The Trump presidency

[coley]

A while back, I mentioned that Sanders had an easy ride from the mainstream media (that wanted to promote a "horse race" for clicks and revenue) and the GOP (happy to let the Democratic candidates beat up each other.)

If by some miracle he'd have captured the nomination, the kid gloves would have come off and the GOP would have eviscerated him. Among other things, they' have made hay with the investigation of Jane Sanders' murky financial dealings with regard to Burlington College, which may still be under investigation with the FBI. (And please, saying, "But, this is to do with his spouse, not him," because that horse left on the wagontrain long ago.)

See Feds investigated college once run by Bernie Sanders’ wife.

And case details (extract of letter below) can be downloaded from here.

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Apologies for dragging this back to 2016 folks.

Then why do it?
Isn't the TTT providing enough daily fodder?
HC and Sanders are 'yesterday's news' neither are likely to be future candidates, let's concentrate on the damage the subject of this thread is likely to cause.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

With what he says is a $12 million stake from secret investors, the former Breitbart tech editor is launching Milo Inc., a live-event touring company, dedicated to making progressives’ lives a “living hell.”

Milo Yiannopoulos Is Starting a New, Ugly, For-Profit Troll Circus


Perhaps Milo should team up with certain U75 posters to make things 'hot' for 'liberals'?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Back to the real story: Russia.

Less than six months ago, Mark Zuckerberg dismissed the idea that the social publishing platform he founded was being used to manipulate voters as “pretty crazy.”

But in a new report, Facebook now says it has data that “does not contradict” a key U.S. intelligence report that describes “information warfare” ordered by Russian President Vladimir Putin and carried out on Facebook and across the web.

Facebook says it detected several “subtle and insidious” kinds of coordinated attempts to harm the reputation of “specific political targets” during the 2016 campaign, describing “malicious actors leveraging conventional and social media to share information stolen from other sources, such as email accounts, with the intent of harming the reputation of specific political targets.” Spokespeople for Facebook declined to answer my questions about which political target and stolen email information the Facebook report was referring to, but the intelligence report that Facebook links to describes “high confidence” in the assessment that Russian intelligence relayed hacked emails between senior Democratic officials to WikiLeaks to undermine Clinton. “Moscow most likely chose WikiLeaks because of its self-proclaimed reputation for authenticity,” the DNI report says. “Disclosures through WikiLeaks did not contain any evident forgeries.”

Without mentioning Russia or WikiLeaks, however, Facebook describes actors that create fake personas on Facebook as a way to direct people to the stolen data. “From there, organic proliferation of the messaging and data through authentic peer groups and networks was inevitable,” Facebook wrote.

Facebook Data ‘Does Not Contradict’ Intelligence on Russia Meddling

 

[teqniq]

'Loyalty day' ffs

 

[bimble]

I find that properly frightening, this his renaming of may 1st.
Edit: ah I see it's more of a revival reinvention than an actual new idea. All presidents have 'proclaimed' it apparently, every year since 1958
'The holiday was first observed in 1921, during the First Red Scare'..

 

[J Ed]

Milo Yiannopoulos Is Starting a New, Ugly, For-Profit Troll Circus


Perhaps Milo should team up with certain U75 posters to make things 'hot' for 'liberals'?

What is wrong with you? You complain about personal abuse then post disgusting innuendo like this.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

A Trump/Sting mashup:

 

[spring-peeper]

26 photos that show the US-Mexico border's evolution over 100 years

 

[J Ed]

A Trump/Sting mashup:

You dare to complain about relevance on this thread then you post this vacuous crap.

 

[CrabbedOne]

On MEE Trump's first 100 days: Pro-Israel hawks disappointed by unfulfilled promises

...
"On Israel/Palestine, he's been nothing but a relatively conventional Republican president: Look to build a relationship with the Israelis, chide them a little on settlements and try to restrain them."

Trump has made a show of strengthening the American-Israeli alliance. He gave a warm welcome to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and announced that his administration would not pursue the two-state solution. In the early stages of his administration, Israeli settlement announcements were greeted with silence from the White House, a departure from previous administrations that condemned Israeli settlements as an obstacle to peace.

He has also made appointments that pleased right-wing pro-Israel groups. His ambassador to Israel, David Friedman, raised millions of dollars for the West Bank settlement of Beit El. His ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, has become a rock star in pro-Israel circles for her repeated denunciations of UN criticism of the state.

