20 universities now with outbreaks. I know for a fact there are isolated cases at some that aren't mentioned here, some of which will doubtless spread.
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Steel Icarus
we move
Couple of courses sent home at my college. Sports teacher with positive test - colleagues negative. Success Coach from a totally different department spent an hour in sport the other day. Now self isolating awaiting test result tomorrow. She was in my office (for a fucking chinwag) Tuesday.
It's all so very close.
It's all so very close.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
- St Andrews – 4 cases, 40 isolating
- Edinburgh Napier – 11 cases
- Glasgow – 124 cases
- Stirling – “a student”
- Oxford Brookes - “small but growing number”
- Bath – “small number”
- Manchester Metropolitan – “a handful of confirmed cases [32?]… after ‘100-strong’ party”
- Liverpool – 80 students and 7 staff
- Swansea – 12 students
- Aberdeen (Guardian summary) - "number unconfirmed"
- Robert Gordon (Ibid) - 2
- Abertay (Ibid) - Four cases, 500 isolating
- Exeter - "small number of students tested positive"
- Queen Margaret - "A number of students isolating after one positive"
- Kent - 2 confirmed cases on campus
- Uni of West England (Bristol) - 1 student tested positive, not symptomatic
- Leeds - 6 confirmed cases
- Warwick (Ibid) - 1
- De Montfort (Leicester) (Ibid)
<edit: I know the Guardian article said 20, but I swear I counted and got 19!
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hegley
never odd or even
Gloucestershire? University of Gloucestershire students test positive for coronavirus
- St Andrews – 4 cases, 40 isolating
- Edinburgh Napier – 11 cases
- Glasgow – 124 cases
- Stirling – “a student”
- Oxford Brookes - “small but growing number”
- Bath – “small number”
- Manchester Metropolitan – “a handful of confirmed cases [32?]… after ‘100-strong’ party”
- Liverpool – 80 students and 7 staff
- Swansea – 12 students
- Aberdeen (Guardian summary) - "number unconfirmed"
- Robert Gordon (Ibid) - 2
- Abertay (Ibid) - Four cases, 500 isolating
- Exeter - "small number of students tested positive"
- Queen Margaret - "A number of students isolating after one positive"
- Kent - 2 confirmed cases on campus
- Uni of West England (Bristol) - 1 student tested positive, not symptomatic
- Leeds - 6 confirmed cases
- Warwick (Ibid) - 1
- De Montfort (Leicester) (Ibid)
<edit: I know the Guardian article said 20, but I swear I counted and got 19!
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
The ibids get confusing when the previous lines don't make reference to a source
- St Andrews – 4 cases, 40 isolating
- Edinburgh Napier – 11 cases
- Glasgow – 124 cases
- Stirling – “a student”
- Oxford Brookes - “small but growing number”
- Bath – “small number”
- Manchester Metropolitan – “a handful of confirmed cases [32?]… after ‘100-strong’ party”
- Liverpool – 80 students and 7 staff
- Swansea – 12 students
- Aberdeen (Guardian summary) - "number unconfirmed"
- Robert Gordon (Ibid) - 2
- Abertay (Ibid) - Four cases, 500 isolating
- Exeter - "small number of students tested positive"
- Queen Margaret - "A number of students isolating after one positive"
- Kent - 2 confirmed cases on campus
- Uni of West England (Bristol) - 1 student tested positive, not symptomatic
- Leeds - 6 confirmed cases
- Warwick (Ibid) - 1
- De Montfort (Leicester) (Ibid)
<edit: I know the Guardian article said 20, but I swear I counted and got 19!
Also guardian hacks can't count
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
SlideshowBob
Active Member
In light of this feel like today's government measures to support businesses aren't going to be anywhere near enough. In some areas pubs will lose out on a lot of trade due to this.
Although it's, again, one of those measures where it's sort of impossible to enforce - it's not as if non-students carry around ID which proves they're not students or anything like that. Basically relying on voluntary compliance for the most part.
