Tout exposed Mark 'Stone/Kennedy' exposed as undercover police officer

[Pickman's model]

So, it looks as if you subversive malcontents have a pretty effective weapon against infiltrators now; anyone who refuses a shag has outed themselves as police. A conspirator whose commitment is genuine should be prepared to prove themselves thus, whatever their normal preferences would dictate. Perhaps the onerous task of demanding sex from activists under suspicion should be rotated around the group.

fuck off

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm hoping this is an attempt at a joke, but really it's not that funny.

maurice has long been funny peculiar

 

[LDC]

fuck off

That was my initial reply, then I was struck down with a blow of politeness. Glad to see that didn't infect you too.

 

[Pickman's model]

That was my initial reply, then I was struck down with a blow of politeness. Glad to see that didn't infect you too.

no, you've got to be firm but fair with maurice.



firm, anyway.

 

[DaveCinzano]

 

[teqniq]

How come the CPS pressed this one whilst Kennedy and his croneys ain't been charged?

Woman tricked friend into having sex by pretending to be a man, court hears

Although the circumstances are a bit different the principle remains

She got eight years for that too. Whilst I do not approve of the deception, not at all, I thought the sentence was really steep especially so in light of their lack of prosecution of Kennedy and co.

 

[DrRingDing]

That case sprung to mind too.

I wonder now compensation has been paid Kennedy et al are now free from prosecution in the future?

 

[Pickman's model]

That case sprung to mind too.

I wonder now compensation has been paid Kennedy et al are now free from prosecution in the future?

i doubt it. i imagine they could be sued for e.g. child maintenance. and the relationships with the women might not be all they could be sued for.

next

 

[LDC]

I think it depends on the fine print of anything the women have had to sign regards this. Often payouts in cases like these come with the agreement that it ends it legally and no further action is taken. Although I suspect it might be quite complicated in this case, like maybe it means the Metropolitan Police can't be chased, but the individuals themselves can. (Although whether the women want to engage in another lengthy case is another issue.) Guess we'll find out soon.

 

[DrRingDing]

Tolerance of sex crimes is getting less and less. GIve it a few years and they may be ripe for prosecution.

 

[LDC]

Ripe for execution did you say?

 

[eoin_k]

We should all take a moment to reflect on how these women settled out of court:

Although no amount of ‘sorry’, or financial compensation, can make up for what we and others have endured, we are pleased the police have been forced to acknowledge the abusive nature of these relationships and that they should never happen.
By linking our cases together we have been able to evidence a clear pattern of abusive, discriminatory behaviour towards women which amounts to institutional sexism by the Metropolitan police.
Five years ago, it would have seemed inconceivable to the public that state employees would go to such lengths but the scale of abuse uncovered demonstrates that this was accepted practice for many years.

If how a civil case plays out mean that settling out of court is the best/only option you have, then this is the way to do it.

 

[newbie]

Worth noting that the statement makes no apology to, or even acknowledgement of, the children born as a result of these relationships. I heard a woman on the radio expressing outrage about her children being dismissed like that. Why am I not surprised the police continue to be so insensitive.

 

[William of Walworth]

Also worth being aware that not all the affected women have accepted the apology or settlement.

However, an eighth woman in the legal action, Kate Wilson, has not accepted the settlement and continues her legal fight. Wilson, who had a two-year relationship with Kennedy between 2003 and 2005, said that following the discovery of his real identity, “my sense of who I am and what I can believe, have been devastating and I remain haunted by unanswered questions” ........
Other women who were deceived into having relationships with undercover officers have yet to settle their legal actions against the police.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Bob Lambert has finally been forced out of his job at St Andrews university.

Bob Lambert resigns as University lecturer over spying controversy

And mealy-mouthed bullshit of the month award goes to the university's principal:

Professor Louise Richardson, the outgoing Principal of the University, also spoke to The Saint about the controversy.

