Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
My sister was in that!
The TV & films lonely post thread
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T & P
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As I was watching last night yet another example of a film or TV series casting British actors playing American characters, I kind of wondered if it pisses off the many American actors of similar stature that could have filled the roles in question.
I kind of get a studio casting a proper A-list, Oscar-worthy Brit to play an American character in a big budget production, because of the pulling power of said megastar. But there are so many films and series of lower profile who employ ‘B-list’ Brits for American roles that could have been filled by a thousand similarly competent American actors… And it’s stuff filmed in America as well, so no excuse of the production being in London and therefore it being cheaper to cast people locally.
The series that prompted me to post this, Servant, is a prime example. Three out of the four all-American main characters are played by Brits. One of them Rupert bloody Grint of Harry Potter fame. Though his credit and that of the casting team, he’s surprisingly good and has a convincing enough accent. But still…
I kind of get a studio casting a proper A-list, Oscar-worthy Brit to play an American character in a big budget production, because of the pulling power of said megastar. But there are so many films and series of lower profile who employ ‘B-list’ Brits for American roles that could have been filled by a thousand similarly competent American actors… And it’s stuff filmed in America as well, so no excuse of the production being in London and therefore it being cheaper to cast people locally.
The series that prompted me to post this, Servant, is a prime example. Three out of the four all-American main characters are played by Brits. One of them Rupert bloody Grint of Harry Potter fame. Though his credit and that of the casting team, he’s surprisingly good and has a convincing enough accent. But still…
T & P
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Can anyone recommend me a good website that recommends you good stuff to watch on both TV channels and streaming services on a day-by-day basis, tailored to the UK?
There are plenty of sites that will make limited recommendations, but I am yet to see one that covers all of the free-to-air channels, subscription channels, and streaming services. It’s also highly annoying when you search for ‘what’s good on Shudder UK this month’, get recommended something tgst sounds great, and then can’t find it available because you’ve been directed to a site listing Shudder listings for the USA.
Is there a magic website that does it all?
There are plenty of sites that will make limited recommendations, but I am yet to see one that covers all of the free-to-air channels, subscription channels, and streaming services. It’s also highly annoying when you search for ‘what’s good on Shudder UK this month’, get recommended something tgst sounds great, and then can’t find it available because you’ve been directed to a site listing Shudder listings for the USA.
Is there a magic website that does it all?
T & P
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How on earth has Death in Paradise been going twelve years strong, and apparently still so popular it is now spawning a spin-off series??
It’s not the worst programme ever made, and it's comfort easy vanilla entertainment, which I guess the BBC needs to serve constantly as part of its commitment to provide content for everyone.
But still, as a murder mystery series, even a comedic light hearted one, it is embarrassingly badly written plot-wise, and formulaic as fuck. Also laden with ludicrous plot holes and laughably incompetent police investigative skills that make the Famous Five look like Agatha Christie
In virtually every episode, the obvious suspect at the time will just have to express their innocence very intently and passionately whilst under interrogation, and the coppers will take their word for it and start to doubt themselves and look defeated.
I won’t even go into the issue of the rather patronising concept of an independent former French territory somehow needing to rely on English police detectives to solve their crimes.
It’s not the worst programme ever made, and it's comfort easy vanilla entertainment, which I guess the BBC needs to serve constantly as part of its commitment to provide content for everyone.
But still, as a murder mystery series, even a comedic light hearted one, it is embarrassingly badly written plot-wise, and formulaic as fuck. Also laden with ludicrous plot holes and laughably incompetent police investigative skills that make the Famous Five look like Agatha Christie
In virtually every episode, the obvious suspect at the time will just have to express their innocence very intently and passionately whilst under interrogation, and the coppers will take their word for it and start to doubt themselves and look defeated.
I won’t even go into the issue of the rather patronising concept of an independent former French territory somehow needing to rely on English police detectives to solve their crimes.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
I've always called it Scooby-Doo for grown-ups and I still stand by that description. All it needs is an episode where at that final reveal meeting they pull a mask off of someone.
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
I've now got to the episode of Euphoria where Lexy stages her play where all the characters are very obviously based on the people around her, and I thought "oh, they stole this idea off..." and now I'm hitting a blank, but I have a very strong memory of some television show that stages a play-within-a-show where someone offends all their friends by staging a play that clearly features crude caricatures of them, and especially one particular character who's portrayed as like a hypersexual, semi-coherent troll creature dragging around a sack of potatoes or something? Can anyone tell me what I'm thinking of? I want to say IASIP but I'm not sure if it is? Does anyone write a play-within-a-show in Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, maybe?
