The Tuts make dubious allegations after Brixton Windmill gig

[Kanda]

You don't think so?

Nasty campaign against a local bar starts up on Twitter and collectively the urban community (and newcomers) provide context and a more balanced view which results in a much fairer viewpoint being presented.

I'd say that's something to be proud of.

Yes. It's cool. Unlike the Brickbox/Angel thread...

 

[RubyToogood]

If the Tuts camp don't like this thread, they're really not going to like the response to Tim's statement on Facebook, which is post after post of musicians, promoters and punters queuing up to say that they love the Windmill and think the band are full of shit. This thread is really balanced by comparison.

 

[Badgers]

Yes. It's cool. Unlike the Brickbox/Angel thread...

The Tuts are playing at BrickBox this weekend. You fancy going? Won't be cheap mind.

 

[Dan U]

If the Tuts camp don't like this thread, they're really not going to like the response to Tim's statement on Facebook, which is post after post of musicians, promoters and punters queuing up to say that they love the Windmill and think the band are full of shit. This thread is really balanced by comparison.

where is that then? what facebook page?

 

[Badgers]

where is that then? what facebook page?

The Windmills

 

[Dan U]

The Windmills

oh right, couldn't find one.

eta - was my bad, had put in THE by mistake

 

[Winot]

The Tuts are playing at BrickBox this weekend. You fancy going? Won't be cheap mind.

Will there be food?

 

[Badgers]

Will there be food?

Only African fruit carved into the shape of pygmy hermaphrodites sadly.

 

[Dan U]

Will there be food?

racist food.

that facebook stuff is pretty mixed, the chap who works behind the bar has an interesting take. Funnily enough someone called Nadia has been linking posts but comments come there none.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

If the Tuts camp don't like this thread, they're really not going to like the response to Tim's statement on Facebook, which is post after post of musicians, promoters and punters queuing up to say that they love the Windmill and think the band are full of shit. This thread is really balanced by comparison.

But that's only beause they're all terrible sexists who haven't watched enough old Jodie Foster films.

 

[ViolentPanda]

i like them as well. i'm a shit revolutionary.

I've not yet seen a Jag model that didn't look elegant. Rollers, on the other hand, have spent the last 30-40 years looking like saloons on steroids.

 

[snowy_again]

The Windmill facebook page seems to be getting lots of support; with lots of comments about the tuts behaving badly on the night (well I say the tuts, it seems it's just the singer).

 

[ViolentPanda]

But that's only beause they're all terrible sexists who haven't watched enough old Jodie Foster films.

TBF, they're probably lucky the sisterhood is into solidarity, or I reckon they'd be getting more of a pasting from feminists for trying to make this a gender issue rather than an "idiot with a sense of entitlement acting like an idiot" issue.

 

[twistedAM]

This shit is really pissing me off. I have taken my own booze into places many times. Normally got away with it but sometimes have been caught and have had repercussions e.g. barrings or the occasional punch for acting like a prick. Fucking deal with it Nadia, u started this shit by brazenly drinking vodka on stage and now your complaining.
Windmill is one the best venues in London and after putting nights on, playing gigs and drinking heavily there I have never seen anything but friendliness and good people.
Starting an anti Windmill campaign???
Lame

Ha ha. That reminds me of the time I caught you with EIGHT Stellas and took them off you and said you could collect them at the end of the night. You forgot, so after a week or so I gave them to a skint touring band.
They appreciated it

 

[editor]

The Windmill facebook page seems to be getting lots of support; with lots of comments about the tuts behaving badly on the night (well I say the tuts, it seems it's just the singer).

When I first read this on Twitter, it looked really, really awful for the venue.

People were uncritically re-tweeting the alleged reports of racism and violence, boycotts were being called for, bands were cancelling and I started to worry about the future viability of the venue.

Thank fuck the full story has come out.

 

[cesare]

TBF, they're probably lucky the sisterhood is into solidarity, or I reckon they'd be getting more of a pasting from feminists for trying to make this a gender issue rather than an "idiot with a sense of entitlement acting like an idiot" issue.

I resisted properly piling in, not from sisterhood solidarity reasons - just that the thread might have taken off away from main issues onto the side "playing the sexism card" track.

 

[snowy_again]

When I first read this on Twitter, it looked really, really awful for the venue.

People were uncritically re-tweeting the alleged reports of racism and violence, boycotts were being called for, bands were cancelling and I started to worry about the future viability of the venue.

Thank fuck the full story has come out.

The one sided account is still being circulated on FB though...

 

[editor]

*I've just added 'pub' to the title as it's been reported that some folks were assuming that it had all kicked off inside the actual windmill!

Sails of hate!

 

[paolo]

Maybe I'm mistaken, but looks like The Tut's have deleted their own FB posts, on their own FB page, about how violent they / their gigs are.

 

[editor]

The one sided account is still being circulated on FB though...

Type in 'Windmill racism' and this thread is right at the top, so hopefully any bands looking into this will quickly find this discussion.

Someone's already written the book, mind.

 

[Badgers]

Maybe I'm mistaken, but looks like The Tut's have deleted their own FB posts, on their own FB page, about how violent they / their gigs are.

Really?

 

[RaverDrew]

Maybe I'm mistaken, but looks like The Tut's have deleted their own FB posts, on their own FB page, about how violent they / their gigs are.

Yup I noticed that too, a post about how trouble seems to always follow them round, says it all really...

 

[ViolentPanda]

I resisted properly piling in, not from sisterhood solidarity reasons - just that the thread might have taken off away from main issues onto the side "playing the sexism card" track.

Fair enough, although I don't think it's a sidetrack, but rather one of the main issues. After all, the war-cries put up by some of the partisans for The Tuts were pretty open about linking Seamus's actions to sexism on his part.

 

[RaverDrew]

They seem quite pleased with themselves that all this has generated extra hits on their youtube video.

 

[editor]

This has turned into a PR disaster for The Tuts. Who's going to book them now?

 

[teuchter]

I've read the first few pages and then skipped to here. Have the racist comments allegations been proved to be untrue then?

 

[Badgers]

I've read the first few pages and then skipped to here. Have the racist comments allegations been proved to be untrue then?

Tenuous but not untrue.

 

[cesare]

Fair enough, although I don't think it's a sidetrack, but rather one of the main issues. After all, the war-cries put up by some of the partisans for The Tuts were pretty open about linking Seamus's actions to sexism on his part.

Ah, I thought that the sexist bleats only properly started once Drew posted the imperious tweets of three rads.

 

[editor]

Comment from one of their pals on their FB page:

can you please confirm for me that bringing in your own alcohol in to a pub will effect in verbal, physical and racial assault? Coz I will think twice next time my friends band playing a show and im short for cash but still wanna see the band and try to smuggle in few street beers. If in this case I would be ejected from the venue with a punch in my face then I would stick to a glass of tap water served by the friendly landlord...

 

[Mrs Magpie]

Maybe I'm mistaken, but looks like The Tut's have deleted their own FB posts, on their own FB page, about how violent they / their gigs are.

You're not mistaken. Wish I'd taken screenshots now.



eta. it's possible you and I imagined those posts, but I don't think so. I'm somewhat pissed off that some young women think feminism entails getting boozed up and violent like some sort of caricature of maleness