vanessa beeley

[Toast Rider]

I'd previously thought Chris was one of the good guys, his defences of corbyn in the media seemed impressive and coherent. Having just seen this tweet on my account I was pretty dismayed. For this more familiar, I'd appreciate learning why you consider him odious. If that's not a thread crap.

Aside from defending pro Assad bollocks of course

 

[butchersapron]

So that's now 2/3 of the Red Pepper Editorial collective happy to appear on platforms/at meetings with these clowns.

 

[rekil]

Not a peep from Novara thus far. Not even a Hitchens retweet which is usual extent of their Syria content. First test for new official voice of youth, Ash "literally a communist" Sarkar, but if her predecessor can survive backing a weirdo with a big swastika tattoo, she'll get through this unscathed.

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[Toast Rider]

Hopefully other Labour MP's know this is bollocks, right?

I mean I know Galloway (supporter of Corbyn at least, vocal twat at most) does. But hopefully not someone like McDonnell.

 

[Toast Rider]

Not a peep from Novara thus far. Not even a Hitchens retweet which is usual extent of their Syria content. First test for new official voice of youth, Ash "literally a communist" Sarkar, but if her predecessor can survive backing a weirdo with a big swastika tattoo, she'll get through this unscathed.

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Wait what?

Who are you referring to as her predecessor, and the weirdo with the tattoo?

I like Ash she seems gutsy and quite well read. Not so sure about the rest of them, and they don't defend labour very well (because when they do they constantly admit the thing they are defending Labour against)

 

[Pickman's model]

Hopefully other Labour MP's know this is bollocks, right?

I mean I know Galloway (supporter of Corbyn at least, vocal twat at most) does. But hopefully not someone like McDonnell.

i think you'll find galloway is famously not a labour mp.

 

[rekil]

Wait what?

Who are you referring to as her predecessor, and the weirdo with the tattoo?

I like Ash she seems gutsy and quite well read. Not so sure about the rest of them, and they don't defend labour very well (because when they do they constantly admit the thing they are defending Labour against)

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[Toast Rider]

i think you'll find galloway is famously not a labour mp.

Of course, that's why I said 'at least'. He's a very famous pro Corbynite and has stated that he'd like to return to labour. So i think mentioning him has relevance

 

[butchersapron]

...and of course one of those red pepper editors has previously described chris williamson as " a great bloke - with decent politics too."

 

[Toast Rider]

So what are his politics then?

 

[Fedayn]

So that's now 2/3 of the Red Pepper Editorial collective happy to appear on platforms/at meetings with these clowns.

Anyone told articul8 yet?

 

[Jeremiah18.17]

So what are his politics then?

Package deal leftism/“Anti-imperialism” of pre 1989 vintage with added green tinge acquired over the last 20 - which accounted for his splenetic rage that the Green vote was larger than the number he lost by in the election previous to the last (when they stood down for him iirc) A person who exudes confidence that he is entitled to the votes of anyone in the left in his constituency regardless. Those kind of politics.

 

[rekil]

I shall petition The Levellers to get "reptoid_hunter" on the bill next year.

 

[Poi E]

Well yeah, the murderers probably had a plan.

 

[Toast Rider]

Package deal leftism/“Anti-imperialism” of pre 1989 vintage with added green tinge acquired over the last 20 - which accounted for his splenetic rage that the Green vote was larger than the number he lost by in the election previous to the last (when they stood down for him iirc) A person who exudes confidence that he is entitled to the votes of anyone in the left in his constituency regardless. Those kind of politics.

Thanks,but I'm not sure I really follow this. Do you have any sources I can look at. I'm not really understanding what you're accusing him of.

 

[Toast Rider]

I shall petition The Levellers to get "reptoid_hunter" on the bill next year.

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Scripted. These are the sort of idiots who think that if you get shot in the head it explodes like something out of Call of Duty

 

[rekil]

Another Huff Post piece with an emphasis on the strangeness of Williamson praising Beeley despite her sustained campaign of vilification of an MP from his own party who was shot and stabbed to death by a nazi.

Labour MP Praises Blogger Who Called Jo Cox An 'Al Qaeda Advocate'

 

[Toast Rider]

What should Labour do regarding this? I'm not aware Williamson has responded to any of this so I guess the moment of a credible 'woops, sorry, my bad' response is now past. Now it's further grist to the Corbyn is racist meme

 

[LDC]

What should Labour do regarding this? I'm not aware Williamson has responded to any of this so I guess the moment of a credible 'woops, sorry, my bad' response is now past. Now it's further grist to the Corbyn is racist meme

I just had a look through Williamson's Twitter feed, and from what I could see he's not replied to the hundreds of responses to his original tweet, although Beeley and a few of her supporters have popped up on there.

