N_igma
Epistemic nuisance
Ha I'm not discrediting it I think it's a great book by a great author but it is not without its faults.
Also I genuinely want to know how dreamshit is pronounced lol.
*What book are you reading? (part 2)
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Ha I'm not discrediting it I think it's a great book by a great author but it is not without its faults.
Also I genuinely want to know how dreamshit is pronounced lol.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Dream shit of course
No, but I made a bit of a cunt of myself hahaNo need to apologise at all. I could tell you genuinely didn't think it was a word, and you were not a cunt about it or anything.
It is because of the binary that labels like ''cis'' and ''trans'' exist. If you have ''man'', ''women'' we then require those other labels. It is because of the binary we now have labels like ''genderqueer'', ''trans*'' and a zillion others. I wish we didn't have the binary. If I am attracted to non-binary identified people I am ''skoliosexual'', yet funny how ''straight'' doesn't get called ''a label'', right?
Anyway, the labels I was on about mostly, were the terms, those feminist terms like ''ecofeminism'', ''lipstick feminism'', ''loophole women'' ''bimbo feminism'', ''sex-positive'' and so on...
Do you not think we need any labels at all then?
Innit? She gave the reason that she grew up in what she experienced as a brutal environment, and couldn't see any value in left wing politics. That her experience was far outside of it all. That Thatcher's ideas of individual aspiration more closely matched her own.
She came from a working-class background, from a place called Accrington up North. Struggled throughout school, had an insane mother, suffered terrible trauma over being gay and the consequences of that in a place like Accrington (and the church, which she was closely involved with), and worked her fucking arse off to get into Oxford. She also likes gardening because it's relaxing. I don't think you can just write her off with a sneer without knowing her background.doesn't surprise me that she voted lib dem - Stone Gods had a distinct current of liberal/green misanthropy from what I remember and an organic farmer hero.
I looked at her wiki page just now - Oxford uni, OBE, and she turned a terrace house into an organic food shop
I don't think I questioned her work ethic, enjoyment of gardening or her background at all and I don't think the fuller picture of Jeanette Winterson that you've given me really contradicts anything much in my post.
I interpreted her novel Stone Gods as having a particular sort of politics expressed in it and a glance at wikipedia suggested to me that those views I read in her fiction were quite likely her own views, which is why it didn't surprise me to learn what party she supports.
I'd also disagree that I wrote her off on the basis of having an OBE and an organic shop - I read her book, didn't much like it, but don't particularly care about who she votes for and why or anything else about her for that matter. It wouldn't (and didn't) stop me reading her novel.
You wrote: "I don't think you can just write her off with a sneer without knowing her background."
Now I'd grant you that their might have been more than a hint of a sneer in my post, but I'm sure you're saying in that sentence that I'd written her off which is why I disagreed that I'd written her off
little_legs
Поехали!
City of Bohane by Kevin Barry
It's 2053, we are in the west of Ireland, and there is trouble brewing among the feuding gangs.
I usually avoid anything that's set in future, but this is just brilliant. It's not often that you read a book and think to yourself, wait, the true hero of the book is writer's language. Well, City of Bohane, is that book. Kevin Barry, take a bow, your language is like a song of a mad genius, it's original, imaginative and piercing at the same time.
It's 2053, we are in the west of Ireland, and there is trouble brewing among the feuding gangs.
I usually avoid anything that's set in future, but this is just brilliant. It's not often that you read a book and think to yourself, wait, the true hero of the book is writer's language. Well, City of Bohane, is that book. Kevin Barry, take a bow, your language is like a song of a mad genius, it's original, imaginative and piercing at the same time.
TruXta
tired
I got half-way into that, dunno why I stopped tbh. As you say, excellent writing.
TruXta
tired
It's not sci-fi at all - in fact it's more like an alternative history thing. At least I can't remember there being anything particularly futuristic about it.Frances Lengel this might be another SciFi without spacewank for you.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Apart from it being set in 2053
TruXta
tired
Which doesn't mean it's futuristic or sci-fi.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I reckon if it's set in the future, it's sci-fi. Tis a broad church.
TruXta
tired
Just shut up will you. Moron.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
What's up with you tonight?
I am correct. Science-fiction tends to be set in the future.
IIRC it's the type of thing set a possible future which would appeal anyway.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
dream shit
its the thing those horrible nightmare moths crap out like silk to feed their young, but also keeps humans proper spangled if they eat it. Recall how isaac feeds his stunted moth thing with it and then it turns into a full scale bastard monster
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
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TruXta
tired
Except for when they're set in the past or present.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
And how does this invalidate what I said?
TruXta
tired
You said "if it's set in the future it's sci-fi", which is blatant bollocks. If a novel is set in 2016 is it sci-fi? Think before you open your breadhole.
MellySingsDoom
Decimated by the shrapnel of his rhetoric
Am currently waiting for this one to read - a music-based book by journalist Neil Kulkarni: http://www.zero-books.net/books/eastern-spring-a-2nd-gen-memoir
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Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
If it is about an imagined future in 2053, I would count it as sci fi.
Why are you rude to me, Truxta?
It's hardly a controversial point.
TruXta
tired
So I did. Fog for brains just lately. As you were!You wrote: "I don't think you can just write her off with a sneer without knowing her background."
Now I'd grant you that their might have been more than a hint of a sneer in my post, but I'm sure you're saying in that sentence that I'd written her off which is why I disagreed that I'd written her off
Started and finished The Daylight Gate by herself anyway last night, and loved it. Very short read, liked what she did with the Pendle witch trials.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
What's wrong? You're being rather objectionable
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