Undercover policing enquiry

[Lurdan]

Transcriptions of the live xtweeting by the COPS campaign and Tom Fowler of today's sessions which were not livestreamed publicly.

The redacted transcript of yesterdays session, including the parts which weren't livestreamed, is up here (PDF)

And the Inquiry have put up a mere 731 exhibits relating to Bob Lambert's evidence. They do not include Lamberts witness statement to the Inquiry but do include statements by him to earlier investigations, and witness statements by a number of people about him. There are a lot of his SDS reports which in addition to the green and animal rights circles he was infiltrating also include some about Class War, Wapping etc. This page on the Inquiry site seems to link to all that have been put up so far. I think. There are other pages which link to fewer items (???). You will need to set the drop down box under 'Associated publications' to show 'All'.

 

[Lurdan]

Redacted transcript of yesterdays hearing is up here (PDF)

This morning's session is not being livestreamed. It has been left open whether this afternoon's will be.

Bob Lambert is taking enormous amounts of time to say very little. (The transcripts reflect his rambling and evasive style very well).
As a result he will not just be back tomorrow but next Tuesday as well.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Thanks for links Lurdan.

I quick flick through some of the stuff from Hackney shows that it is basically a load of gossip "An informal meeting took place at the Cricketers Pub on Northwold Road" and tedious details of "X has now moved from this squat to this squat". Y has organised a van from his work to get people to an anti-fascist demo etc etc.

I mean I do absolutely believe that a bunch of anarchists in a pub in 1987 may not have been entirely negative about someone burning down the Tory Party HQ in Stoke Newington. But it's remarkable that the massed ranks of undercover officers drinking pints in Hackney paid for with public money weren't able to get even a suggestion of who the culprit might be.

 

[Lurdan]

Transcriptions of the live xtweeting by the COPS campaign and Tom Fowler of today's sessions, which were not publicly livestreamed.

At the end of the day it was suggested tomorrows might be livestreamed.

Cops campaign have produced brief reports on Lamberts evidence on Tuesday and Wednesday

 

[Lurdan]

For those who can't get enough of this evasive lying cunt today's hearings are due to be livestreamed on the Inquiry YouTube channel

Here's the link to this morning's session. (They seem to have disabled the ability to embed it here).

 

[Pickman's model]

Thanks for links Lurdan.

I quick flick through some of the stuff from Hackney shows that it is basically a load of gossip "An informal meeting took place at the Cricketers Pub on Northwold Road" and tedious details of "X has now moved from this squat to this squat". Y has organised a van from his work to get people to an anti-fascist demo etc etc.

I mean I do absolutely believe that a bunch of anarchists in a pub in 1987 may not have been entirely negative about someone burning down the Tory Party HQ in Stoke Newington. But it's remarkable that the massed ranks of undercover officers drinking pints in Hackney paid for with public money weren't able to get even a suggestion of who the culprit might be.

they were akip under the table when the names were bandied about no doubt

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Seems that after several days of not recalling things, Bob is emphatic about not being involved with any actions or discussions relating to planting firebombs at Debenhams in 1987.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Seems that after several days of not recalling things, Bob is emphatic about not being involved with any actions or discussions relating to planting firebombs at Debenhams in 1987.

And adamant that all six witnesses who stated under oath that Bob Lambert told them about the arson plans before it happened were lying for revenge against him!

 

[Lurdan]

Transcriptions of the live xtweeting by the COPS campaign and Tom Fowler of today's sessions. Second half of the afternoon session wasn't livestreamed.

Lambert is back on Tuesday. Monday evidence from two activists 'Walter' and 'Callum'.

At one point Lambert suggested that Simon Tremaine had claimed he had said incriminatory stuff because Tremaine had been posting about him on an unnamed 'Forum'.
Tom Fowler tweeted this

Tom Fowler @tombfowler
Bob Lambert says that when he was unmasked as a #spycops officer, Simon Turmaine was posting on an internet forum about him, claims the forum had an axe to grind about him. I presume he is talking about Urban75
2:25 PM • Dec 6, 2024

How could anyone possibly imagine we have an axe to grind about this lying scumbag fucker?

