Turkey, ISIS, Kurds and Syria

[teqniq]

There's nastier groups than the state operating in the area.

I think we probably both know why they were arrested, they were reporting on the renewed conflict between the PKK and the government from s PKK perspective. With the co-operatiion of the PKK. IS have s presence in Turkeh as I'm sure you are aware but funnily enough they seem to have some sort of arrangement with those in charge.

 

[phildwyer]

I think we probably both know why they were arrested, they were reporting on the renewed conflict between the PKK and the government from s PKK perspective. With the co-operatiion of the PKK. IS have s presence in Turkeh as I'm sure you are aware but funnily enough they seem to have some sort of arrangement with those in charge.

I'm not referring to IS. There's no shortage of right-wing paramilitaries in Turkey.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm not referring to IS. There's no shortage of right-wing paramilitaries in Turkey.

and as you said

There's nastier groups than the state operating in the area.

presumably these right-wing paramilitaries not state sponsored, having no connection to the turkish state, whatsoever.

 

[phildwyer]

presumably these right-wing paramilitaries not state sponsored, having no connection to the turkish state, whatsoever.

You have no idea what you're talking about, as usual.

 

[Pickman's model]

You have no idea what you're talking about, as usual.

if i don't have any idea, it's only because you have no idea.

you have said:

a) 'there are nastier groups than the state operating in the area'

and

b) that you mean 'right-wing paramilitaries in turkey'.

so, if they are nastier than the state the logical inference is that they are not directed or sponsored by the state, or you would not have drawn the distinction.

 

[phildwyer]

if i don't have any idea, it's only because you have no idea.

you have said:

a) 'there are nastier groups than the state operating in the area'

and

b) that you mean 'right-wing paramilitaries in turkey'.

so, if they are nastier than the state the logical inference is that they are not directed or sponsored by the state, or you would not have drawn the distinction.

No, that is not the logical inference. Only a fool such as yourself would think it was.

 

[Pickman's model]

No, that is not the logical inference. Only a fool such as yourself would think it was.

ok. so you're saying these groups are directed and/or sponsored by the state.

 

[phildwyer]

ok. so you're saying these groups are directed and/or sponsored by the state.

No I'm not. What are you on about, you loon?

 

[Pickman's model]

No I'm not. What are you on about, you loon?

you're all over the shop on this one, phil. you've said these groups are a) nothing to do with the state, and b) not nothing to do with the state. these statements cannot both be true. perhaps you could expand on these right-wing paramilitaries in turkey and their relationship to the turkish state so we can see which of your statements was a lie.

 

[phildwyer]

you're all over the shop on this one, phil. you've said these groups are a) nothing to do with the state, and b) not nothing to do with the state.

I've said neither. You're more than usually confused this morning. Time for you to leave this thread.

 

[teqniq]

You are trolling again Phil

 

[Pickman's model]

You're more than usually confused this morning. Time for you to leave this thread.

the only person who is confused here is you, phil. it's not been the morning for, oh, two hours now. perhaps it's time for you to hold up your hands and admit you know nothing about the relationship of the turkish state to right-wing paramilitaries in turkey, given the contradictory statements you've made on this thread.

 

[Pickman's model]

You are trolling again Phil

not very well tho. his posts are riddled with schoolboy errors.

 

[phildwyer]

You are trolling again Phil

On the contrary, I am banishing a troll.

 

[Pickman's model]

On the contrary, I am banishing a troll.

you a magician then phil?

 

[Greebo]

you a magician then phil?

You've been waiting ages to say that.

 

[phildwyer]

You've been waiting ages to say that.

Don't encourage him, it's cruel. He's totally bonkers today.

 

[Greebo]

Don't encourage him, it's cruel. He's totally bonkers today.

Takes one to know one.

 

[Pickman's model]

Don't encourage him, it's cruel. He's totally bonkers today.

yeh. i suppose your baseless accusations of mental illness are the product of a mind at ease with itself.

 

[phildwyer]

yeh. i suppose your baseless accusations of mental illness are the product of a mind at ease with itself.

Go away Pickman's. You have nothing to add here.

 

[Pickman's model]

Go away Pickman's. You have nothing to add here.

that cock won't fight, dwyer. you've been asked a plain question and your refusal to answer it shows that despite your affectation to know something of the region your knowledge of turkish affairs is by no means as great as you suggest it to be.

 

[phildwyer]

that cock won't fight, dwyer. you've been asked a plain question and your refusal to answer it shows that despite your affectation to know something of the region your knowledge of turkish affairs is by no means as great as you suggest it to be.

What was the question, twit?

 

[Pickman's model]

What was the question, twit?

it's telling how you constantly need to belittle other people's intelligence or mental health.

 

[Pickman's model]

you're all over the shop on this one, phil. you've said these groups are a) nothing to do with the state, and b) not nothing to do with the state. these statements cannot both be true. perhaps you could expand on these right-wing paramilitaries in turkey and their relationship to the turkish state so we can see which of your statements was a lie.

more of a suggestion, perhaps - given the lack of an interrogative mark at the end - but how fortunate there's no pedants here, phildwyer, just you and i.

 

[phildwyer]

more of a suggestion, perhaps - given the lack of an interrogative mark at the end - but how fortunate there's no pedants here, phildwyer, just you and i.

That isn't a question, it's a crazed demand.

But if I decipher your ramblings correctly, your question is: what's the relation between right-wing Turkish paramilitaries and the state?

Sorry, I've no idea. Now I have a question for you: will you bugger off?

 

[Pickman's model]

That isn't a question, it's a crazed demand.

But if I decipher your ramblings correctly, your question is: what's the relation between right-wing Turkish paramilitaries and the state?

Sorry, I've no idea. Now I have a question for you: will you bugger off?

you could have agreed with my post 282 50 minutes ago and saved both of us some time. in reply to your question: no.

 

[LDC]

FFS, can both your bickering please not ruin another thread?

 

[miss direct]

Well it's kicking off here again. Not much in the media but flag burning going on, huge protests (solidarity, anti pkk/nationalism/ mixture of all), lots of rumours. I've been warned yet again to avoid crowded places and that civil war is coming. Politics here are a mess. Had enough of living in anxiety although I love Istanbul.

 

[frogwoman]

Didn't the pkk kill a lot of turkish soldiers recently?

 

[miss direct]

Allegedly, people are angry with Kurds, government, America (??)