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Not that I am unduly worried, but all the same I was wondering the other week when it was extremely windy how long are construction cranes designed to stay erected for at any one time without checks or maintenance.

The crane at the construction site opposite the THH has sat idle in place for what now, well over two years if not three? Apart from the stupidity of not using valuable construction equipment that could have been earning money for its owners, I do worry about the amount of time a temporary structure like that has been standing unattended by now…
 
Do trains need a signal to tell them when to go?

I don't know the true answer but general observation at Streatham and Loughborough Junction suggests yes they do.

My assumption is that the driver just looks at the clock and leaves if he is on time or late, he doesn’t have to wait for a signal to leave.

I’m no train buff but I’m sure I’m right in saying drivers are governed by traffic light-style signs as much as their schedule. For both operational reasons such as managing ongoing delays and changing priorities at junctions, and safety reasons if there are any obstacles, broken down trains etc just ahead.

I'm not a railway person, but to the best of my understanding -

the 'traffic light' style signals show stop / go / caution (yellow means the next signal is at red, two yellows means the next but one is) - and these apply to any train whether or not it's stopped at the station, and these are controlled from the signalling centre (these are mostly big, regionalised, largely computer assisted now.) broadly speaking, the track is divided in to 'sections' and a train can't enter any section until the previous train has left it. and there are interlocks built in to the system so that trains are not allowed to be signalled in to conflict with each other at junctions and so on.

some signals will automatically go to green when trains in front have cleared their bits of track, some require the signaller to do something to set the route up (e.g. where there's junctions and potential conflicting movements) - and how far in advance of the train being due they do that will depend on other trains needing to cross its path.

leaving a station after calling there for passengers is usually up to the train crew (suburban trains on southern / south eastern / thameslink are driver-only so there isn't a guard involved) - the driver will, at the right time, and when safe, close doors, check that doors have closed fully, and depart (or where there's a guard, they will close the doors, check doors have closed, and give a starting signal to the driver.)

there are a few stations where either some or all of the time (because of how busy the station is, or sharp curves that the CCTV system can't see round) a member of station staff on the platform will give a 'close doors' signal followed by a 'right away' signal (these are separate to the 'traffic light' style signal.)

but if the 'traffic light' style signal is at red, then the driver / station staff will not start the despatch process until the signal goes to a caution / green aspect.

there have been one or two accidents when a train has been started from a station when the signal has not been clear and nobody involved has noticed until too late.

plenty more here.
 
Suddenly there are loads of these green bags in clusters all around our local streets
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Has the Council introduced a new recycling scheme I am not aware of? The only other thing I can think of is that the pavements all look immaculate and completely free of weeds and fallen leaves, so perhaps these bags are full of pavement organic waste picked up by Council workers and are awaiting collection?
 
Suddenly there are loads of these green bags in clusters all around our local streets

Has the Council introduced a new recycling scheme I am not aware of? The only other thing I can think of is that the pavements all look immaculate and completely free of weeds and fallen leaves, so perhaps these bags are full of pavement organic waste picked up by Council workers and are awaiting collection?
Pretty sure it's the council leaf sweepers leaving them for collection
 
So the facebooks tell me the plant based menu from enrootldn at the Railway has stopped today. Kitchen closed for 10 days for a refurb, they say
Anyone know the background? Lack of demand, or something else.?

What is next?
 
The Co-op was broken into overnight- a few bricks were used to smash one of the window plates- and the place was closed with police in attendance earlier this morning when I went to do some shopping.
 
The Co-op was broken into overnight- a few bricks were used to smash one of the window plates- and the place was closed with police in attendance earlier this morning when I went to do some shopping.
Pretty bold move breaking into a presumably heavily alarmed supermarket right beside a busy road which Police regularly use to get from A to B.
 
I maybe didn’t ask that correctly.

My assumption is that the driver just looks at the clock and leaves if he is on time or late, he doesn’t have to wait for a signal to leave.

So, with the new gantry in Tulse Hill, it won’t make any impact on where they stop the train to let people on and off.
They definitely need to pay attention to the signals at Tulse Hill because there's a junction both sides of it.