 

[Orang Utan]

Has anyone but Boogie Boy been unmasked so far?

 

[Lurdan]

 

[DaveCinzano]

Transcriptions of the live xtweeting by the COPS campaign and Tom Fowler of today's sessions. Second half of the afternoon session wasn't livestreamed.

Lambert is back on Tuesday. Monday evidence from two activists 'Walter' and 'Callum'.

At one point Lambert suggested that Simon Tremaine had claimed he had said incriminatory stuff because Tremaine had been posting about him on an unnamed 'Forum'.
Tom Fowler tweeted this

How could anyone possibly imagine we have an axe to grind about this lying scumbag fucker?

Simon Turmaine - a friend of Belinda Lambert who met Lambert through her - was the ‘LooseStool’ poster on Harry's Place in 2011. He also posted a below-the-line comment on a Guardian story about Lambert. Tom is just mistakenly making the Urban75 reference - Lambert had been criticised by Harry's Place at that time in reference to his Muslim Contact Unit work.

Harry's Place » An Old Friend of Bob Lambert Speaks…

Harry's Place - Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear

web.archive.org

https://www.ucpi.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/MPS-0723084.pdf

https://www.ucpi.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/MPS-0723092.pdf

 

[DaveCinzano]

So nonsensical have Lambert's responses that in his daily reports Tom Fowler has had to resort to the shorthand of 'word salad' (and ensuing verb, adjectival and adverbial variations thereof) to summarise the meaningless, minutes-long fake answers from Slippery Bob

 

[DaveCinzano]

Evidence today from witness ‘Callum’ (identity protected), on hunt sabbing with Brixton Hunt Sabs etc. Presumably setting up prep for HN87 ‘John Lipscombe’.

 

[Lurdan]

The redacted transcripts of Lambert's appearances on Thursday and Friday are now up (PDF files).

Many of the campaign groups following the Inquiry have from the start been communicating through xtwitter (obviously including the live xtweeting from the hearings).
Some of the latter is now being mirrored to this bluesky account - The #SpyCopsBot (free the tweets!) (@spycopsbot.bsky.social) — Bluesky

 

[Lurdan]

Transcriptions of the live xtweeting by the COPS campaign and Tom Fowler of today's sessions with 'Callum' and 'Walter'. (Hunt Saboteurs and animal rights). No livestream.

 

[Lurdan]

Bob Lambert back for Day 6. His time-wasting means he's going to be back again tomorrow morning.

Today he's being questioned further about the fire bombing of Debenhams and it's aftermath. No livestream.
Transcriptions of this morning's live xtweeting by the COPS campaign and Tom Fowler.

So far he's racking up an impressive score on the Bob Lambert bingo card

 

[Lurdan]

Transcription of this afternoon's live xtweeting by the COPS campaign. (Morning is above). The link to Tom Fowlers xtweets in the post above has been updated to include the whole day.

The redacted transcript when it goes up should be interesting. Lambert is back tomorrow morning but given that they have only just got to 1988 (his deployment didn't finish until early 1989) it seems increasingly likely that he may be called back for further days.

 

[DaveCinzano]

A lot more pressing from Inquiry counsel David Barr today - showing a lot less willingness to indulge Lambert's long, meandering non-replies.

Even Mitting stepped in when Lambert tried to claim that maybe a dubious report was based on John Dines' intelligence, pointing out that he knows from reading Dones' own reports that he was restricted to south London and had no sight of the people being defamed in Lambert's reports, forcing Lambert to backtrack.

The were heavy reporting restrictions today - it seems that Lambert including some right porkers in his reports - making serious criminal allegations about specific people. The fact that there was no follow-up on these lead Barr to suggest it was all bullshit and smears. Lambert had nothing to rebut this.

