United Airlines violently drag passenger off overbooked flight

[Yossarian]

Does anyone else smell a smear campaign?

All these articles have appeared in the last hour.

United passenger traded drugs for gay sex with patient | Daily Mail Online

http://nypost.com/2017/04/11/doctor-dragged-off-flight-convicted-of-trading-drugs-for-sex/

Reports: Doc taken off United jet has troubled past, poker skills

Doc pulled from United flight previously convicted of drug crimes

What?! That Beaten United Airlines Passenger Was Previously Convicted For Illegally Writing Prescriptions In Exchange For Sex!

Coincidentally the Mail article is by a Louiseville based hack.

United hasn't addressed Dao's past, think the media may have just Googled for a Dr David Dao in Kentucky.

The fact that he's a total sleazebag doesn't let United off the hook though, at least this will show United and other airlines that they shouldn't pull shit like forcing people off planes for no good reason because you never know if it might turn out to be somebody as disturbed as Dr Dao.

 

[squirrelp]

Seems this was an illegal removal. The rule they had quoted allows them to prevent boarding but not remove a customer who had already boarded.

United Airlines Cites Wrong Rule For Illegally De-Boarding Passenger

 

[editor]

Seems this was an illegal removal. The rule they had quoted allows them to prevent boarding but not remove a customer who had already boarded.

United Airlines Cites Wrong Rule For Illegally De-Boarding Passenger

That looks to be a fairly comprehensive pwnage of United. Good.

 

[skyscraper101]

United hasn't addressed Dao's past, think the media may have just Googled for a Dr David Dao in Kentucky.

I just find it interesting that almost in complete synchronicity a bunch or smear articles seemed to appear in the NY post, Daily Mail, Chicago Sun, Perez Hilton.com...and various other rags, about this mans past, which no matter how true, are completely unrelated to the story, but nevertheless conveniently serve to discredit his character.

Doesn't take a huge leap to imagine a few grand bunged here and there to the right publicists, can buy a bit of favourable media for the United side. In the grand scheme of things this is just pennies they'd be spending compared to the share price drop and potential upcoming lawsuit.

 

[DotCommunist]

oh you see exactly the same thing, sychronized, every time a copper kills someone innocent. We saw it with tomlinson, we saw it with duggan etc etc

the mail is the go to rag for a smear-a-thon. I bet they were cheering on ched evans

 

[Yossarian]

I just find it interesting that almost in complete synchronicity a bunch or smear articles seemed to appear in the NY post, Daily Mail, Chicago Sun, Perez Hilton.com...and various other rags, about this mans past, which no matter how true, are completely unrelated to the story, but nevertheless conveniently serve to discredit his character.

Doesn't take a huge leap to imagine a few grand bunged here and there to the right publicists, can buy a bit of favourable media for the United side. In the grand scheme of things this is just pennies they'd be spending compared to the share price drop and potential upcoming lawsuit.

It was just about the biggest news story that day, places like TMZ and the Daily Mail would have been all over any juicy development without any need to be encouraged by United - and the stuff about Dao's past made onto online forums, including this one, before it was in the news.

But I'm sure United will try to make the most of out Dao's seedy past - I wouldn't be surprised if their PR people or whoever were doing their best to get the patient he exploited to talk to the press.

 

[Idris2002]

United hasn't addressed Dao's past, think the media may have just Googled for a Dr David Dao in Kentucky.

The fact that he's a total sleazebag doesn't let United off the hook though, at least this will show United and other airlines that they shouldn't pull shit like forcing people off planes for no good reason because you never know if it might turn out to be somebody as disturbed as Dr Dao.

Well, it appears that they may well have got an entirely different David Dao:

 

[Yossarian]

Well, it appears that they may well have got an entirely different David Dao

Seems to be the same guy, a lawyer for the family has given a statement to the press.

 

[nogojones]

If they do have the wrong fella I hope he's sues the fuck out off all the press who spread it as well. Plus...

 

[ViolentPanda]

Contrast...fellow Nigerians refuse to let an airline handcuff and deport someone on their plane. Small victories.

Nigerians flying from Amsterdam to Lagos stop the deportation of a Nigerian in cuffs (photos, videos)

Saw that on Facebook. Fucking brilliant!

 

[Treacle Toes]

Saw that on Facebook. Fucking brilliant!

I can't help but laugh when the air stewards asked one of the men to stop shouting...'Who is shouting?' 'You are shouting, not me!'

Cracked me up. Asking a Nigerian man not to shout when he actually is just talking in his everyday, albeit very loud speaking voice?

 

[SpookyFrank]

United hasn't addressed Dao's past, think the media may have just Googled for a Dr David Dao in Kentucky.

Not directly, but it wouldn't surprise me if they had some people doing homework and dropping a few hints to the press.

 

[gosub]

What's ironic now is, United will be forced into having the most thoughtful policy on overbooking, whilst passengers avoid the airline in favour of other ones who probably have an even worse record for it(though without the ABH)

 

[DexterTCN]

Looks like some serious libel.

