Twin Peaks returns to television.

[mwgdrwg]

Dunno what to make of ep 4. Without the menace of 1 - 3, I liked it a bit less. It's a while since I've seen series 1 and 2 in full - in fact, I've only ever watched them through in full once - but I reckon this feels nothing like TP. It's even further away than Firewalk With Me, which I adore and have seen loads of times. Since many TP fans didn't get on with the film, there must be loads who dislike this even more?

This is more like a mixture of Lost Highway/Mulholland Drive/Inland Empire/Eraserhead, with a dash of Twin Peaks.

I love all of Lynch's work, so am in raptures.

If you only like the Twin Peaks series it's probably an eye-opener, lol.

 

[elbows]

Dunno what to make of ep 4. Without the menace of 1 - 3, I liked it a bit less. It's a while since I've seen series 1 and 2 in full - in fact, I've only ever watched them through in full once - but I reckon this feels nothing like TP. It's even further away than Firewalk With Me, which I adore and have seen loads of times. Since many TP fans didn't get on with the film, there must be loads who dislike this even more?

Not sure about that. Some people didnt like the film because it lacked some of the forms of warmth and humour that were on display in the series to varying degrees over its run. Episode 4 had a bit more of that stuff creeping in, so in one or two senses it felt a bit more like the series, though in other ways I quite agree this does not have the same feel, yet. The use of music is different so far, though I'm certainly not complaining about the sounds on offer so far.

 

[Orang Utan]

I suppose it's an obvious guess, but was that

Spoiler: new shoes!

Julee Cruise

at the end? I'm not so sure and can't be arsed to google it

Spoiler

it's The Chromatics, as heard on the soundtrack to Drive

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Not sure about that. Some people didnt like the film because it lacked some of the forms of warmth and humour that were on display in the series to varying degrees over its run. Episode 4 had a bit more of that stuff creeping in, so in one or two senses it felt a bit more like the series, though in other ways I quite agree this does not have the same feel, yet. The use of music is different so far, though I'm certainly not complaining about the sounds on offer so far.

Firewalk With Me much closer IMO. This has really long scenes (pretty much a no-no in TV) and lack of music/sound (which makes it feel almost unfinished IMO); also it mostly so far not being set in Twin Peaks (or anywhere with a similar vibe) and being filmed on digital video (I think?). When that TP music kicked in that scene with Bobby in ep4, it almost seemed like deliberate parody. It seems like some sort of anti-TV. I agree some bits feel Lost Highway-esque (possibly my fave Lynch work), but also some bits might feel like Inland Empire (which I hated, but should probably attempt a second viewing of).

NB Firewalk With Me had enough quirky humour in its first half.

 

[Who PhD]

FWWM confused and disturbed me when I saw it.

It felt a bit too weird whereas the show managed to walk the line between creepy, weird, and suburban soap opera perfectly.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

FWWM confused and disturbed me when I saw it.

It felt a bit too weird whereas the show managed to walk the line between creepy, weird, and suburban soap opera perfectly.

Fact of the matter is it's a disturbing masterpiece. And probably not any more confusing than Lost Highway or Mulholland Drive. One of the best soundtracks ever too.

 

[elbows]

This has really long scenes (pretty much a no-no in TV) and lack of music/sound (which makes it feel almost unfinished IMO);

I beleive the original series slowed the pace compared to other tv shows at the time, and the new one has certainly taken that several stages further. I love this because I cant stand the pacing of most modern tv & film to the extent that I usually watch old stuff, so I am having a real treat on this front with the new twin peaks.

There is a lack of music but I disagree that there is a lack of sound - I am pretty much in awe of the sounds Lynch made for all the weird scenes. Part of me thinks we will get more music if we get more stuff set in Twin Peaks but we shall see.

When that TP music kicked in that scene with Bobby in ep4, it almost seemed like deliberate parody. It seems like some sort of anti-TV.

Yes, I know what you mean. The series 'an invitation to love' that featured frequently on tv sets in the original series was taking the piss out of tv too, as was the short-lived tv series that Lynch & Twain did after Twin Peaks thats name escapes me right now.

I agree some bits feel Lost Highway-esque (possibly my fave Lynch work), but also some bits might feel like Inland Empire (which I hated, but should probably attempt a second viewing of).

I hated Inland Empire too, to the extent that I feared Lynch might be a spent force when it came to the screen. Very happy not to have this fear anymore.