"There's been a dramatic change since the last administration, the most hostile administration to Israel ever, to the Trump administration being extraordinarily friendly to Israel," Mort Klein, the president of the right-wing Zionist Organization of America, told Middle East Eye.

But the so-far unfulfilled promise of moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, which to many on the right would prove Trump is the most pro-Israel president in history, has led to some grumbles.
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Never happy.

 

[CrabbedOne]

On Bloomberg How Trump and Brexit Could Change Global Bank Rules

This is how a race to the bottom can start. In Washington, President Donald Trump has vowed to roll back the financial regulations passed after the 2008 crisis. In London, Prime Minister Theresa May, facing a possible exodus of bankers as Britain quits the European Union, has said she might fight any “punitive” trade measures from the EU with tax cuts or policy changes to attract investors and companies. At the same time, some EU member states could consider relaxed rules to entice London-based firms. In Brussels, Europe’s top regulators are angling to soften the latest round of international banking standards.

It wasn’t supposed to go like this. Until last year’s tectonic political shifts in the U.S. and U.K., financial regulators had been moving toward tougher rule-making and greater coordination. They’ve tried to stamp out “regulatory arbitrage”—banks moving their riskiest businesses to those jurisdictions with the weakest standards. The lesson of the financial panics of the 21st century, from Lehman Brothers to the European debt crisis, was that crises aren’t confined by national borders.
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We may be reaching peak swampy here with the world's two big financial centres together with the Europeans rotten banks eagerly rushing towards regulatory capture and away from the chastening lessons of 08.

Interesting that Wall St basically read Trump's brief rhetorical tilt against "globalists" as a crock but then they soon had their folks in good positions in his administration.

 

[Nylock]

Milo Yiannopoulos Is Starting a New, Ugly, For-Profit Troll Circus


Perhaps Milo should team up with certain U75 posters to make things 'hot' for 'liberals'?

 

[CrabbedOne]

On Politico Which campaign promises has Trump kept?

If I was a Trump supporter legislatively there's only really getting a new rightwing judge on the Supreme Court to get excited about and that happened by default. Though really pissing off US liberals must be quite gratifying and Trump is knocking that one out of the park.

Trump supporters appear quite as satisfied as Obama's hopey changey liberal muppets were at this stage. The US economy isn't looking bad though it really just a continuum with most recent improvements still stemming from the Obama era. The main difference is Wall St had a bit of a post-Obama speculative boom as they were expecting a series of big bungs from their well placed compadre's in the Whitehouse and the likes of Fox are now talking conditions up rather than down.

 

[J Ed]

Trump supporters appear quite as satisfied as Obama's hopey changey liberal muppets were at this stage.

Why wouldn't they be? Dupes, including on here, are literally calling opposition to Obama taking bribes 'racist'. That's at least, probably more, idiotic than Trump's supporters continuing to back Trump 100 days into his presidency.

 

[Idris2002]

Why wouldn't they be? Dupes, including on here, are literally calling opposition to Obama taking bribes 'racist'. That's at least, probably more, idiotic than Trump's supporters continuing to back Trump 100 days into his presidency.

I do think focussing so much on Obama personally was a tactical error.

 

[CrabbedOne]

Why wouldn't they be? Dupes, including on here, are literally calling opposition to Obama taking bribes 'racist'. That's at least, probably more, idiotic than Trump's supporters continuing to back Trump 100 days into his presidency.

Some really unworldly folk on here appear to have never met a Republican.

This may be shocking but I find once you get to know them they don't much mind being called racist when they behave in a racist manner just as folk in Belfast arguing about "flegs" are completely un phased by being called sectarian bigots. It's the idea of any sign of such preferences being inherently wrong or simply misguided they don't like. They are not all like that and even those that are often have redeeming features but delicate liberals desperately trying to avoid offending Republicans and empathise or silence their often un-PC views is one of the reasons they tend to despise Dems and cheer on Trump.

 

[J Ed]

edited: not going to even bother getting personal. Suffice to say CrabbedOne you are wrong, and frankly I don't think that you are as 'worldly' as you think you are.

 

[CRI]

Some really unworldly folk on here appear to have never met a Republican.