Signal gantries are sometimes moved to allow longer trains to stop. If the rear ends of trains overhang the platform at Tulse Hill that might well be part of the reason to locate the new ones a bit further forward.

I was looking at the new signal gantries there a few weeks ago. Classic example of Network Rail over-engineering. I think they've decided it's cheaper to build everything out of massive amounts of concrete and steel, than to pay people to design it properly. They are gradually changing the UK's railway landscape into something like military fortifications.
 
So the facebooks tell me the plant based menu from enrootldn at the Railway has stopped today. Kitchen closed for 10 days for a refurb, they say
Anyone know the background? Lack of demand, or something else.?

What is next?
Pizza guys moving in.
 
Pretty grim. Several suggestions on Twitter from credible local sources that "a young girl was killed when a motorcyclist jumped red light" but not confirmed by any official police report so far. Also some reports of a second crash later in day???

EDITED 15/02 10:30 - Totally confusing.
The SLP now reporting that the victim was a woman in her forties, that the collision was with a van, and that she was not killed at scene but her injuries are "life threatening".

Your query is probably best directed to, and answered by those on Twitter who are the "credible local sources" to whom you refer.

Shortly before 3.00 p.m. on Tuesday 14 February 2023, a female pedestrian was hit by a vehicle at the crossing immediately by the offices of Oaks Estate Agents (formerly a branch of Ladbrokes) situated at 172 - 176 Norwood Road - the same spot where The Late Justyna Kalandyk was killed on 11 December 2017.

By 5.39 p.m. that afternoon, one Claire McDonald, who self-describes as an "Environmental psychologist, journalist and South Londoner" had posted the following on the social media platform, X (then known as Twitter):

"Half term: my son's 15yo friend has just come here, 15 mins after seeing a fatal hit & run in TulseHill; woman crossed with green man. My 13yo son got home 30mins later having seen ANOTHER horrendous collision on TH gyratory with police/fire/ambulances &"

Shortly before 7.00 p.m. the same evening, police officers at the scene of the incident stated that the accident four hours earlier was not, at that time, fatal.

Exactly one year later, one hopes that the injured woman either has made, or is making, the fullest possible recovery from what appeared to be a very serious accident.
 
So the facebooks tell me the plant based menu from enrootldn at the Railway has stopped today. Kitchen closed for 10 days for a refurb, they say
Anyone know the background? Lack of demand, or something else.?

What is next?
Had a railway pizza at lunchtime today - was good. Although, while I’m not vegan, was sorry to see the menu had changed as I liked the food in there a lot
 
The Cedar of Lebanon tree adjacent to the former site of Dick Sheppard School and opposite Tulse Hill Estate is scheduled to be felled to near ground level tomorrow, after a reported c.180 - c.200 years there. For those who were unable to take a final look at it:


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The Cedar of Lebanon tree adjacent to the former site of Dick Sheppard School and opposite Tulse Hill Estate is scheduled to be felled to near ground level tomorrow, after a reported c.180 - c.200 years there. For those who were unable to take a final look at it:


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Why is it getting felled....
 
Reading the reports it seems pretty clear cut. If it fell and killed someone presumably the management company would be very responsible if they had ignored the reports.

For cedar tree lovers there’s another great one on Upper Tulse Hill!

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Always loved that house and the one next to it. Think one still look like it is all house, which the other seems to have converted to flats at some point
 
Hot off the press from Nick minor

co-op just got robbed again by a bloke in a balaclava, who got behind the tills. Hope everyone is ok
 
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Blimey nothing on the shelves and now nothing in the tills.

The staff must be on danger money in there.

I have noticed a huge police presence over the last few weeks.
 
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Hot off the press from Nick minor

co-op just got robbed again by a bloke in a balaclava, who got behind the tills. Hope everyone is ok
There's quite a matriarchal figure that works there, usually behind the tills, has been there since Somerfield days. Very friendly to those who come in to shop, but I have seen her square up to shoplifters, grab items out of their hands, shout at them, tell them not to come back etc. I would imagine a man in a balaclava wouldn't faze her in the slightest!
 
Co-op shut this evening, which seemed to surprise not just me but several others who wandered up to stare at the locked doors
 
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