Lambert has settled into a rhythm of just saying ‘whatever is in the report definitely happened, but I don't remember any of the details about how the intelligence was obtained’. Absolutely still stringing things along and trying to run the clock down.

Mitting has denied the application by the KC representing Geoff Sheppard and Paul Gravett to cross-examine Lambert.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Penny finally dropped on a person whose identity is covered by a restriction order (who is occasionally referred to as ‘He Who Must Not Be Named’) - I did a lot of digging on him during a certain time period for certain reasons, but could never get much of a handle on certain behaviour directions

 

[Lurdan]

Redacted transcript of Lambert's evidence yesterday is now up (PDF)

'Alison' writes about the experience of seeing Lambert give evidence
Imagine watching a UK ‘spy cop’ whose lies destroyed lives trying to explain it away. This is what that was like - Alison - The Guardian

Unsurprisingly Lambert's evidence is going to continue after lunch. Unclear if we will hear from Claire Hildreth (London Animal Action) who originally was supposed to be giving evidence all day.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Unclear if we will hear from Claire Hildreth (London Animal Action) who originally was supposed to be giving evidence all day.

She's being squeezed in right at the end of the day. Clearly very unimpressed by the Inquiry and its staff's treatment of non-police non-state witnesses.

Mitting threatened ‘Jessica’ - said if she didn't appear tomorrow he wouldn't hear hear evidence at all.

Earlier today some threads were drawn together - as far as the actual ALF activists were concerned, there was a single unused device (the second of two Bob Lambert had) unaccounted for. Bob, meanwhile, has been saying there was a stash of them, made by Andrew Clarke.

It is being posited that subsequent to the Debenhams plot, Lambert planted his additional device at Selfridges, and put out an ALF press release claiming responsibility.

 

[Lurdan]

Transcriptions of the live xtweeting by the COPS campaign and Tom Fowler of the 7th day of Bob Lambert's evidence.

Lambert finished at 4.30pm. There was then a delay and Claire Hildreth then gave evidence.
Transcriptions of the live xtweeting by the COPS campaign and Tom Fowler.

'What would it have taken to have stopped you deceiving women emotionally and sexually, as you in fact did?' Barr asks quite bluntly.

Lambert suggests there should have been some 'independent fully qualified medical input'...

Inquiry announces new venue and updated timetable for Tranche 2 (Phase 2) evidence hearings in January - Undercover Policing Inquiry

 

[Dystopiary]

For my mental health I've been taking a break from looking. But big thanks again DaveCinzano and Lurdan and others for keeping the thread updated.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Another Spaces on tonight hosted by Tom Fowler:

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‘Jessica’ scheduled for the whole day tomorrow from 10am...

 

[Lurdan]

Most of today's hearing with 'Jessica' will apparently be livestreamed (audio only). Due to begin 10.10-10.15am. Inquiry YouTube channel here.

YouTube link to this mornings session here.

 

[Lurdan]

Apart from one short section all of 'Jessica''s evidence was audiostreamed today:

morning session link (should link to the start at 29:28)

afternoon session link (should link to the start at 30:30)

Transcriptions of the live xtweeting by the COPS campaign and Tom Fowler.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Apart from one short section all of 'Jessica''s evidence was audiostreamed today:

morning session link (should link to the start at 29:28)

afternoon session link (should link to the start at 30:30)

Transcriptions of the live xtweeting by the COPS campaign and Tom Fowler.

A lot of harrowing evidence

 

[DaveCinzano]

The end 5 minutes of the afternoon stream sums up the absolute grimness - of the programme, of the spycops themselves, of their bosses, and of some of the people around them even today.

 

[Lurdan]

Detailed story in the Islington Gazette (and other Newsquest titles) about yesterday's evidence from 'Jessica'.

'Jessica' tells Spy Cops inquiry of Andy Coles relationship - Islington Gazettes (Archived version)


The xtwitter plug for their story has a more blunt headline