The Tuts make dubious allegations after Brixton Windmill gig
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discokermit
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some right wankness on this thread.
call the cops!
prosecute!
the police would have arrested him if he'd been racist!
but she smuggled in drinks! which is theft!
massive fucking lol.
call the cops!
prosecute!
the police would have arrested him if he'd been racist!
but she smuggled in drinks! which is theft!
massive fucking lol.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
This place is like the Hotel California. 
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
discokermit
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talking of proportionate responses, i should give you a good thrashing just for thinking about it.Personally, I thought that the suggestion "scratch disco's jag" had merit.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
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discokermit
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not that recent.
discokermit recently
discokermit
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i like them as well. i'm a shit revolutionary.
ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
This thread is as good as it gets?
Somebody shoot me now.
wurlycurly
diss member
It's been a revolutionary thread for me in that I've gone from one clear-cut view to the other. Started of as Mr Outraged in defence of the poor TUTTS, now realise they're tragic figures who sound like Lily Allen covering old Shop Assistants songs. They should get full-arm tattoos; all the attention without the unnecessary aggro.
discokermit said:
Perhaps we should allow the guy's reputation to be destroyed through smears then?
I'm no fan of the law. But at least people are assumed innocent until proven guilty down that path and he can have his day in court. What justice is this that you champion?
discokermit
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i'm not saying destroy his reputation through smears. but "day in court"? what the fuck do the courts or the coppers have to do with justice?
ethel
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my first thread in a couple of years. i should probably go back to posting more...
Basically the complainants feel the landlord's response to their indiscretion was disproportionate to the alleged (although admitted) crime. Yet completely missing the irony of how disproportionate their response now is. Although, if I was in their shoes, I'd probably just want it all to go away right now. Sobering up and some apologies would have been so much simpler than this crapstorm. Made a good thread though. But we argue for fun, they might not, dunno. They've gone awfully quiet though.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
if someone got nicked in these circumstances that'd be their reputation fucked. Nobody would even know if they then got acquitted a few months down the line.
free spirit said:
The police turned up. He wasn't nicked. They're trashing his reputation anyway. Have you read the thread or just Chipping in on the last page? And as if people 'wouldn' t know' the outcome. The whole reason why it is being discussed is because it's the Windmill which has links to this site. Christ, I've even been there myself because of here albeit a few years ago now.
discokermit
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not even slightly similar. i would call the police to get the crime number required by the insurance to replace the car, not to get justice. what next, "how can you call yourself a socialist if you wear shoes"?
free spirit
more tea vicar?
Kids these days wouldn't have lasted long in the 90s.
try having 50 riot police busting your party in full riot gear, locking up 5 and attacking others with dogs, or being smacked several times by a bouncer for handing out flyers outside their club, or a million and one other examples that'd make this seem like the girl here was treated with kid gloves.
if you're going to go waving a vodka bottle around on stage, offering it to the audience, then telling the manager to fuck off to his face, and then leg it round the club when he tries to throw you out, then you're going to get ejected with a fair degree of force whatever sex / race you are. It's just one of the hazards of being a pissed up struggling musician, and personally I'd have woken up in the morning cringing from the embarrassment of having made such a complete tit of myself, and glad that I'd not actually been taken out the back for a proper kicking instead.
I must have seen this sort of shit a thousand times when flyering / running the nights, and 99% of the time the bouncers were pretty justified in their actions, even if they possibly could have handled things better in a perfect world.
You'll often get other drunk gig goers who've only seen a small part of the whole thing then kicking off with the bouncers / owner and sometimes trying to get the police involved as seems to be the case here, not understanding that the police and bouncers / club owners deal with similar situations together regularly so the only action the police might take would be to cart the drunk complainer off to the cells for the night, unless the bouncers had actually beaten someone to a bloody pulp.