Zelo Street: Daily Mail Libels United Passenger

 

[Ted Striker]

 

[likesfish]

Looks like some serious libel.

Zelo Street: Daily Mail Libels United Passenger

I hope to god he sues I'm pretty sure Britsh lawyers will be flying to kentucky as we speak though probably not on united on a no win no fee basis as this seems to be a slung dunk.

 

[Gromit]

He's going to be so busy with all the people he's now able to sue.

I see the CEO has finally got on script PR wise. Waay too late to seem sincere.

 

[likesfish]

He the unitied CEO apprantly won some award for PR last month said pr association is slightly red faced about what has happened

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Looks like some serious libel.

Zelo Street: Daily Mail Libels United Passenger

Oh dear, on the day the Mail paid out at least £3million to the wife of the US president for calling her a prostitute.

 

[editor]

 

[T & P]

I was checking the thread on this story on the Airliners forum and as I suspected a number of posters, pretty much all Americans, were defending UA's actions and those of the security personnel who assaulted the man.

It's astonishing how many Americans seem to find physical assault an acceptable response to individuals who pose no danger or threat to anyone but peacefully refuse to comply with orders from the police/ security personnel.

 

[coley]

It was just about the biggest news story that day, places like TMZ and the Daily Mail would have been all over any juicy development without any need to be encouraged by United - and the stuff about Dao's past made onto online forums, including this one, before it was in the news.

But I'm sure United will try to make the most of out Dao's seedy past - I wouldn't be surprised if their PR people or whoever were doing their best to get the patient he exploited to talk to the press.

More fool them for wasting their money on smear campaigns, with the settlement coming this blokes way he will be able to retire in anonymous luxury.

 

[Crispy]

Zelo Street: Daily Mail Libels United Passenger

Looks like the seedy Dr. Dao is a different Dr. Dao. Who can say libel?

 

[editor]

Zelo Street: Daily Mail Libels United Passenger

Looks like the seedy Dr. Dao is a different Dr. Dao. Who can say libel?

I can say, "If only it were true."
No, the media did not identify the wrong David Dao as United's passenger

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

It's astonishing how many Americans seem to find physical assault an acceptable response to individuals who pose no danger or threat to anyone but peacefully refuse to comply with orders from the police/ security personnel.

Another question is: why are police even involved in the first place?

United is an airline - a civilian business providing a service to customers, for a fee. It is in no way a government organization. So when it has a customer dispute, why do police assist in a matter of civil contract?

It's like going into a restaurant, being seated, ordering a meal from the menu - and then the manager comes up and says they made too many reservations, and they need you to vacate the table.

Then, when you say 'fuck that', the manger goes outside, flags down a cop car; and the cops come into the restaurant and drag you out.

It is in no way a law enforcement issue, in either situation.

 

[pseudonarcissus]

Another question is: why are police even involved in the first place?

United is an airline - a civilian business providing a service to customers, for a fee. It is in no way a government organization. So when it has a customer dispute, why do police assist in a matter of civil contract?

It's like going into a restaurant, being seated, ordering a meal from the menu - and then the manager comes up and says they made too many reservations, and they need you to vacate the table.

Then, when you say 'fuck that', the manger goes outside, flags down a cop car; and the cops come into the restaurant and drag you out.

It is in no way a law enforcement issue, in either situation.

Maybe not in Canada, but if you trespass in somebody's restaurant in the US of course they can call the cops. There are some on here that might even claim the raison d'etre of the police is to enforce the arbitrary rules of capitalism

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Maybe not in Canada, but if you trespass in somebody's restaurant in the US of course they can call the cops. There are some on here that might even claim the raison d'etre of the police is to enforce the arbitrary rules of capitalism

Dr. Dao was trespassing on the United flight?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

It's astonishing how many Americans seem to find physical assault an acceptable response to individuals who pose no danger or threat to anyone but peacefully refuse to comply with orders from the police/ security personnel.

Sent that tube-rave vid to my colleague in New York yesterday, followed up by the party in a police station one; she could not quite get her head round how these blokes are still alive. Seems the Met might be a tad more tolerant than the NYPD.

 

[skyscraper101]

Seems the Met might be a tad more tolerant than the NYPD.

yeah they don't go around shooting up people on the London Under.....

oh

 

[squirrelp]

Another question is: why are police even involved in the first place?

United is an airline - a civilian business providing a service to customers, for a fee. It is in no way a government organization. So when it has a customer dispute, why do police assist in a matter of civil contract?

It's like going into a restaurant, being seated, ordering a meal from the menu - and then the manager comes up and says they made too many reservations, and they need you to vacate the table.

Then, when you say 'fuck that', the manger goes outside, flags down a cop car; and the cops come into the restaurant and drag you out.

It is in no way a law enforcement issue, in either situation.

The law can work differently in transportation vehicles. It can become a criminal matter to disobey the instructions of the captain.