“When Bob Lambert was hired here he made clear that he had been an undercover police officer and he made no effort to disguise that. So he was hired by the University in full knowledge of that. And I think hiring people who have had real world experience in an institution which is teaching counter terrorism in entirely legitimate.

In my position I’m not going to get involved in what people do privately whoever they are, so I think the University were legitimate to hire him and I think it has been reasonable for us to keep him. Students have appreciated his lectures, have learned from him. So I really don’t have anything to add to that saga.”

...I can only assume she's professor of irony or something, on account of the bit in bold

But anyway, have a nice christmas in the dole queue you cunt.

 

[DrRingDing]

Thought it was Londonmet he was teaching at.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Thought it was Londonmet he was teaching at.

There too. He resigned from that job earlier this month as well.

 

[laptop]

y

I think the University were legitimate to hire him

She should be fired just for that wooly thinking

 

[DaveCinzano]

Lambert Resigns!

 

[DaveCinzano]

It's worth noting that he's nearly at retirement age, he has business interests both here and overseas, and he resigned, he wasn't sacked.

We're a far way off justice just yet awhile.

 

[equationgirl]

Uni staff normally have to give a term's notice anyway, so he'd have given his notice either at the end of the summer term or at the start of the autumn term.

 

[DrRingDing]

It's worth noting that he's nearly at retirement age, he has business interests both here and overseas, and he resigned, he wasn't sacked.

We're a far way off justice just yet awhile.

What does justice look like? That's a rhetorical question.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Uni staff normally have to give a term's notice anyway, so he'd have given his notice either at the end of the summer term or at the start of the autumn term.

He handed in his notice two weeks ago, as he had a new job abroad already lined up.

 

[equationgirl]

He handed in his notice two weeks ago, as he had a new job abroad already lined up.

That's odd, uni staff are generally on such a long notice period because of the disruption losing a member of staff can cause to student teaching and how long it can take to find a replacement. Nevermind, I won't be shedding any tears over his departure.

 

[laptop]

That's odd, uni staff are generally on such a long notice period because of the disruption losing a member of staff can cause to student teaching and how long it can take to find a replacement. Nevermind, I won't be shedding any tears over his departure.

Which means that a short notice period always suggests that the person was resigned (resign (2): verb transitive).

 

[DaveCinzano]

These were quasi-academic sinecures in former cop-stuffed, semi-autonomous research units filled out by seasoned securocrats, of which BL is a prime example. His research work and publishing has tailed off to a trickle. Still no sign of his long-awaited work on Breivik. Few of his former UK academic partners seem to want to be seen with their names up against his at the moment - nor indeed do his business partners.

More coverage:

Ex-undercover officer who infiltrated political groups resigns from academic posts

 

[Nigel Irritable]

Undercover policeman proposed to activist - BBC News

This "Carlo Neri" would have been in the London SP at the same time I was. I can't say that I remember the fucking worm a dozen or so years later, but I must have met him at some point.

Does anyone else who was in the SP in London between 10 and 15 years ago remember him?

 

[Nigel Irritable]

It's interesting to look at the similarities and differences between the behaviour of undercover cops in different times and places. This guy seems to have avoided "provocateur" stuff, with the solitary exception of one apparently drunken incident which didn't come to anything. He wasn't even the sort to be down the front at even slightly unruly demonstrations. Instead he seems to have been there long term to gather names and trace connections. He also appears to have sought out women who weren't members of the group he was targeting but instead moved in the same circles to manipulate and use as cover - that last bit seems to be something of a pattern across a few of these bastards.

Carlo Neri (alias) - Powerbase

 

[Jeremiah18.17]

Interesting play related to topic on in Nottingham over next month - Any Means Necessary at Nottingham Playhouse

 

[DaveCinzano]

The Newsnight package is here:



The Guardian article (it was a joint investigation by URG, the BBC and Rob Evans, amongst others):

Woman who was engaged to police spy sues Met over 'psychological torture'