This is how nightlife works. Don't like it, then either don't go out, or don't act like a twat and disrespect the venue manager in his venue. If you're going to act like a twat regularly then expect to take some knocks along the way, and spend some night in police cells for good measure if you don't walk away.
try having 50 riot police busting your party in full riot gear, locking up 5 and attacking others with dogs, or being smacked several times by a bouncer for handing out flyers outside their club, or a million and one other examples that'd make this seem like the girl here was treated with kid gloves.
if you're going to go waving a vodka bottle around on stage, offering it to the audience, then telling the manager to fuck off to his face, and then leg it round the club when he tries to throw you out, then you're going to get ejected with a fair degree of force whatever sex / race you are. It's just one of the hazards of being a pissed up struggling musician, and personally I'd have woken up in the morning cringing from the embarrassment of having made such a complete tit of myself, and glad that I'd not actually been taken out the back for a proper kicking instead.
I must have seen this sort of shit a thousand times when flyering / running the nights, and 99% of the time the bouncers were pretty justified in their actions, even if they possibly could have handled things better in a perfect world.
You'll often get other drunk gig goers who've only seen a small part of the whole thing then kicking off with the bouncers / owner and sometimes trying to get the police involved as seems to be the case here, not understanding that the police and bouncers / club owners deal with similar situations together regularly so the only action the police might take would be to cart the drunk complainer off to the cells for the night, unless the bouncers had actually beaten someone to a bloody pulp.
This is how nightlife works. Don't like it, then either don't go out, or don't act like a twat and disrespect the venue manager in his venue. If you're going to act like a twat regularly then expect to take some knocks along the way, and spend some night in police cells for good measure if you don't walk away.
discokermit
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that kid shoulda bought a ticket, he deserved to get chucked off the train.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
actually thinking about it, it wasn't just in the 90s - last year I found myself outside a club with my arms being held by one bouncer while another used my face as a punch bag.
I say found myself, because I was twatted and tbh couldn't really remember what I might have done or said to provoke them, although apparently my original crime was turning the smoke machine off in the DJ booth.
personally I reckon that was a bit out of order, but filed it in the 'shit happens when drunk' file and left it at that... I also took that as a bit of a harsh lesson on why I shouldn't get myself into such states in public, and a reminder not to be a mouthy twat to bouncers I don't know.
I say found myself, because I was twatted and tbh couldn't really remember what I might have done or said to provoke them, although apparently my original crime was turning the smoke machine off in the DJ booth.
personally I reckon that was a bit out of order, but filed it in the 'shit happens when drunk' file and left it at that... I also took that as a bit of a harsh lesson on why I shouldn't get myself into such states in public, and a reminder not to be a mouthy twat to bouncers I don't know.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
I thought you were making the point that he'd somehow be better off if the police did arrest him as he'd then have the opportunity to prove himself innocent.
If you weren't making that point, then I apologise for thinking you were, and please ignore my response.
If you were, then your point is wrong for the reasons stated. Everyone in the scene would know about him being arrested, as this would be gossip that would spread like wildfire, but only a small percentage of those people would then be aware at a later point if he'd been acquitted as this wouldn't attract anything like the attention of the initial arrest. Unless he owned the venue, he'd also quite likely be suspended pending the results of the police action, which would also be picked up on as an indication of his guilt.
This shit is really pissing me off. I have taken my own booze into places many times. Normally got away with it but sometimes have been caught and have had repercussions e.g. barrings or the occasional punch for acting like a prick. Fucking deal with it Nadia, u started this shit by brazenly drinking vodka on stage and now your complaining.
Windmill is one the best venues in London and after putting nights on, playing gigs and drinking heavily there I have never seen anything but friendliness and good people.
Starting an anti Windmill campaign???
Lame
Windmill is one the best venues in London and after putting nights on, playing gigs and drinking heavily there I have never seen anything but friendliness and good people.
Starting an anti Windmill campaign???
Lame
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hiraethified
You don't think so?Crispy said:
Nasty campaign against a local bar starts up on Twitter and collectively the urban community (and newcomers) provide context and a more balanced view which results in a much fairer viewpoint being presented.
I'd say that's something to be proud of.
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