Would there really be a big uproar? There must be quite a lot of students who would be glad of an excuse to do the festive season thing with their friends rather than the socially obligatory thing about going back to the parents' house. I think I had a good relationship with my parents, but even in first year, I was glad when term started again. (Even if the average student accommodation and food was much worse than at home.
) Also, they all have phones nowThen again, being ordered not to visit the family would be upsetting.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Parents up and down the country being told their kids can't come home for xmas? I can't think of anything more likely to trigger one of the largest acts of civil disobedience in history.
Now, would the government really do a silly thing like that?
felixthecat
are we there yet?
I was quite looking forward to meeting some new people but my MA I've just started is all online for the first semester. I think the whole damn thing will be online. Fortunately there aren't many practical elements ( its medical education)
Im not that bothered tbh. Online is fine by me. Because its a Masters theres of lot of self study but given the amount it costs...
Im not that bothered tbh. Online is fine by me. Because its a Masters theres of lot of self study but given the amount it costs...
Ah, I had kind of forgotten the parent/grandparent point of view. Sorry.
Probably wasn't my most carefully considered opinion ever.
SlideshowBob
Active Member
Would there really be a big uproar? There must be quite a lot of students who would be glad of an excuse to do the festive season thing with their friends rather than the socially obligatory thing about going back to the parents' house. I think I had a good relationship with my parents, but even in first year, I was glad when term started again. (Even if the average student accommodation and food was much worse than at home.
Then again, being ordered not to visit the family would be upsetting.
Depends on their situation though - lots of students who've just moved away won't get the chance to actually meet a proper group of friends if they're following the rules, because they'll be having to stay indoors. At best they'll maybe get to know a few people in their halls. And if it's people they don't particularly get along with (something more likely to happen when you're living together constantly) then they're a bit fucked.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Would there really be a big uproar? There must be quite a lot of students who would be glad of an excuse to do the festive season thing with their friends rather than the socially obligatory thing about going back to the parents' house. I think I had a good relationship with my parents, but even in first year, I was glad when term started again. (Even if the average student accommodation and food was much worse than at home.
Then again, being ordered not to visit the family would be upsetting.
Can you imagine the press? It'd be a field day of moaning crying parents going on about Christmas being ruined. It'd be unbearable.
I think I love you! You managed not to put an apostrophe into "St. Andrews".
- St Andrews – 4 cases, 40 isolating
- Edinburgh Napier – 11 cases
- Glasgow – 124 cases
- Stirling – “a student”
- Oxford Brookes - “small but growing number”
- Bath – “small number”
- Manchester Metropolitan – “a handful of confirmed cases [32?]… after ‘100-strong’ party”
- Liverpool – 80 students and 7 staff
- Swansea – 12 students
- Aberdeen (Guardian summary) - "number unconfirmed"
- Robert Gordon (Ibid) - 2
- Abertay (Ibid) - Four cases, 500 isolating
- Exeter - "small number of students tested positive"
- Queen Margaret - "A number of students isolating after one positive"
- Kent - 2 confirmed cases on campus
- Uni of West England (Bristol) - 1 student tested positive, not symptomatic
- Leeds - 6 confirmed cases
- Warwick (Ibid) - 1
- De Montfort (Leicester) (Ibid)
<edit: I know the Guardian article said 20, but I swear I counted and got 19!
miss direct
misfungled
Thanks for this.
- St Andrews – 4 cases, 40 isolating
- Edinburgh Napier – 11 cases
- Glasgow – 124 cases
- Stirling – “a student”
- Oxford Brookes - “small but growing number”
- Bath – “small number”
- Manchester Metropolitan – “a handful of confirmed cases [32?]… after ‘100-strong’ party”
- Liverpool – 80 students and 7 staff
- Swansea – 12 students
- Aberdeen (Guardian summary) - "number unconfirmed"
- Robert Gordon (Ibid) - 2
- Abertay (Ibid) - Four cases, 500 isolating
- Exeter - "small number of students tested positive"
- Queen Margaret - "A number of students isolating after one positive"
- Kent - 2 confirmed cases on campus
- Uni of West England (Bristol) - 1 student tested positive, not symptomatic
- Leeds - 6 confirmed cases
- Warwick (Ibid) - 1
- De Montfort (Leicester) (Ibid)
<edit: I know the Guardian article said 20, but I swear I counted and got 19!
