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Two Stabbed on Stoke Newington High Street

GarfieldLeChat

GarfieldLeChat

fucking awesome but wrong
opposite the station.

Roads all blocked off at the moment from the cematary to the morrisons the station is open but only on to the Casnove road end/cut through.

Police are stating it's happened around the station and down on to manor road. so that's quite a big area closed off.

no buese are running past church street or past stamford hill in either direction.

the polcie are obviously quite worried as they are being shitty aggressive and arsey with everyone and preventing access to homes shouting at people being very confrontational. They seem much more jumpy than last time...

nothign on bbc or other news sources as yet.
 
they have closed off a load of roads the road by the bird cage the high street manor road and all the side roads it's a fooking nightmare trying to get into central stokey atm...
 
you could always get on the free train at stoke and get off at stamford hill one stop up to get round easier i guess...
 
there were stabbings on Friday and Sat too.
It's a turf war gang thing gone out of control

so someone who is flat-sharing with a copper at Stoke N cop shop tells me.
 
Badger Kitten said:
there were stabbings on Friday and Sat too.
It's a turf war gang thing gone out of control

so someone who is flat-sharing with a copper at Stoke N cop shop tells me.
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why the coppers are getting less and less comunity orintated round here if they want to get info or evidence the last thing you want is bullsh overly aggressive piggies who have lost what little respect stokie coppers get any ways...

it's going to slide back to the bad old days all over again if they don't sort their arses out stokey cop shop is a fucking joke their customer serivce skills these days are worse than usless...


looks to the left and right and awaits flaming from our usual MET poster boy flag waver...
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
why the coppers are getting less and less comunity orintated round here if they want to get info or evidence the last thing you want is bullsh overly aggressive piggies who have lost what little respect stokie coppers get any ways... ...
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Thats one of the main problems as I see it. If the police want a info they have to act well to the locals but there is also a need for these people to be caught very quickly. A big problem for the police who are told on the one hand do the community police bit and gather intelligence over the long term with the aim of banging up the perpetrators of these crimes and on the other hand getting pressure to go in hard from elsewhere.

Its not an easy situation which ever way you look at it.
 
KeyboardJockey said:
Thats one of the main problems as I see it. If the police want a info they have to act well to the locals but there is also a need for these people to be caught very quickly. A big problem for the police who are told on the one hand do the community police bit and gather intelligence over the long term with the aim of banging up the perpetrators of these crimes and on the other hand getting pressure to go in hard from elsewhere.

Its not an easy situation which ever way you look at it.
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easy or not they are still public servants and should remember that particlarlly when dealing with these issues. the WPC who started bawling out a motorist who asked if they could drive to their house outside of the cordon but past where she was wrongly directing traffic into a one way system which came out past it being a good example or the younger lad near casonove road who told a group of youths to shut up and piss off when they were asking why people were allowed to walk down one side of the street but why they particularlly couldn't walk up it are two very poor examples of the continued shower which stokie has been presented by the MET.

It's not as though there hasn't always been a repuation from Stokie nick either...

it's odd though that there's a compleate lack of news on this incident though nothing on the bbc i can find even the hackney gazette is quite and usually it's not one to keep quite about these things...

all very odd.

a double stabbing would surely still make it into the news as every other one in recent times has ...
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
... and preventing access to homes
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If it's a crime scene you ain't going in. End of, whether or not you live there. (No excuse for being arsey about it though, even if it does become a bit tiresome explaining why for the 2,136th time ...)

A crime scene may include routes in and out for suspects / victim and in the early stages of a response it is pretty common ractice to close as wide an area as possible until more facts are known for sure, after which things can be opened up if not needed. It's also usually the case that individual officers on individual cordons know very little about the bigger picture and so cannot provide many answers even if they wanted to - all they know is they've been told to stop anyone going that way until they are told otherwise.
 
detective-boy said:
If it's a crime scene you ain't going in. End of, whether or not you live there. (No excuse for being arsey about it though, even if it does become a bit tiresome explaining why for the 2,136th time ...)

