The Wire comes to BBC2 (Spoiler free, please)
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spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
Randy, btw - cheese's son.
Only worked that out on this viewing. apparently it's never directly alluded to (they both share a surname) but it's part of DS's story web.
Only worked that out on this viewing. apparently it's never directly alluded to (they both share a surname) but it's part of DS's story web.
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
Talking of him, has anyone else ever googled Randy's step mother and looked at the .co.uk site of that name?
I suggest you don't do it from work.
I suggest you don't do it from work.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
Nah he's a complex character. Without Herc Marlo would never have fallen.
Gingerman said:
It breaks my heart for the scene where Carver is punching his steering wheel because he can't take Dukie, he knows what Dukie is going to go through.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
you mean randy
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
shakes fist. Yes. Yes. I did.
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
Or another version: Without Levy manipulating Herc (telling him he had his phone number), Marlo wouldn't now be a multi-million dollar property developer.
Or another version: Without McNulty creating his serial killer and Templeton picking up on it, there would be no wiretap.
Or another version: Without the good Senator telling Lester about the Grand Jury leak there would be nothing with which to barter with Levy about, and Marlo would be free to continue as before
etc.
starfish
No dialogue. Just plot.
Some fall. Millionaire drug baron to millionaire business man.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
He lasted a evening as a businessman. He's out on a corner.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
And it's because of Herc lazy fucked up idiocy, Sherrod would still be alive.
But I love the bald retard like he was my fucked up son.
starfish
No dialogue. Just plot.
I thought he just went for a walk for old times sake.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
How many walks do you go on that ends with you killing some corner hopper? I think Marlo leaves the party and takes a corner, because thats all he knows.
Its 'sposed to be an ambiguous ending for the charecter - Despite never finding out his ultimate fate, we see Marlo getting everything that Stringer wanted, not valuing it. He can't face the "real world", as all he ever wanted was power on the street. When he can't have that, he basically has nothing. Although he does not get locked up, it is hard to see being out of "the game" (even with loads of money) as a victory for him...
starfish
No dialogue. Just plot.
Yould be surprised
. I didnt think the corner thing was intentional on his part, i though he just left the party & went for a walk around his old area. Maybe youre right though.
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
Yeah but remember what Rhona warns Levy with, the case against Marlo is left open and it's made clear that if they catch a scent that Marlo is still in the game, they'll bring the hammer down.
Marlo is like the perfect animal of the corners. He's brilliant and ruthless and it's all he knows. The only way he's going to leave the game is prison or as a corpse. He's like Avon's terrifying heir.
trabuquera
Modesty Bag
About this: I read somewhere - I think in an interview / blog with David Simon - that if you think about it, Stringer's entire career was about trying to drag himself and Barksdale into that room with Baltimore's big movers and shakers - and they both died in the process. Whereas Marlo, through being a ruthless little bastard, gets that opportunity and has no real interest in it - though whether from unease or contempt it's hard to say. Odd echoes again of the doomed Bad Kids' Dinner Out from series 4 (based on a real incident from Ed Burns' time int he schools) - where Bunny takes Namond etc out to 'celebrate' some minor academic achievement to a posh restaurant and they're totally ill at ease and like fish out of water.
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
Marlo knows the game though; on the street he plays, in Levy's world he's played: King or punk, it seems that clear.
Stringer is no comparison; Stinger had esteem issues and class-related aspirations. He was weak, and arrogant and crass, imo.
Stringer is no comparison; Stinger had esteem issues and class-related aspirations. He was weak, and arrogant and crass, imo.
moonsi til
worked it out now!
I got the impression that Marlo knew that the business men were punks just like he was but Stringer didn't see this due to the esteem and them/us issues.
I didn't get how he knew about Cheese's role in Prop Joe's death...?
He worked it out, he's no dummy Slim Charles.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
as mentioned, when props business went to cheese it was obvious, and then Cheese stumping up such a large amount of cash...Slim added 2 and 2
The Octagon
Stop...Hammertime
Slim never trusted Cheese anyway, and both he and Prop Joe discussed Cheese selling Butchie out (although Prop Joe knew he couldn't 'make a move against kin' straight away).
Then, once Joe is killed (and Slim will have been told by Fat Face Rick that Omar didn't do it), it's logical to assume it was Marlo.
Then Marlo dishes out the prime East-side business to Cheese, a promotion far above what he would normally expect.
Finally, Cheese goes off on his rant about how his loyalty changes depending on who is on top, Slim didn't really need to hear any more.
London_Calling
Pleasant and unpatronising
I liked the way Cheese's hand twitched as they drove away. Motherfucker.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I blame prop joe for prop joes death. Showing Marlo how to clean money and get shonky ID etc? signed his own death warrant.
Marlo wasn't exactly giving the Greek a choice. Prop was getting dropped from the minute he tried to civilise Marlo
Marlo wasn't exactly giving the Greek a choice. Prop was getting dropped from the minute he tried to civilise Marlo
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