Ignore me, my eyes aren't working well. I'm keeping an eye on Stirling,.
Fair point. Still, presumably there could still be social meetings of the Physics Society or the German Society or whatever in a pub (OK, not everywhere, given today's news) so long as they chatted one or two metres apart. I do see it's very far from ideal, but people have probably managed to make a couple of friends and there is that thing about getting along with people purely because of being stuck in the same shitty situation, unity in adversity sort of thing.
Not sure how far the "stay indoors" thing goes. Can people go out for a walk, at least? Or meet on the beach or in a park or whatever? Of course December weather might be a problem there. Oh no.
All stay safe from Covid-19, but die of hypothermia instead.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Any official society activity at my place has to be online until xmas. Of course they can't stop students doing their own thing outside of that.
SlideshowBob
Active Member
Fair point. Still, presumably there could still be social meetings of the Physics Society or the German Society or whatever in a pub (OK, not everywhere, given today's news) so long as they chatted one or two metres apart. I do see it's very far from ideal, but people have probably managed to make a couple of friends and there is that thing about getting along with people purely because of being stuck in the same shitty situation, unity in adversity sort of thing.
Not sure how far the "stay indoors" thing goes. Can people go out for a walk, at least? Or meet on the beach or in a park or whatever? Of course December weather might be a problem there. Oh no.
The indication up in Scotland at least right now seems to be that they're not allowed while being forced to self-isolate. And at the moment that seems to increasingly be applying to most students living in halls. Once their 14-day period is up they can do that.
But it'll still be difficult for new students to even get to know that many people. Got to wonder whether a lot of these societies will even be running at the moment, for example. Brutal stuff.
Tbf it genuinely would be pretty unpleasant for the students and their families, and a major headache for universities at a time when they're already struggling to cope.
Oh ye gods, yes!
That would be horror. The potential for sentimental stories would be amazing."Our daughter/son went to university and now not going to be allowed to come home, and the 96 years old great grandmother has only x weeks to live. You are attacking our true British family values, Mr. Johnson ... blah ... "
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
If I knew how to reference properly I wouldn't have got a 2:2
I actually edited the apostrophe out of a previous draft after clocking it on the Guardian summaryI think I love you! You managed not to put an apostrophe into "St. Andrews".
Worst bit in Scottish universities seems to be in one or two halls in Glasgow, although things seem so fast moving now that I might be very out of date.
I didn't really mean much re the Physics Society and XYZ Society etc., only that they might be a vague example of how the people might meet likeminded others in a social setting, make friends even when riotous partying is not permitted.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
I think there would definitely be uproar anyway, because it's fucking Christmas, but yeah, I do think there's a massive difference being denied something rather than choosing not to do it.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54244333?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scotland&link_location=live-reporting-story
I wouldn't fancy being stuck in a modern hall of residence.
I wouldn't fancy being stuck in a modern hall of residence.
I still think it neither completely unpleasant nor entirely unexpected.
Big problem here might be finance for universities. Renting out the halls for conferences of any kind was, I think, what happened at Easter. And summer.
hash tag
Books, not bombs
students catching virus and potentially spreading it amongst their family is one thing. Students catching virus and potentially spreading it to staff and staff going home and spreading it to their family is another and totally unacceptable. For me to isolate from Mrs Tag would be a nightmare for us, especially after playing so safe for so long.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
S"alright, they'll get to charge the students extra for the "out of contract weeks" over Christmas lockdown etc.
£££
