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Are you suggesting that the local people who ran it before were happy with the actual local people, who have used that pub their whole lives, as customers? And valued and welcomed them with open arms?

Didn't Mary do the countdown at midnight on New Year's Eve?
 
I mean live in the area. I feel you have backed one of my points up. This point is the people who ran it before who are local are being connected in with the people people running it now who are from Hackney. I wasn't talking about the new people, that whole paragraph was about the previous landlord.



It doesn't upset me at all however if you answer to someone is just swearing then it's hard to take that response seriously. Swearing at and insulting people, whether this betrays your personal politics or not, does not help make your position any stronger in fact it weakens it.

Sorry, that's vague, un-analytical waffle. Swearing neither weakens nor strengthens an argument or position, it merely punctuates, unless you're writing an academic essay for a particularly-prissy tutor.

If everyone on here just thinks everyone who is not exactly like them or disagrees with them is just a big fat cunt then any genuine community concern people express on here is lost and can be easily dismissed as people just going off on one online.

It's fortunate that most people on Urban75 don't think that everyone who disagrees with them is a big fat cunt, then, isn't it?
Please don't be one of those people who mistakes impassioned argument for cuntishness or cliquey behaviour.
 
Sure. It's not cliquey in here!

I was asked about what the previous landlords policy was and rather than pretend to know something I didn't I responded with what to me is evidence that people who used to drink there before the change were involved in the life of the place afterwards.

Without making anything up that's about the only honest answer I could give. You may not like my answer but it definitely is one.

Ok gang. Have a good one. That's enough for me. Good luck with your campaign against the new people in TWH.

I feel I've lost the best pub in the area and it's clear you guys felt the same about the previous change. I hope somehow we manage as a community to support more local people trying things in the area in the future as I would prefer as the inevitable change happens around here that it's locals who are at the front of it.
 
Don't you be raising my hopes now - maybe the staff and managemnet held an emergency meeting to discuss the trouble with the natives...
Either they're really stupid or just have money to burn. Sunday lunch has to be a really busy day for pubs, one of the busiest.

I honestly just don't understand it. People get put off with irregular opening times too, as well as Nazi bar managers.
 
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I'd put it down to one of two things - either somebody with a major stake in the pub has got a serious problem of some sort (about which I'd prefer not to speculate), or they really want this pub to fail.
 
If you walk past and it's open please let me know...I haven't been out since friday and haven't heard that anyone's confronted the Hart's (less's) manager yet...although a bit difficult when it's closed all the bloody time...
 
If you walk past and it's open please let me know...I haven't been out since friday and haven't heard that anyone's confronted the Hart's (less's) manager yet...although a bit difficult when it's closed all the bloody time...
It's their cunning new business plan - it is so exclusive that you have to know the special secret squirrel knock on the door to be allowed entrance, and they change the code every day
 
It's their cunning new business plan - it is so exclusive that you have to know the special secret squirrel knock on the door to be allowed entrance, and they change the code every day
Maybe they'll become a members only bar like OTC in Herne Hill...It's kinda like that already...
 
I'm still waiting for someone to post up a review for Buzz! I'll tweet the owner again to see if he can be arsed to reply.
 
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