Trump's promises

[DaveCinzano]

As a blue skies imagineering business guru he can easily come good on improving the US brand and making America great again with one simple name change.

I give you...

The United Greats of America

 

[andysays]

I think there's 1 thing we can absolutely guarantee trump will do, tax cuts for the rich, financial deregulation, and reduction in business oversight, and environmental regulations.

That's four things

 

[8den]

That's four things

All four of which are examples of a neoliberal economic policy which is what I was saying he'd pursue, now do you have a point or are you just going to continue with the childish point scoring?

 

[andysays]

All four of which are examples of a neoliberal economic policy which is what I was saying he'd pursue, now do you have a point or are you just going to continue with the childish point scoring?

No, I'll leave that to you as you're so much better at it than me

 

[8den]

No, I'll leave that to you as you're so much better at it than me

It's a fair assessment though. You aren't even capable of managing that.

 

[phillm]

This will annoy the wing of his far-right anti-Jewish 'supporters'.

Complete List of the Trump Campaign’s Promises to Israel

 

[Pickman's model]

This will annoy the wing of his far-right anti-Jewish 'supporters'.

Complete List of the Trump Campaign’s Promises to Israel

yes. but i don't believe you have grasped the essence of much of christian zionism as it exists in the united states, which isn't so much the zionist entity's a top thing as the existence of the zionist entity shows how close we are to the end times.

 

[phillm]

yes. but i don't believe you have grasped the essence of much of christian zionism as it exists in the united states, which isn't so much the zionist entity's a top thing as the existence of the zionist entity shows how close we are to the end times.

I have now !

 

[ska invita]

JESUS
"Banks stocks are rallying this morning, with JP Morgan up 4% and Goldman Sachs gaining 2%.
They’re benefitting from speculation that the Republicans could ditch Dodd-Frank, the legislation brought in to avoid a repeat of the financial crisis."

TBF he did say it on the campaign trail at some point.
You have to despair....

 

[8den]

Indiana Gov. Mike Pence signed a law this year that mandated funerals for fetuses

Mike Pence is a fucking lunatic.

 

[bimble]

Indiana Gov. Mike Pence signed a law this year that mandated funerals for fetuses

Mike Pence is a fucking lunatic.

wow. Happy to find out that i can still be shocked though.

 

[ska invita]

Indiana Gov. Mike Pence signed a law this year that mandated funerals for fetuses

Mike Pence is a fucking lunatic.

thats a tricky one in that there are mothers in the UK who want to have funerals for their miscarried/aborted babies aged under (what is it?) 24 weeks? But it isnt allowed by UK law because of abortion laws, and the unborn child has to be treated as "medical waste". Which can be harsh. Theres debate about this in the funeral world in the UK too I gather

 

[Treacle Toes]

thats a tricky one in that there are mothers in the UK who want to have funerals for their miscarried/aborted babies aged under (what is it?) 24 weeks? But it isnt allowed by UK law because of abortion laws, and the unborn child has to be treated as "medical waste". Which can be harsh. Theres debate about this in the funeral world in the UK too I gather

Absolutely correct... IT's not that you can't do it however, it's more that the foetus isn't recognised as a baby under 24 weeks so there is no legal obligation for the state or hospitals to help mothers with funerals.

The whole forced funeral idea is an add on to the pro life campaign and will be used to chip away at women's access to abortions.

 

[bimble]

thats a tricky one in that there are mothers in the UK who want to have funerals for their miscarried/aborted babies aged under (what is it?) 24 weeks? But it isnt allowed by UK law because of abortion laws, and the unborn child has to be treated as "medical waste". Which can be harsh. Theres debate about this in the funeral world in the UK too I gather

Didn't know that you are not allowed to do it here by law. That seems crazy too.

 

[ska invita]

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[8den]

thats a tricky one in that there are mothers in the UK who want to have funerals for their miscarried/aborted babies aged under (what is it?) 24 weeks? But it isnt allowed by UK law because of abortion laws, and the unborn child has to be treated as "medical waste". Which can be harsh. Theres debate about this in the funeral world in the UK too I gather

How is forcing a woman to have AND PAY FOR a funeral for her foetus "tricky"?

