation on Ruby and the Stone Age Diet

I got in touch with him, and he was absolutely lovely, very generous and said he'd help in any way he could :cool:

I've met him and he is a lovely bloke-I adore his books-consider them fairy tales for adults. I read a wide range of literature and sometimes you want a bloody detective/murder novel, sometimes something utterly beautifully clever and thought provoking and sometimes a book about a crustie fairy or werewolf to read in an hour or two and enjoy. Tis like music-depending on your mood, anything can be beautiful and thank god for Martin Millar when I was younger and I had never seen a book featuring crusties or whatever without a sobering end:cool: Far prefer them to the sodding 'so well written ' Booker nominated books about middle class families and their boring affairs. I feel more akin to a werewolf than that way of life ...
 
i read the good fairies of new york. never again.

Well, each to their own innit? Books are like music-everyone has their own taste which might or might not develop and change over the years-I loathe sci-fi and romance, both of which can have excellent authors:)
 
Corax, is that a genuine accusation you are making? It seems a little unfair to generalise in such a manner and I wonder what has made you feel thus?

The elitism that surround this thread sickens me. It's a perpetual stream of oh, I've read this book and I've read this one that excludes anyone that doesn't read books.
 
That's exactly the unpleasant sneering attitude I'm talking about.
:rolleyes:

The elitism that surround this thread sickens me. It's a perpetual stream of oh, I've read this book and I've read this one that excludes anyone that doesn't read books.

If that's what you really think, then I'm sorry you feel excluded

This thread, for me, has been a fantastic source of other writers and books, and is all about one of the most important things in my life.

I have seen no elitism, not a fucking jot tbh, and the 'oh i've read this book' is all about it being a fucking 'what book are you reading' thread, you thick cunt
 
The elitism that surround this thread sickens me. It's a perpetual stream of oh, I've read this book and I've read this one that excludes anyone that doesn't read books.

The thread is dedicated to discussing books that people have read and enjoyed, hated, cried over or abandoned in frustration.

If your objection is to the fact of articulating this process then this thread may not be for you.

Or could it be that the manner in which people choose to articulate their engagement with books annoys you? That you find the language used elitist or exclusive?

Genuine questions.

:)
 
Or could it be that the manner in which people choose to articulate their engagement with books annoys you? That you find the language used elitist or exclusive?

Genuine questions.

:)

Genuine questions, genuine answers.

Yes, the manner people choose to articulate on this thread pisses me off. It seems to be a constant competition to see who can use the longest words. I really hope you don't protest as you have been by far the worst offender.

Do I find the 'language used elitist or exclusive'? I think so, but as most of the words you've used aren't readily understood it's a bit hard to tell? :rolleyes:
 
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