Titanic tourist sub missing

[LDC]

I’m not going to watch that but thanks.

Yeah, I made the mistake of watching that. Not to be recommended tbh.

 

[Spymaster]

Yeah, I'll spoiler that.

 

[redcogs]

when will arrests begin?

 

[planetgeli]

Bahnhoff did a non-pig one. This is many, many times less than the pressure they'd have gone under.

 

[pbsmooth]

And for the slow people... what causes that to happen?

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Water is heavy.

They have a lot of water on top of them.


Or air in the case of the tanker.
People don't think of air as being heavy but that's just because it's our normal. We are sitting on the bottom of a 10000km tall sea of air.

 

[Pickman's model]

back in the day someone would have posted the auld conflict song 'increase the pressure' long ago

 

[LDC]

At least catastrophic failure would have likely been pretty/very quick, better than power failure and sitting there for 4 days knowing there's fuck all chance of rescue and slowly dying.

 

[Orang Utan]

Happy, everyone?

Five people dead. In the most horrendous way possible. Result you wanted?

Expected is not the same as wanted.

 

[Orang Utan]

Mythbusters put a pig in a deep sea diving suit and compressed it to 135psi, and this happened:

Spoiler: Video showing the effect of water pressure on a pig carcass

The people in the submersible would have been subjected to more than 20 times that pressure, and almost instantaneously.

I assume the pig was dead first?

 

[Cid]

I assume the pig was dead first?

It was. Mythbusters not quite that problematic.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

back in the day someone would have posted the auld conflict song 'increase the pressure' long ago

 

[Magnus McGinty]

So, a catastrophic implosion of the pressure hull is looking to be the likely failure mode for this complete hash of a submersible craft. The rear cover might have been attached with gaffer tape and dreams, but that landing frame looks like it could have been more firmly attached. If I were to make a bet, I'd say that it was the front viewing porthole that went first. That shit's most likely to fail if it's only one-third as strong as it needs to be.

Turns out that manned excursions to environments extremely hostile to human life are massively expensive and laden with redundancies for some pretty damn good reasons. NASA has learnt these lessons well, which is why their manned space program moves as slow as it does. Safety is not optional if you want to come back alive.

Or the hatch that bolted them in. Could be as simple as incorrect torque either over or under tightening the bolts.

 

[Cid]

At least catastrophic failure would have likely been pretty/very quick, better than power failure and sitting there for 4 days knowing there's fuck all chance of rescue and slowly dying.

Would likely have been pretty much instantaneous. The mythbusters video they're removing the air through a valve, and the pressure is significantly lower.

 

[Cid]

Confirmed now, coastguard says catastrophic loss of pressure chamber.

Paul Hanken, an undersea expert, says rescuers found “five different major pieces of debris that told us that it was the remains of the Titan”.

The initial thing we found was the nose cone... then we found a large debris field. Within that large debris field, we found the front end bell of the pressure hull. That was the first indication that there was a catastrophic event.
Shortly after, we found a second smaller debris field within that debris field. We found the other end of the press hull that…basically comprised of the totality of that pressure chamber...
We will do our best to fully map out what’s down there.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Whilst the stepson don't give a fuck

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What's he supposed to do though? Stop living? Not like he could fly/sail over there and help out with the search effort.

 

[redcogs]

i'm actually surprised no arrests have been reported yet. Billionaire bereaved wives tend to have clout and are well used to throwing cash and their legal system at problems less pressing.

 

[Tanya1982]

Kerching!

There’s no happier event than the loss of a step parent - unless they’ve got money, in which case happiness gives way to ecstasy.

 

[redcogs]

Would love to be a fly on the wall at OceanGate HQ.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

i'm actually surprised no arrests have been reported yet. Billionaire bereaved wives tend to have clout and are well used to throwing cash and their legal system at problems less pressing.

Noises were made in the press today that they thought the 8 hour delay between loss of contact and it being reported were ‘too long’. That’s a moot point now given they were already dead. So I expect lawyers in the coming days.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Would love to be a fly on the wall at OceanGate HQ.

I wouldn't. Good chance the building wouldn't take your weight.

 

[steveo87]

They're skeletons already? Those deep sea fish don't fuck about

Just watched a video, can't remember who it was but did include the killer line 'you dont go to Arlington cemetery with a shovel', that said the bottom of the ocean is rich with Calcium Carbonate - which devolves bones.

 

[Tanya1982]

So, a catastrophic implosion of the pressure hull is looking to be the likely failure mode for this complete hash of a submersible craft. The rear cover might have been attached with gaffer tape and dreams, but that landing frame looks like it could have been more firmly attached. If I were to make a bet, I'd say that it was the front viewing porthole that went first. That shit's most likely to fail if it's only one-third as strong as it needs to be.

Turns out that manned excursions to environments extremely hostile to human life are massively expensive and laden with redundancies for some pretty damn good reasons. NASA has learnt these lessons well, which is why their manned space program moves as slow as it does. Safety is not optional if you want to come back alive.

There was someone on a news programme earlier - a television presenter in the US who had reported on this thing and had been inside it. Apparently there were 18 boltholes, but only 17 went in during his demo because they couldn’t find the 18th, and this Stockton guy said ‘well, it doesn’t really matter, we’ve been down with less than 18 before’. So, the owner was very much a man operating without the full complement.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

They haven’t cottoned on to the glee yet then.

The new Titanic disaster united us in equal horror and admiration

DAN WOOTTON: For centuries, the world's greatest explorers and adventurers have put their own lives at risk over and over again to drive forward humanity.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[NoXion]

Or the hatch that bolted them in. Could be as simple as incorrect torque either over or under tightening the bolts.

I read reports which mentioned how badly under-specced the viewport was, hence my suspicion of that being the point of failure. But given how much of a Mickey Mouse operation OceanGate have turned out to be, it's entirely possible that some other component may have been the root cause of the catastrophe.

 

[Duncan2]

What's he supposed to do though? Stop living? Not like he could fly/sail over there and help out with the search effort.

and to be fair he had already tweeted "thoughts and prayers"yesterday.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

back in the day someone would have posted the auld conflict song 'increase the pressure' long ago

Will this do you?

 

[SpookyFrank]

I read reports which mentioned how badly under-specced the viewport was, hence my suspicion of that being the point of failure. But given how much of a Mickey Mouse operation OceanGate have turned out to be, it's entirely possible that some other component may have been the root cause of the catastrophe.

Biggest viewport on a deep sea submersible was a selling point IIRC.

There's a reason they're usually small. IIRC the Trieste had a viewport consisting of a block of quartz eight inches thick.

e2a: The window on Trieste was plexiglass. But the exterior light bulbs were made of quartz. I was thinking of Barton and Beebe's Bathysphere, which had a quartz window. It was a mere three inches thick.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I read reports which mentioned how badly under-specced the viewport was, hence my suspicion of that being the point of failure. But given how much of a Mickey Mouse operation OceanGate have turned out to be, it's entirely possible that some other component may have been the root cause of the catastrophe.

I can’t bend my head around folk throwing hundreds of thousands of pounds at someone who refused vigorous testing of a craft for an already dangerous pursuit. I suppose being rich usually makes you invincible.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Ah, you beat me to it.