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Silly Rabbit
only reveling in the Tory donor situation
but commenting on the daftness of anyone to get into someone home made death trap and go down 12000 feet.
Titanic tourist sub missing
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only reveling in the Tory donor situation
but commenting on the daftness of anyone to get into someone home made death trap and go down 12000 feet.
BigMoaner
We will all go together
in an ideal world there'd be care for both, the 650 and these twats lol
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Depends - the situation in the Med has a dozen plus issues that trail in its wake (war, climate change, governance, economic, EU, Greece, Greek coastguard etc..) that are of far greater significance that the (relatively) simple and low-ish level of regulation of sea going vessels. The med situation is the one politicians and civil society should be talking about.
The rescue/recovery in the north Atlantic is the one where youyiu can point a cameras at something, and you could argue, actually achieve something today/tomorrow.
Important Vs urgent.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
If I'm reading the Rolling Stone article correctly, then sonar buoys have been deployed in the area and have detected noises that might be indicative of survivors.
Yep. A plane using sonar pick this up and they have gone back with more sonar equipment to try and pinpoint location.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I've emailed the Palace with Urbans thoughts on the matter
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
No, most of the cost will be opportunity costs. The military assets tasked would have been doing something anyway and any OSV that could get there would most likely be between taskings and will be paid for by one insurance company or other. Plus even if unsuccessful the learning will be useful in future events. There is also the benefit to family of knowledge even if the operation does become recovery not rescue.
Whatever happened to start it, in the recent Greek tragedy there was a massive, mostly Greek, SAR operation after which did result in the saving of 104 people, so it’s wrong to say zero effort was made there.
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NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Also, I suspect that the two problems require a rather different set of skills and resources in order to remedy them. So the "why this but not that" strikes me as being a bit of a red herring.
BigMoaner
We will all go together
yes - also tiny submarine 3 miles down visiting the most famous shipwreck of all time - it's holly wood shit. but i do understand the choice of extent of coverage, rescue efforts etc. but no matter how you look at it, it's an interesting story in and of itself.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
tbf had the authorities of Greece and Italy swung in to action in the same way as the US and Canada there would have been a good prospect of saving many of the 650, (leaving aside that it seems likely it is the actions of Greece that caused this in the first place), those on the sub were either flat as a pancake in a millisecond or doomed to die slow, cold, lingering death. Either way they were goners as soon as their vessel failed.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
The Greek and Italian military assets would have been doing something anyway too, other than pushing-back migrants and refugees.
You think these jaunts to gawp at a mass-grave are insured?
Yeah there is that, many of the ~650 dead don't have family, cos they're all dead now too, ffs
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Oh wow, I’m sure Charlie boy will be able to contribute meaningfully to something for once in his life
Cid
Proper break this time
Imagine that one of them was a keen cyclist, that should get you in the right place.
My genuine thought on this is similar to how I feel about Everest deaths... You have to be aware of the risks you're taking, and things will inevitably go wrong for some. In this case they are not killing sherpas while they're at it, which is somewhat better, but that dad and the CEO can fuck off frankly. No 19 year old is a competent judge of risk. Probably broadly supportive of rescue efforts; I think the hypocrisy wrt the recent ship deaths is an entirely fair point, but this is more something to hammer politicians with than the fault of any of the parties directly involved here (the passengers, ships coming to rescue etc). Sincerely hope everyone involved can sue the shit out of Rush or his estate.
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
They can’t get out, it can only be unbolted from outside, which is entirely sensible if you think about it.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
You can’t have it both ways. One of the main hypotheses in the Med is that the activity of Greek coastguard led to the incident . This may or may not be true. But no one is saying they weren’t there early on. Hundreds died. 104 were saved.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
So people - including his own employee - have been raising the alarm on the safety of this sub since 2018 and the CEO just breezed ahead. Titanic submersible: documents reveal multiple concerns raised over safety of vessel
What an arsehole. I don't know what US law is like but in the UK getting people to sign a waiver doesn't mean you can be negligent. If the CEO survives I'm not sure the company will.
What an arsehole. I don't know what US law is like but in the UK getting people to sign a waiver doesn't mean you can be negligent. If the CEO survives I'm not sure the company will.
Hamish Harding's friend pulled out of sub trip over 'safety concerns'
Chris Brown, 61, had paid the deposit to go on the doomed voyage, but says he changed his mind after becoming concerned by the quality of technology and materials used in the vessel.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Even if they could get out, they are over 2km down. And if they could manage to rise 2km to the surface the nitrogen in the blood would kill them.
They hare 4000 m beneath the surface. even if they could get out without being crushed, which obviously they can’t, they can’t swim vertically 4K without wetsuit, breathing equipment. The temperature is another issue. and knowing which way up is. Not so easy when you’re underwater.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
What’s your Wow for?
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Did you mean to quote me? My "wow" was about the prospect of them needing to entertain doing this, imagining what it might be like.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
No sorry. BHS.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
No worries, I realised afterwards it was a different post
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
I wouldn’t - because I’d want to be alive in case my child was next on the kill list. You can’t protect anyone if you’re already dead, so no, I wouldn’t take myself out/let myself be killed. ‘Put your own oxygen mask on first’ etc.
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