citydreams
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..he says, on t'internet 
Two Stabbed on Stoke Newington High Street
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..he says, on t'internet
It's safer here, you remain more in control of the conversation, and it's much easier to leave it than if someone is next to you on a bus that might get off and follow you.
citydreams
on the road again
"Lying in my heap of Earth I can naturally dream of all sorts of things, even of an understanding with the beast, though I know well enough that no such thing can happen, and at the moment when we see each other, more, at that at the instant we merely guess at each other's presence, we shall both blindly bare our claws and teeth, neither of us a second before or after the other, both of us filled with a new and different hunger, even if we should already be gorged to bursting."
"But all remained unchanged."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Burrow_(story)
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
Probably just as well. Spouting some of the views you hold in Brixton pubs might not be too healthy!
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I do have enough common sense to know that ... the last time I went out, apart from ordering a drink, the only thing someone said to me all night was 'wheres the bogs mate', which I pointed to and he shuffled off in the general direction thereof.
Treacle Toes
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I meant 'slumming it' in terms of the type of job you may have to do....I mean not getting your ideal job straight away.
You suffer from 'stranger danger'. Some of us see 'strangers' as potential acquaintances/friends. Even more so if you join a club, do something with people who share common interests/ go places of interests that may have socialising possibilities.
You are paranoid. Any idea how uncommon that is?
How many people did you pass the time of day with? How many people did you make eye contact with?
Even on my darkest days I manage a smile or polite exchanges, it really isn't that hard.
From some of the stuff you have recently posted I imagine you give off an 'unapproachable' air.
You seem frustrated and critical and it's like a cancer. It eats you up, you feel sorry for yourself and it makes you project your bad feeling onto other people, other things.
It's a defense mechanism yes, but it's extremely detrimental as you lose the ability to relate to, engauge objectively or empathise with others. There is a level of depression in there also.
The cure is changing your life because the one you have now isn't making you happy. It may take time but sitting back, making excuses and being miserable is equally wasting time.
So no BME go to the same pubs as White People?
No BME are middle class?
All BME are in gangs that go around stabbing and shooting eachother?
BME and non-BME don't listen to the same music? Are you quite sure?
Yes, correct and most BME don't want to be in gangs, don't want to stab and shoot eachother, so guess what? They don't!!!!
Funnily enough, guess who you sound like?
eh?? LOL what ARE you on about! of course we listen to the same music etc etc etc of course the vast maj of bme are not in gangs etc etc etc
you seem to have entirely missed my point that is, that 'church street' systematically discriminates against people because of race and class .. i ask again you and others yet again how many bme or w/c people do you see in fresh and wild, in the spence, in the fox reformed, at the farmers market etc etc etc and again ask where have all the bme business like Gladdy Wax gone????? and i know second hand that certain pubs ( and can be certain more do) deliberately put off black people from coming
these 'church street' people are wankers .. they have their 'village' lifestyle living on inflated incomes from parasitical and useless jobs living in almost parallel universe to the surrounding population who are overwhelmingly poor angry and frustrated and reguarly stabbing and shooting each other ..
edit -( rututia pointed out ) that sentance above reads wrong .. but the fact remains that the surrounding pop are poor ARE frustrated and many many are angry and that means that SOME end up stabbing and shooting
GarfieldLeChat
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once more your racism is showing you realise there are realtively few 'white' shops in church street the majority being turkish indian bengali and other resturants right...
but then if you're not a local without local knowledge your own overt racism will of course prevade every asepct of your own viewpoint...
once again duritti playing the race card to score polical points with no basis in reality or giving on fig for the actual area....
systemically racist street...
you should cease flapping your gums uslessly like a goldfish fallen out of it's bowl...
but then if you're not a local without local knowledge your own overt racism will of course prevade every asepct of your own viewpoint...
once again duritti playing the race card to score polical points with no basis in reality or giving on fig for the actual area....
systemically racist street...
you should cease flapping your gums uslessly like a goldfish fallen out of it's bowl...
Treacle Toes
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Which ones?
A massive generalisation as the vast majority of BME and W/C in that area do not do this at all.
Making statements like that makes you part of the problem...
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
GarfieldLeChat
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sticks lea valley delta blues on the gramphone and wanders over to the orchard to the strains of Mother Hackney...
1) not going to name but they involve lots of sofas and expensive drinks and djs .. i am not lying
2) yes i get really wound up by all this .. and so i have again made a wrong statement .. the maj of people ARE frustrated .. many many are angry and that means that SOME end up stabbing and shooting
it does not change the real deal that we have two worlds here and it is bullshit that the church street tossers live their merry lives in a area of so much surrounding poverty .. they like to think they are nothing to do with this .. of course they bloody are .. these things are all connected
they call it that .. they think that .. so why am i a tool?'village' lifestyle.What an utter tool you really are.
so paulie .. do you like church street?more tea vicar?