EDIT: OHHH, FRESH MEAT, I WAS THINKING OF FRESH MEAT
EDIT: OHHH, FRESH MEAT, I WAS THINKING OF FRESH MEAT
Idk, but now you've got me wondering if I vaguely remember the same thing or I'm just imagining it since you put the idea in my head. So thanks, hth etc.
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
It definitely is Fresh Meat I was thinking of, so depends whether you've seen Fresh Meat or not?
Ah you edited after/while I was replying before.
I haven't seen Fresh Meat and I'm pretty sure all the things I could vaguely remember where something happened that was kind of like that bit in Euphoria, were me half-remembering actual bits of Euphoria
I have seen Fresh Meat but fucked if I remember that. Did they just get Jack Whitehall to turn up out of character?
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Oregon wrote it, if that helps?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Theres a scene in Kingdom of Heaven near the start where you can see why 'poleaxed' works as a verb. The posh norman chap is calling on the code and asking to be ransomed when one of Liam Neesons saxons' just slams a pick onna pole right into his skull. Ransom denied.
While I'm on the theme Neeson's dyng speech about 'jerusalem is a place where etc etc a dream' is tonally exactly the same speech as Oliver Reed's whole 'Rome was once an idea, you could only whisper it' scene from Gladiator.
While I'm on the theme Neeson's dyng speech about 'jerusalem is a place where etc etc a dream' is tonally exactly the same speech as Oliver Reed's whole 'Rome was once an idea, you could only whisper it' scene from Gladiator.
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I need to give that another go, this time trying to finish the first act and resist the urge to fast forward to the space part of the film. Call me a philistine all you must.
savoloysam
Pigman's pigman's ha ha charade you are..
Dick Laurent is dead.
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
No need to do that, I think we all know you’re one
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People’s voices obviously change with age, so it’s impressive that some professional voice actors have pulled off playing the same character for more than three decades without a noticeable shift (ie some at The Simpsons).
But is there anyone more impressive in that department than Frank Welker, aka the original Fred Jones & Scooby Doo in the Scooby franchise? He was 23 when he first voiced them back in 1969, and he’s still doing so today aged nearly 80, and he sounds the bloody same.
How in the hell he manages to do that is astonishing. But his CV is even more amazing; he has done and continues to do an unbelievable amount of other characters from the Marvel universe to the Simpsons, video games, and everything in between. IMDB lists his acting roles to date to be 889. That has to be the all-time record, surely?
Frank Welker: the greatest voice actor who ever lived
But is there anyone more impressive in that department than Frank Welker, aka the original Fred Jones & Scooby Doo in the Scooby franchise? He was 23 when he first voiced them back in 1969, and he’s still doing so today aged nearly 80, and he sounds the bloody same.
How in the hell he manages to do that is astonishing. But his CV is even more amazing; he has done and continues to do an unbelievable amount of other characters from the Marvel universe to the Simpsons, video games, and everything in between. IMDB lists his acting roles to date to be 889. That has to be the all-time record, surely?
Frank Welker: the greatest voice actor who ever lived
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
Idea possibly taken from an obscure 16th century English stage play called "Hamlet."
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Saw it on rerelease maybe 7or 8 years back. They had the pre-credits music and interval. Felt very old school. Was so happy to finally see it on the big screen.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Becoming Elizabeth was quality historical drama and I can't believe Starz didn't' renew it for a second season 
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
Oooh... For number of roles, in with a good shout. But better than Mel Blanc?People’s voices obviously change with age, so it’s impressive that some professional voice actors have pulled off playing the same character for more than three decades without a noticeable shift (ie some at The Simpsons).
But is there anyone more impressive in that department than Frank Welker, aka the original Fred Jones & Scooby Doo in the Scooby franchise? He was 23 when he first voiced them back in 1969, and he’s still doing so today aged nearly 80, and he sounds the bloody same.
How in the hell he manages to do that is astonishing. But his CV is even more amazing; he has done and continues to do an unbelievable amount of other characters from the Marvel universe to the Simpsons, video games, and everything in between. IMDB lists his acting roles to date to be 889. That has to be the all-time record, surely?