Also its common for Irish women who go to the UK for abortions to recieve the creamated remains via a jiffy bag and courier (which is equally appalling) so women in the UK must be allowed to get the remains too

For fucks sake ska the pro life lobby talked him out of this, how fucking nuts do you have to be to be too crazy for people who call themselves "pro life" and murder fucking doctors!

 

[ska invita]

How THE FUCK is forcing a woman to have AND PAY FOR a funeral for her foetus "tricky"?

For fucks sake ska the pro life lobby talked him out of this, how fucking nuts do you have to be to be too crazy for people who call themselves "pro life" and murder fucking doctors!

apologies, i didnt explain clearly enough - i wasn't referring directly to Pence's law, the detail of which is awful, i was saying that what is tricky is creating a law that allows mothers to have funerals for unborn children that doesn't also play into the banning of abortion. The trickiness is apparent in the example i gave of the UK, were a foetus of 23 weeks has to be treated as "medical waste" even if a mother would wish to have a funeral for it.
hope that's clearer

 

[8den]

apologies, i didnt explain clearly enough - i wasn't referring directly to Pence's law, the detail of which is awful, i was saying that what is tricky is creating a law that allows mothers to have funerals for unborn children that doesn't also play into the banning of abortion. The trickiness is apparent in the example i gave of the UK, were a foetus of 23 weeks has to be treated as "medical waste" even if a mother would wish to have a funeral for it.
hope that's clearer

Sorry bit over sensitive. Apologises.

 

[ska invita]

Sorry bit over sensitive. Apologises.

my fault...i shouldve made that clear.

 

[Treacle Toes]

a foetus of 23 weeks has to be treated as "medical waste" even if a mother would wish to have a funeral for it.

Not quite. It is hospitals and the State that deem the remains as 'medical waste' which means they are under no obligation to help. The mother can though organise a funeral if she has the means to.

 

[8den]

Not quite. It is hospitals and the State that deem the remains as 'medical waste' which means they are under no obligation to help. The mother can though organise a funeral if she has the means to.

Its weird I'm actively part of the repeal8th campaign in ireland, and one of the many distressing things is mothers having to travel to the UK for abortions of health reasons or fetal abnormalities, the remains are often couriered back in envelopes, adding to the distress.

 

[bimble]

The thing that pence signed, could it be that's what Trump had in mind when he vaguely alluded to wanting to 'punish' women for having abortions?

EDIT: Oh, it seems not, seems he was contemplating the short sharp shock of a jail sentence.
"Matthews pressed again: "Do you believe in abortion or no as a principle?"

"The answer is there has to be some form of punishment," Trump said.

"For the woman?" Matthews said.

Trump said, "Yes," and nodded. Matthews pressed further: 10 days or 10 years? Trump said he didn't know, and that it's "complicated."

"It will have to be determined," Trump said.

Donald Trump: "There has to be some form of punishment" for women who have abortions

 

[Pickman's model]

i wonder what the results will be in the next lot of congressional elections. might be trump fucks the republicans.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Donald Trump's plan to ban Muslims from America just disappeared from his website

 

[stavros]

Without knowing the idiosyncrasies of the American legislature, is there anything Obama can do by executive order in the next couple of months to partially limit the potential damage?

 

[DaveCinzano]

Donald Trump's plan to ban Muslims from America just disappeared from his website

I half-expect Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi to peel off a rubber Trump mask to reveal himself, Scooby Doo villain-style

 

[extra dry]

number 16. I think most states will go full steam ahead just for the cash benefits.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Without knowing the idiosyncrasies of the American legislature, is there anything Obama can do by executive order in the next couple of months to partially limit the potential damage?

 

[Yossarian]

Donald Trump's plan to ban Muslims from America just disappeared from his website

He's still got this under "Foreign Policy" :

Suspend, on a temporary basis, immigration from some of the most dangerous and volatile regions of the world that have a history of exporting terrorism.

Amid the tidal wave of other crap, I'd forgotten that Trump had also promised this:

Establish a Commission on Radical Islam to identify and explain to the American public the core convictions and beliefs of Radical Islam, to identify the warning signs of radicalization, and to expose the networks in our society that support radicalization.

Foreign Policy and Defeating ISIS

 

[Manter]

He's still got this under "Foreign Policy" :


Amid the tidal wave of other crap, I'd forgotten that Trump had also promised this:


Foreign Policy and Defeating ISIS

Apparently it was a 'signposting error'