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Tory ex-Minister arrested on suspicion of rape

MrCurry

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Conservative MP arrested on suspicion of rape

Police say the allegations relate to four separate incidents alleged to have taken place over six months.
www.bbc.com

I wonder who this is. How many ex-ministers in their 50s are still current Tory MPs? Alleged offences took place last year.

The Sunday Times, which first reported the story, said the complainant alleges that the MP assaulted her, forced her to have sex and left her so traumatised that she had to go to hospital.

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"These offences are alleged to have occurred at addresses in Westminster, Lambeth and Hackney between July 2019 and January 2020.
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maomao said:
After May's government 'former minister' + 'man in fifties' covers a few dozen people I would think. Is it all over Twitter yet?
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First thread I found on twitter says there are only three who fit the criteria provided in the Sunday Times piece.
 
MrCurry said:
First thread I found on twitter says there are only three who fit the criteria provided in the Sunday Times piece.
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I've come up with two so far. Chris Grayling and Jeremy Hunt are both current MPs, ex ministers and in their fifties.
 
Greg Clark, Liam Fox, Damian Hinds, David Mundell. There's more than 3 people that fit the description. That's at least seven (thereby making speculation on which one even more pointless). Twitter's full of shit.
 
maomao said:
'Needing to resort to' is a very odd way of putting it. As if rape implies a lack of the ability to obtain sex 'properly' and that men have to have sex.
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Yes and I've heard versions of this along the lines of 'he wouldn't need to rape anyone, he could have any woman he wanted' used to dismiss allegations against men not seen as 'the type' who could be rapists. As if anyone needs to commit rape.
 
Badly worded on my part. I was trying to make the point that if you are in a relationship surely your consideration of that person would be such that, if your partner refused to have sex with you, you would be understanding of that. You would not force yourself on your partner against their wishes. If your partner means so little to you that you would rape them it is not a relationship worthy of the name.
 
dessiato said:
Badly worded on my part. I was trying to make the point that if you are in a relationship surely your consideration of that person would be such that, if your partner refused to have sex with you, you would be understanding of that. You would not force yourself on your partner against their wishes. If your partner means so little to you that you would rape them it is not a relationship worthy of the name.
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I'd stop digging on this one if I were you.
 
Athos said:
We should be careful here. It's possible that naming the arrested MP will reveal the victim's identity.
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It's not going to be a secret for very long, there are going to be a lot of people attempting to find out who he is and the details of the accusations.
The days when the courts could gag a few newspapers have long gone.
Making any kind of accusation against a public figure is fraught with risk these days.
At least with ex-Ministers there is unlikely to be a swell of public opinion defending them.
 
BBC does include this though
The Sunday Times reported that the allegations against the former minister were made by an ex-parliamentary employee.
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andysays said:
Is that part of the original ST story, or is it from some random on Twitter? It certainly doesn't appear in the BBC's version of the story you opened with.

The BBC does include this though
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Yes, unverified from Twitter, so you’re right, it should not be repeated as fact. My bad.
 
There are different grades of Ministers, there are Cabinet ones, junior ones, PPS. Saying ex-Minister I think makes most people assume Cabinet and there are indeed only three i can think of (and I know which of those three I would put money on) but it could be a dozen plus ( too much effort to draw up a list).
But even the larger number isn't that great and I suspect come the end of this week we will all know who is accused and by whom.
The thing is if it turns out that they were having an affair then once again it is probably going to come down to one person's word against another's.
That's the problem with rape accusations in relationships it always comes down to "She said Yes but we fell out and now she is saying she said No" and "I said No but he refused to listen".
I can see a ruined political career and an expensive divorce happening but not a jail sentence.
 
Twitter seems to have got their man. An actual piece of filth I'll let you do your own digging - but none of the names mentioned thus far.
 
dessiato said:
Badly worded on my part. I was trying to make the point that if you are in a relationship surely your consideration of that person would be such that, if your partner refused to have sex with you, you would be understanding of that. You would not force yourself on your partner against their wishes. If your partner means so little to you that you would rape them it is not a relationship worthy of the name.
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Rape is about entitlement and control.
 
Badgers said:
Wonder why the Standard left out the words
'Tory minister' from the headline?

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Maybe their lawyers warned them about jigsaw identification as he has been accused at this stage not charged. That said what's the point if the BBC et al have already jumped the gun.

Edit - have read the link - sloppy subbing I would have thought.
 
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