NB Firewalk With Me had enough quirky humour in its first half.

Sure it had a humour of its own, with plenty in common with one of the forms of humour from the original series but other warmer sorts that often featured in the series were missing from the film. It didnt bother me much, I was just trying to explain why I thought some people didnt like the film. I'm sure there were other reasons too.

Looking at the production details of the original series I had forgotten how little Lynch was actually around and fully involved with many of the original episodes and thi probably explains some of the differences.

 

[May Kasahara]

Dark as fuck. I love it. The attention to detail is incredible: the interiors, the fucked up sound design, Cooper learning to be in a physical body again, the terrifying make up on his doppelganger. Although I do agree with the comment upthread about the female FBI agent, that whole thing is a bit unnecessary.

 

[Orang Utan]

Loving it.
Loved Michael Cera's Brando impersonation, even though it's totally WTF, like the rest of it.
Here are a lot of the questions these last four episodes have prompted:
We Have So Many Questions About What The Hell Is Happening In Twin Peaks: The Return

 

[SpookyFrank]

Is it about the bunnies?

 

[mwgdrwg]

It's not about the bunnies.

 

[elbows]

Loving it.
Loved Michael Cera's Brando impersonation, even though it's totally WTF, like the rest of it.
Here are a lot of the questions these last four episodes have prompted:
We Have So Many Questions About What The Hell Is Happening In Twin Peaks: The Return

Spoiler

I dont think there is really supposed to be much of a question left about who was behind Dougie's manufacture at this point!

 

[SpookyFrank]

Watch this with some decent headphones if at all possible. The sound design is really very good.

 

[elbows]

Watch this with some decent headphones if at all possible. The sound design is really very good.

Someone told me it was amazing with surround sound ( eg 5.1) but I havent had a setup like that for many years now.

 

[MrSpikey]

Yes, I know what you mean. The series 'an invitation to love' that featured frequently on tv sets in the original series was taking the piss out of tv too, as was the short-lived tv series that Lynch & Twain did after Twin Peaks thats name escapes me right now.

On the air?

 

[elbows]

On the air?

Yes thats the one. I think I watched it all on youtube some years back and whilst far from a classic like Twin Peaks it had a certain charm.

 

[Orang Utan]

It was more like a comedy this week.
The scene in the police station with Doris trying to have an argument with Sheriff Truman was hilarious

 

[Rosemary Jest]

That was very funny, yes.

This new series really is great, I just wish we didn't have to wait a week between episodes...

 

[Orang Utan]

That was very funny, yes.

This new series really is great, I just wish we didn't have to wait a week between episodes...

I'm glad of it

 

[mwgdrwg]

Episode 6 was just the best yet.

There was so much in it. Harry Dean Stanton was magnificent, and the perfect casting and reveal of.....

Spoiler

Diane!

 

[SpookyFrank]

Episode 6 was just the best yet.

There was so much in it. Harry Dean Stanton was magnificent, and the perfect casting and reveal of.....

Spoiler

Diane!

Fucking hell, I completely didn't twig who that was.

 

[rutabowa]

Just watched the 1st one, I liked it much better than the original series! Has anyone already pointed out how much evil Cooper is like Bruce Campbell in the Evil Dead series?

 

[Orang Utan]

Just watched the 1st one, I liked it much better than the original series! Has anyone already pointed out how much evil Cooper is like Bruce Campbell in the Evil Dead series?

No, cos he isn't

 

[mwgdrwg]

Episode 8 eh?

 

[Santino]

Pretty standard stuff.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Fucking hell. Beautiful, and terrifying.

Spoiler: Episode 8

The 'atom bomb' sequence was perfectly soundtracked by Penderecki's Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima, in fact the footage must have been shot and edited to fit the piece.

Don't know what to make of the convenience store bit at all.

At the end I was expecting the frog-bug thing to take over the young boy, who would turn out to be the young Bob in a pre-evil state. But of course that would have been too simple for Lynch wouldn't it?

Also, Nine Inch Nails

 

[mwgdrwg]

The shock has worn off now, and I'm starting to think that was one of the best things Lynch has done.

Spoiler

GOT A LIGHT?

 

[May Kasahara]

Full Lynch

 

[Orang Utan]

I didn't think things could get more disturbing than that treebollock, but that was truly nightmarish

 

[Orang Utan]

Oh, and there's no episode next week - we're going to have to wait a fortnight, but I expect it'll take that long to digest anyway