A crime scene may include routes in and out for suspects / victim and in the early stages of a response it is pretty common ractice to close as wide an area as possible until more facts are known for sure, after which things can be opened up if not needed. It's also usually the case that individual officers on individual cordons know very little about the bigger picture and so cannot provide many answers even if they wanted to - all they know is they've been told to stop anyone going that way until they are told otherwise.
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I'm not so much disputing the reasons which are farly obviousl but the attitude of the officers involved who aren't forstering good community releations (again) with the locals...

I get the impression tbh that stokie nick and it's officers have all but given up on the area and would like if it no one bothered them again, so they never had to leave the station ever....

as it is there's still nothing in the news not even in the notirously right wing Gazettee...

tory media managment perhaps....
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
I get the impression tbh that stokie nick and it's officers have all but given up on the area and would like if it no one bothered them again, so they never had to leave the station ever....

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Given that the area has huge problems that they have to deal with. I wouldnt be suprised.
I know its all very well for the nice white incomers shopping at fresh and wild but for a lot of people who live there the streets of stoke newington are paved with blood....
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tbaldwin said:
People who call other people Enoch Powell if they say something they dont like.
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You were the one who started talking about streets paved with blood, old bean. And a certain Mr Powell made a very similar speech a few years ago warning of rivers of blood. Do try to keep up.
 
Paulie Tandoori said:
You were the one who started talking about streets paved with blood, old bean. And a certain Mr Powell made a very similar speech a few years ago warning of rivers of blood. Do try to keep up.
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True he did. And i suppose he got some things right for the wrong reasons and somethings wrong for the right reasons.
What cant be denied is that Stoke Newington is very much a place divided by race and class.
 
tbaldwin;7534917][QUOTE=GarfieldLeChat said:
I get the impression tbh that stokie nick and it's officers have all but given up on the area and would like if it no one bothered them again, so they never had to leave the station ever....
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Given that the area has huge problems that they have to deal with. I wouldnt be suprised.
I know its all very well for the nice white incomers shopping at fresh and wild but for a lot of people who live there the streets of stoke newington are paved with blood....[/QUOTE]
oh give over we have always had a certain level of problems here but that's merely sensationalist claptrap. Our biggest problem in the last few years has been the essesive use of police force couplled with being in a labour consituancy which has been robbing us blind and selling off the play areas parks and school playgrounds or playing fields to developers and that hackney counicl has not one care for youth provision whislt coming up with hair brained schemes to fleece the electorate out of more tax to pay contractors who did't do the job well in the first place...

we have has some social problems on the estates but largely due to underinvestment and cos the local kids have fuck all to do. This is a hackney wide problem you only have to look at the swimming pool or oceans developements to see how bad things are in terms of council in competance.
 
tbaldwin said:
True he did. And i suppose he got some things right for the wrong reasons and somethings wrong for the right reasons.
What cant be denied is that Stoke Newington is very much a place divided by race and class.
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you are talking out of your arse...

chuch street is neither the begining nor the end of stoke newing ton and indeed in comparitive terms it's an anomoly which isn't typical of the rest of the area.

we have had house prices go up and therefore more wealthy people move in but you are talkign like it's a wholesale destruction of the local area where as in actuallity house prices have only kept pace with the rest of the country...
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
no why does everyone assume this is the case.

the kurds who live here and the turks who live here mainly get on.... they both dispise the turkish government and what's happening at home...
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I wonder how many Turks and Kurds you know?

You do know they had to close down a secondary school partly due to the problems between turkish and kurdish gangs dont you?
 
GarfieldLeChat said:
you are talking out of your arse...

chuch street is neither the begining nor the end of stoke newing ton and indeed in comparitive terms it's an anomoly which isn't typical of the rest of the area.

we have had house prices go up and therefore more wealthy people move in but you are talkign like it's a wholesale destruction of the local area where as in actuallity house prices have only kept pace with the rest of the country...
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Have a look at House prices in some of the other roads and compare how they have risen in the last 20 years....And then you can tell me who is talking out of their arse.
 
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