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They're insisting on sending an engineer out anyway. The sales chap got quite excited explaining the better "router" I'd get, sounded quite confused when I told him I use my own.

Guess I should probably upgrade a TV to 4k to make the most of it.
 
UnderAnOpenSky said:
I game at the PC, I've actually got 4k monitor, but the 1440p one is nicer in other ways. Think I'd need to buy a Shield anyway.
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yeah I need a shield for the 4k 60fps, wont be able to afford it the end until next month where I will be getting one as an early birthday present to myself.

1440p on it looks lush though.
 
I don't think the Shield can do 1440p - you have to choose between 1080 and 4k. I have one connected to a 1440p screen and it just scales up the 1080 feed (I think?).
 
Virgin contract is up in July but have had the price rise letter so will when I have the energy use this to try and lock in for another 18 months at the same or better price.

Vodafone are in my area and look cheaper.
 
MBV said:
Virgin contract is up in July but have had the price rise letter so will when I have the energy use this to try and lock in for another 18 months at the same or better price.

Vodafone are in my area and look cheaper.
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I got a huge saving last time, so worth pushing. Mind you the time before they would hardly budge.
 
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RoyReed said:
You can with Zen Internet - "Broadband from Zen is both IPv4 and IPv6 compatible, and we provide static IP addresses as standard with all our broadband services."
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Good to know for future, thank you.

No useful for me at the moment, as I'd have to buy out of the Virgin contract, it's slower and I'm really not sure the state of this houses wiring for Openreach, it look pretty knacked.
 
UnderAnOpenSky said:
I got the dreaded email that as off Monday, the office will be my normal place of work. The owner is open to home working, but I need to get a static IP and of course I can't get that on a domestic package. :rolleyes:

So looking at their business lines. Would mean moving up to 350mbs, which of course I can live with, but also taking my line rental from £21 to £47 a month. Owch.
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My Virgin IP address never changed unless they changed the router, or they had to do some work in the cab. I even turned my router off for a week once while on holiday and it still renewed with the same IP. I think I had that IP for about 3 years until they upgraded my router.

Anyway point being, why do you need a static, and how much work is involved to tell them "My IP has changed" Can they not use some sort of DDNS system to know it's you. What's wrong with VPNs?

Lastly, if your work want you to have a static IP, make them pay for it, or at least contribute the price difference.
 
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cybershot said:
My Virgin IP address never changed unless they changed the router, or they had to do some work in the cab. I even turned my router off for a week once while on holiday and it still renewed with the same IP. I think I had that IP for about 3 years until they upgraded my router.

Anyway point being, why do you need a static, and how much work is involved to tell them "My IP has changed" Can they not use some sort of DDNS system to know it's you. What's wrong with VPNs?

Lastly, if your work want you to have a static IP, make them pay for it, or at least contribute the price difference.
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I don't really get to negotiate on this one. It's basically you're back in the office five days a week unless you have a static IP. I'm not really sure of his grand masterplan. I know he wants to move our clients away from using so many desktops VMs and us as well. Apparently it's lieu of 2FA for some custom app he wants us to use more.

Even if I only get one day a week (and hoping for more), it's well worth it for the time I get back each day as well as the fuel.
 
UnderAnOpenSky said:
I don't really get to negotiate on this one. It's basically you're back in the office five days a week unless you have a static IP. I'm not really sure of his grand masterplan. I know he wants to move our clients away from using so many desktops VMs and us as well. Apparently it's lieu of 2FA for some custom app he wants us to use more.

Even if I only get one day a week (and hoping for more), it's well worth it for the time I get back each day as well as the fuel.
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This just sounds like a power trip to be honest. Who does he outsource his HR too? He might want to get a bit more clued up that you can't just make up rules as you go along. Even if a small company. Join a union and properly give him the shits.
 
cybershot said:
This just sounds like a power trip to be honest. Who does he outsource his HR too? He might want to get a bit more clued up that you can't just make up rules as you go along. Even if a small company. Join a union and properly give him the shits.
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:D

I'm not sure he does. Anyway whilst I might have gone down this route in past jobs, not quite 5 months into my first IT role, I'm not going to rock the boat that much just yet.
 
So a BT person is doing door to door ...
Apparently I can get 36 meg fibre from the pole opposite for half what I'm paying for my shitty Virgin. with noisy coax ..

£28 a month
A fiver extra should I want phone ... - I would probably do better with spending that on mobile data / credit ...

I imagine the fibre modem is likely to be installed just inside my door - or will they leave slack so I can run it upstairs ?

I won't allow an engineer in any further than that ... even my hallway is probably a hard hat area ...

This morning's blip was at 9.30 ...

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gentlegreen said:
So a BT person is doing door to door ...
Apparently I can get 36 meg fibre from the pole opposite for half what I'm paying for my shitty Virgin. with noisy coax ..

£28 a month
A fiver extra should I want phone ... - I would probably do better with spending that on mobile data / credit ...

I imagine the fibre modem is likely to be installed just inside my door - or will they leave slack so I can run it upstairs ?

I won't allow an engineer in any further than that ... even my hallway is probably a hard hat area ...

This morning's blip was at 9.30 ...

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I'm guessing your not getting fiber to the premises? In which case it will just come down a normal BT line assuming you still have the wireing.

Edit. Your paying them over £50 a month! Do you not negotiate or something?
 
gentlegreen said:
I don't need more than their basic package - so perhaps it will be new copper from the pole ... the canvassers didn't appear to be engineers ..

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I'd check there isn't an extra instalation fee. Maybe worth having it more central then the front door if you use WiFi through the house for devices, unless you have your own networking kit.
 
skyscraper101 said:
Powerline adaptors would almost definitely be cheaper though. Are they known for being unreliable? What about a Mesh network?
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Each unit needs to be on the same ring main to perform properly. It would be very unusual for a socket two floors up to be on the same ring as one on the ground floor.

If cabling inside is too messy, drill through the wall to the outside on both floors and clip an external grade Cat5e up the outside wall.
 
UnderAnOpenSky said:
I'd check there isn't an extra instalation fee. Maybe worth having it more central then the front door if you use WiFi through the house for devices, unless you have your own networking kit.
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I currently run coax to my kit upstairs..
I will have to leave it a month or two so I can prepare a little ...

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UnderAnOpenSky said:
That makes me feel some what better about my cabling.

Why coax out of intrest and not cat 5a/6?
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oldschool virgin was coax to the modem and TV box and I used to be based at the back of the house and it suits me to have all my kit upstairs where I currently live ... so there was plenty of coax to make the move ...

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I suppose I need to find a way to ask them what the minimum they need is for an install in terms of wall etc ...

I'm guessing it IS fibre to house and existing BT users will be getteing upgraded so they want to do everything at the same time
 
gentlegreen said:
So a BT person is doing door to door ...
Apparently I can get 36 meg fibre from the pole opposite for half what I'm paying for my shitty Virgin. with noisy coax ..

£28 a month
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36 meg at £28/month happens to be their Fibre To The Cabinet package, so unless their full fibre offering is identical I think the sales person is being generous with their definitions.
 
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