GarfieldLeChat
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1) lie name or be damned.
2) yes you are entirely wrong. you are frsutrated you project that in to your interactions with others and attempt to build consenious and commonality out of your own frustration. It can't be done. people really don't think like you do. well very few, they tend to be obbsessional types too. you cannot know the area well or be able to pinpoint the problems of the area by crass sweeping generaliseations. that's not how it works.
church street is a street full of resurants bars and estate agents and little else. there's a few bouttequee type shops on it which open and close with the wind and little else.
this assumption that the place is in someway economically or socially different is utter bullshit. it might be slightyl more affluent than other parts but then that will be down to the resurant trade rather than any socioeconomic or racial factors...
even so who the hell are you to tell us what you think is wrong with our community from an outsiders point of view when all you do is make crass sweeping generalisations which are entirely unfounded.
GarfieldLeChat
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who'se they?
fucking dick...
again you fictious peoples you claim you are representing...
not trying to make captial out of things which you have no involvement in again are shitforbrains....
funny how you moan about palestinians being excluded in palestine by israel ( quite rightly as it goes ) but when exclusion happens on your doorstep you are silent .. to be honest it is more a class thing but many of these m/c types associate black with w/c .. and yes of course the spence lion prince skate board shop kids clothes shop fresh and wild are all turkish arn't they .. and yes the indian restuarants are indeed run by er indians
you swearing again? my you have so little self control .. yes of course they .. the middle class tossers who infest church street think of it as a village .. are you one of them?
LOL LOL LOL .. you are one of them aren't you!
You sad ignorant twat Garfield. Butterfields road?????? Do you mean Allen Road? A road where the pub used by locals got burnt down 2 kids burnt to death, 2 others left scarred for life..Across the road the launderette was also burnt down...A friend of mine who lived 2 doors away from the pub was murdered 6 years ago...It didnt make the papers....Across Butterfield green you have huge problems on the shakespeare estate with drugs and gang violence....
People like you and Paulie could live in Hackney for the next 40 years and still never understand what goes on amongst less privelleged people.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
The pub burning was a terrible incident, i used to drink in there, care to share wtf that has to do with the price of fish? I know someone who lives on Shakespeare estate, grew up on it. Yes, there are problems with local lads, instead of shrieking like some hysterical banshee, have you got anything positive as to how to address this issue? Understand 'less privelleged' [sic] people you say - Again, care to share when i moved into this affluent position of privilege? On what do you base this ad hom idiocy?
I've just reread the thread and am struggling to understand exactly what your point is - yes, there are quite stark and noticeable contrasts between people living on local authority estates and many of the people in the huge houses off church st and surrounds, but most of the young people i come into contact with are well behaved, respestful and decent people, who are as shocked and upset by incidents such as the murder of Etim before christmas as everyone else. I certainly don't see or hear about overt racial aggravation in the way that you have implied, more acquisitional crime based on poverty, opportunism, as well as drugs.
I believe that the council could do more, communities could do more, and individuals need to wake up to their roles and responsibilities towards young people. I think there's more that could be done with mentoring programmes, i think more could be done in terms of ensuring education is relevant and inspiring to such a diverse bunch of kids, youth workers funded to employ local people to work on the estates and getting to know the kids would bring about other financial savings, so the council should be making this case to central government as well as residents.
GarfieldLeChat
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yes alright if you liek i'm one of them if that means you can sectraintly dvide up a community which as yet in nearly 15 years of living in it i have never seen then ok love.... you not even fucking living here for 30 seconds would of course be able to define an areas culture based on of nothing but your own sweet arsed preducies... wanker is what we tend to call you round that's all...
are you writing for the comic books again? what's with the extrainious puncituation unless it's to indicate that you are talking out of your arse.
if you can of course point to where i have said there are no problems intrestingly you missed the house at the end of our old road which was firebombed the pub on northwold road which was burnt down and of course the more recent stabbings in your little diatribe... but of course living here you'd know... oh wait you don't....
wanker.
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GarfieldLeChat
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You used to drink in the POW? Really? Apologies in that case...You really do come across as somebody who would have drunk in the shakespeare from about the time they yuppied it up.
How many times did you drink in the POW by the way do you remember the owners names?
Garf me and durruti have never actually been to Hackney but it does look awwwful in the documentaries......
You silly sad twat.....You know next to nothing about Hackney after living there for 15 years...
GarfieldLeChat
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