I don't think Labour can or will respond to this, partly as they won't have to as most Syria related stuff gets waved away with a dismissive 'oh it's all very complicated' response so interest will marginal anyway and will then fade very quickly, but partly as this kind of position is too central to their wider politics.

 

[butchersapron]

follow-up for those that missed it

And here a much fuller report from attendees - which handily outlines her views for those that may be just coming fresh to this thread after Chris Williamson's obscene idiocy:

Top university’s course turns out to be propaganda

The lecturer called into question all major international organizations. There was no sense in pointing to Human Rights Watch reports as Beeley said it is run by a Jewish organization called the Washington Elite.

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Beeley played a video of “Syrian terrorists” blowing up a five-story hotel. “Where is this video from? Who made it?” Uppsala University student Anna Marie asked. “It was taken by a good friend of mine,” Beeley replied.

Anna Marie asked for the friend’s name. “It does not matter. All source identifiers will be given at the end of the presentation,” Beeley said.

When Anna Marie asked about the origin of materials presented by Beeley for the third time, organizer Simons intervened.

He said he would email participants a list of Beeley’s sources. The list arrived the next day but was not exhaustive. After several requests, we were also sent the slides; however, they did not match those presented during the lecture. Beeley deleted the most slogan-like slides (including the one on the photo).

 

[rekil]

Thread here with graph explaining how Beeley's misinformation regarding the White Helmets found it's way to Trump supporters and Trump via twitter.

The person running this account is an eejit tbh. He believes Beeley represents the 'red' in the redbrown alliance of Assad supporters, says Caitlin Johnstone is 'far-left' (she's an astrologer who spent 2009-2016 posting excerpts from new age and self help shit like A Course In Miracles) and is now producing graphs of loons who've been tweeting at the Sun journo who did the Williamson piece. How does that help anything. Who gives a shit that Sun filth is getting twittered at by other filth.

 

[Toast Rider]

I just had a look through Williamson's Twitter feed, and from what I could see he's not replied to the hundreds of responses to his original tweet, although Beeley and a few of her supporters have popped up on there.

I don't think Labour can or will respond to this, partly as they won't have to as most Syria related stuff gets waved away with a dismissive 'oh it's all very complicated' response so interest will marginal anyway and will then fade very quickly, but partly as this kind of position is too central to their wider politics.

As someone above mentioned Novara, I asked them on FB and during the 'tsyky sour' livestream, what their opinion of this was. No reply as yet, I doubt they will. They have never responded to any question IME. They don't owe me shit, of course, but it would be nice.

 

[Toast Rider]

A picture is worth...

 

[Jeremiah18.17]

Looks like Peter Tatchell’s reasoning for sharing the platform was to ensure that they didn’t go unopposed. Anyhow he is now retweeting Oz K attacking the Beeley/Ford circus -

 

[rioted]

Western Liberals' support of Regime Change Now, get rid of the evil dictator has worked so well in the past.

 

[krink]

All I know about Oz Katerji is he gets hammered by the conspiracy types as a Soros beneficiary. Normally this would indicate he is sound but just wanted to check with the regulars on this thread.

 

[belboid]

American Herald Tribune - is there a nice neat summary anywhere if why it’s assadist shite?

 

[rekil]

American Herald Tribune - is there a nice neat summary anywhere if why it’s assadist shite?

I was looking it up yesterday as one of its writers, David Macilwain, posts up on a Beeleyite loon forum.

The American Herald Tribune website is registered to Tim King, who also happens to be founder of the crackpot Salem-news.com site and a contributor to the rabidly anti-Semitic Veterans Today, a hate site affiliated with none other than Veterans News Now

I don't know about its specifically pro-Assad stuff apart from a few pieces from Beeley and Bartlett. Holocaust denier Anthony Hall is its editor. Its list of columnists is a who's who of loons and 'who?'.

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Alberta Professor Who Thinks Jews ‘Behind 9/11’ Allowed to Return to Teaching

 

[belboid]

Cheers!

 

[rekil]

All I know about Oz Katerji is he gets hammered by the conspiracy types as a Soros beneficiary. Normally this would indicate he is sound but just wanted to check with the regulars on this thread.

He's literally a LibDem. In the year of our lord 2018.

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But the few pieces I've read of his are alright. His twitter is unreadable as he spends so much time beefing with 'tankies' and loons. He did a reddit ama if that's any help.