This may be shocking but I find once you get to know them they don't much mind being called racist when they behave in a racist manner just as folk in Belfast arguing about "flegs" are completely un phased by being called sectarian bigots. It's the idea of any sign of such preferences being inherently wrong or simply misguided they don't like. They are not all like that and even those that are often have redeeming features but delicate liberals desperately trying to avoid offending Republicans and empathise or silence their often un-PC views is one of the reasons they tend to despise Dems and cheer on Trump.

This, absolutely. Rather than feigning astonishment that anyone could suggest something they said or did was racist (as would probably happen here), they're more likely to explain in detail why they are right and you are mistaken.

Perhaps that's the problem with this forum - British folks who've never spent time with living, breathing Republicans assume they're just like white working class Sun-reading Tory voters here. They're not.

I honestly think many here assume that the US and UK are quite similar, maybe because of the language, maybe it's familiarity with the popular culture, I don't know. But the foundations, history and culture are very, very different. British people have more in common with other Europeans than they do Americans - honestly.

 

[J Ed]

You may not realise this yet, but condescending means talking down to someone

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Some really unworldly folk on here appear to have never met a Republican.

This may be shocking but I find once you get to know them they don't much mind being called racist when they behave in a racist manner just as folk in Belfast arguing about "flegs" are completely un phased by being called sectarian bigots. It's the idea of any sign of such preferences being inherently wrong or simply misguided they don't like. They are not all like that and even those that are often have redeeming features but delicate liberals desperately trying to avoid offending Republicans and empathise or silence their often un-PC views is one of the reasons they tend to despise Dems and cheer on Trump.

Well put; and well observed.

It's hard to beat the real-time experience of meeting and talking with Americans from various walks of life, in coming to an informed view of what life is like in the USA.

 

[TomUS]

Well put; and well observed.

It's hard to beat the real-time experience of meeting and talking with Americans from various walks of life, in coming to an informed view of what life is like in the USA.

It's also hard to beat being exposed to American right wing hate radio. Some on here sound very similar to them in denouncing the hated liberals.

 

[maomao]

It's also hard to beat being exposed to American right wing hate radio. Some on here sound very similar to them in denouncing the hated liberals.

Name names.

 

[spring-peeper]

Name names.

why?


maybe he is talking about those members that read and don't comment

 

[DotCommunist]

the conspiracy theory contiues apace. The russian hackers, in conjunction with misogyny and the alt-right trolls, aided by the bernie bro white socialists and the members of a clandestine group called urban75....

Draw the lines man, draw the lines.

 

[maomao]

why?

Because it's a baseless smear that several posters on this thread are using to try and silence other posters. No-one's said anything vaguely supportive of Trump in months but if you come on this thread and say anything to contradict the 4 or 5 posters that are posting most on this thread you'll be smeared as a racist and a right winger. Its disgusting behaviour.

maybe he is talking about those members that read and don't comment

How would he know what they sound like then?

 

[CRI]

It's also hard to beat being exposed to American right wing hate radio. Some on here sound very similar to them in denouncing the hated liberals.

Used to listen to right wing shock jocks on long road trips. Hard to fall asleep when you're shouting at the goddamned radio.

*whispers* (Horseshoe Theory)

 

[maomao]

*whispers* (Horseshoe Theory)

See?

 

[CRI]

Is this all to back up Crabbed One's observation that Republicans rarely even blanch if someone suggests a thing they've said or done might be racist, but in Britain, saying the same thing often results in folks running about with their hair on fire?

 

[CRI]

Meanwhile, the ACA is close to being repealed and replaced with a pile of steaming shite, particularly for anyone who's ever been ill before. But hey . . .



Linky for those who Twitter.

 

[CRI]

Because it's a baseless smear that several posters on this thread are using to try and silence other posters. No-one's said anything vaguely supportive of Trump in months but if you come on this thread and say anything to contradict the 4 or 5 posters that are posting most on this thread you'll be smeared as a racist and a right winger. Its disgusting behaviour.


How would he know what they sound like then?

It's an anonymous message board. Anyone can say what they want so long as mods allow it. I haven't noticed anyone being banned as a result of posts on this thread - correct me if I'm wrong. People are being challenged on things they say, but that's not the same as being "silenced."

Some members who live/have lived/have a lot of first hand experience in America are saying that they think others here with seemingly less direct experience are mistaken in some of their impressions. Is that really so surprising?