Frank Welker: the greatest voice actor who ever lived
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
I reckon Shakespeare probably nicked the idea off that episode of Fresh Meat.
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
Yes we had that too. I quite liked the music, it was a sort of palate cleanser for what you were about to see - which of course is in large parts completely alien
to what you’d expect from a film and particularly the science fiction genre.
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In a similar vein to Indiana Jones’s actions or even his very presence in Raiders of the Lost Ark making no difference to the eventual fate of the Nazis who found and opened The Ark of the Covenant, the xenomorphs in Aliens would have been destroyed by the catastrophic failure thermonuclear explosion at the terraforming complex very soon after the acid-blooded angry fuckers killed all the humans maintaining the place, regardless of Ripley’s arrival and subsequent heroics destroying the queen alien’s egg offspring.
In fact, if the marines’ ship had arrived at the planet a mere day or two earlier after their extremely long voyage to get there, they would have found nothing but a crater, sparing the human race from any further immediate exposure to the face-raping arseholes. Thanks a lot, Ripley
In fact, if the marines’ ship had arrived at the planet a mere day or two earlier after their extremely long voyage to get there, they would have found nothing but a crater, sparing the human race from any further immediate exposure to the face-raping arseholes. Thanks a lot, Ripley
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
last night Mrs Q and I watched "Flower Drum Song" a film actually one year older than she is.
Basic summary of plot: The parents of Girl A and Guy 1 organise their wedding sight unseen, Girl A (and Dad) are smuggled into the US from China (in a box). Guy 1 doesn't want Girl A since he is loving the single life and basically gives Girl A to the father of Guy 2 who wants an old fashioned DiL who knows her place. Guy 2 barely acknowledges Girl A since he has the hots for Girl B so Guy 2 who has been stringing Girl B along for five years arranges for Guy 2 and family to discover that Girl B is a nightclub singer and most definitely not a suitable DiL for a pillar of the community. Guy 2 goes off and gets drunk out of the shame and is rescued by Girl C who has carried a torch for him since childhood. Sobering up he walks out on her and goes home to declare his love for Girl A who is now narked at being viewed as a consolation prize and stomps off. Mum of Guy 1 and Girl A pressure them to get married anyway since biological clocks are ticking away here. At the wedding Girl A declares she is an illegal immigrant and Mum turns out to be as stuck up as Guy 2's Dad. Bit of confusion ensues and there is a double wedding with Guy 1/Girl B and Guy 2/Girl A with Girl C (at the wedding) putting a brave face on being stuck in Friendzone.
"What a load of outdated sexist crap" declares Mrs Q "What should have happened is the three of them become best friends and leave that pair of losers stood at the altar"
Big though they were in their time, Rodgers and Hammerstein have aged as well as they might. The best thing in the film was Nancy Kwan (The World of Suzy Wong) as Girl B who I've never seen in a musical before and it seems can sing as good as she looks which is saying something.
Basic summary of plot: The parents of Girl A and Guy 1 organise their wedding sight unseen, Girl A (and Dad) are smuggled into the US from China (in a box). Guy 1 doesn't want Girl A since he is loving the single life and basically gives Girl A to the father of Guy 2 who wants an old fashioned DiL who knows her place. Guy 2 barely acknowledges Girl A since he has the hots for Girl B so Guy 2 who has been stringing Girl B along for five years arranges for Guy 2 and family to discover that Girl B is a nightclub singer and most definitely not a suitable DiL for a pillar of the community. Guy 2 goes off and gets drunk out of the shame and is rescued by Girl C who has carried a torch for him since childhood. Sobering up he walks out on her and goes home to declare his love for Girl A who is now narked at being viewed as a consolation prize and stomps off. Mum of Guy 1 and Girl A pressure them to get married anyway since biological clocks are ticking away here. At the wedding Girl A declares she is an illegal immigrant and Mum turns out to be as stuck up as Guy 2's Dad. Bit of confusion ensues and there is a double wedding with Guy 1/Girl B and Guy 2/Girl A with Girl C (at the wedding) putting a brave face on being stuck in Friendzone.
"What a load of outdated sexist crap" declares Mrs Q "What should have happened is the three of them become best friends and leave that pair of losers stood at the altar"
Big though they were in their time, Rodgers and Hammerstein have aged as well as they might. The best thing in the film was Nancy Kwan (The World of Suzy Wong) as Girl B who I've never seen in a musical before and it seems can sing as good as she looks which is saying something.
