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bimble said:
This thing today about the allowing ISPs to sell your browsing history for money, I can't get my head around it. It's just that, no pretence of it having to do with terrorists or anything, just for sale to highest bidder. Seems impossible that this got voted for.
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I didn't hear about that, do you have a link?
 
DotCommunist said:
the ways its going ypu'll only be safe running puppy linux off a memory stick
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Tails on Tor.

I won't bother, flattered if anything that anyone would find my browsing history of interest. Maybe it'll lead to an improvement over those adds that stalk ya. Perhaps it'll lead to ads that break in and stare at you while you sleep, a more personal touch.
 
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On FP Has Moscow Already Taken Down the Trump Administration?

A podcast.

Is The Whitehouse "Tobogganing towards Gomorrah" as more and more smoke appears about concealed Russian connections? Will the Trump Teams child like perpetual lying and evasion end up with his dodgy squad of crap lieutenants facing criminal charges? Has Putin's buggering about in US electoral affairs actually backfired and not just ruined the chances of him getting anything but grief out of the bumbling Trump's unexpected election but energised authoritarians? With Wilders under performing and the ADF sinking in Germany are these shenanigans triggering a backlash against toxic populist tricksters the Russians have stealthily backed in Europe?

Are the FP Editorial board getting a bit carried away? Probably but it is fun.
 
littlebabyjesus said:
There is probably some point buried under this post, but I confess that I can't see it.
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Of those who voted for Trump, taken together the majority of those who did so were either women or people of colour or both. I think that is worth considering that when you think about the fact that people who have spent over a year now pushing essentialist identity politics, 'majority of black people/women back Clinton so Bernie is racist/sexist' are now turning around and attacking Trump voters as a whole and that is before you get to the classist discourse that is inseparable from liberal anti-Trumpism.

If we are talking about a 'stereotype' of an 'average Trump voter' as CRI proudly is then we are quite likely to be talking about someone who is a woman or a person of colour or both.
 
On Politico Trump’s Clumsy, Self-Defeating Attack on the Freedom Caucus
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The bigger danger for Trump is that he will be ignored and these members will coast to re-election (as most incumbents usually do anyway), and that will show how little influence he has in his own party. Trump also misunderstands the House members he is trying to bully if he thinks that going after them publicly like this will make them “get on the team.” Trying to intimidate the members into falling in line will more likely make them less cooperative, because many of them will take as a test of conviction. Beyond that, it will allow them to separate themselves from Trump in the eyes of their voters. That might make some of them vulnerable to a primary challenge, but at this point distance from Trump will help many of them in a general election.

Trump operates as if he were well-liked and held in high esteem by most Americans. That is not the case. If he and his agenda had broad popular backing, it might be politically dangerous for members of Congress to be seen resisting him, but they don’t and it isn’t.
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The GOP members in Congress mostly got elected by bigger margins than Trump and a lot of them ran like the Freedom Caucus as being and uncooperative awkward squad. It's in part a do nothing party elected to stick a finger in the eye of anybody trying to actually govern from DC. This bullying backfired with the healthcare bill. Trump has all the political nous of an senile Orangutan.
 
CrabbedOne said:
On FP Has Moscow Already Taken Down the Trump Administration?

A podcast.

Is The Whitehouse "Tobogganing towards Gomorrah" as more and more smoke appears about concealed Russian connections? Will the Trump Teams child like perpetual lying and evasion end up with his dodgy squad of crap lieutenants facing criminal charges? Has Putin's buggering about in US electoral affairs actually backfired and not just ruined the chances of him getting anything but grief out of the bumbling Trump's unexpected election but energised authoritarians? With Wilders under performing and the ADF sinking in Germany are these shenanigans triggering a backlash against toxic populist tricksters the Russians have stealthily backed in Europe?

Are the FP Editorial board getting a bit carried away? Probably but it is fun.
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To sum up: Has Putins beating of his wife backfired such that his wife is now rather good at street-fighting?
 
CrabbedOne said:
On Politico Trump’s Clumsy, Self-Defeating Attack on the Freedom Caucus
The GOP members in Congress mostly got elected by bigger margins than Trump and a lot of them ran like the Freedom Caucus as being and uncooperative awkward squad. It's in part a do nothing party elected to stick a finger in the eye of anybody trying to actually govern from DC. This bullying backfired with the healthcare bill. Trump has all the political nous of an senile Orangutan.
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Just over 2 months into GOP control of the White House and both houses of Congress and Trump has already openly declared war on a section of his own party, in some ways his presidency is working out better than I'd hoped.
 
Surely Putin's backing of Trump was to weaken and divide a rival power? So Trump floundering and the inevitable rage of his supporters if deposed will just serve that agenda further.
 
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The majority of Clinton's vote came from voters who are women or POC, or women and POC.

Given that males and females each make up close to 50% of the population, then unless the gender votes are wildly disparate, [e.g. 20/80 split], then adding in POC votes, will give a majority.

It's unclear what sort of political inferences follow from these demographic realities.
 
CrabbedOne said:
On Politico Trump’s Clumsy, Self-Defeating Attack on the Freedom Caucus
The GOP members in Congress mostly got elected by bigger margins than Trump and a lot of them ran like the Freedom Caucus as being and uncooperative awkward squad. It's in part a do nothing party elected to stick a finger in the eye of anybody trying to actually govern from DC. This bullying backfired with the healthcare bill. Trump has all the political nous of an senile Orangutan.
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Orang Utan? You mean like the poster here Orang Utan?
 
Johnny Canuck3 said:
The majority of Clinton's vote came from voters who are women or POC, or women and POC.

Given that males and females each make up close to 50% of the population, then unless the gender votes are wildly disparate, [e.g. 20/80 split], then adding in POC votes, will give a majority.
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Yes, that is true as well.

It's unclear what sort of political inferences follow from these demographic realities.
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Perhaps something about stereotypes about the average Trump voter
 
hash tag said:
There is a gift shop in the towers (im sad bastard) selling tees :facepalm:
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I am going to buy one
 
bimble said:
This thing today about allowing ISPs to sell your browsing history for money, I can't get my head around it. It's just that, no pretence of it having to do with terrorists or anything, just for sale to highest bidder. Seems impossible that this got voted for.
Snoops may soon be able to buy your browsing history. Thank the US Congress | Bruce Schneier

Republicans just voted to let internet service providers sell your browsing history
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Protesters raise more than $200,000 to buy Congress’s browsing histories
 
J Ed said:
Of those who voted for Trump, taken together the majority of those who did so were either women or people of colour or both. I think that is worth considering that when you think about the fact that people who have spent over a year now pushing essentialist identity politics, 'majority of black people/women back Clinton so Bernie is racist/sexist' are now turning around and attacking Trump voters as a whole and that is before you get to the classist discourse that is inseparable from liberal anti-Trumpism.

If we are talking about a 'stereotype' of an 'average Trump voter' as CRI proudly is then we are quite likely to be talking about someone who is a woman or a person of colour or both.
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It is nonsensical to lump those two categories together. A narrow minority of women voted for Trump (not so different from the narrow minority overall, given he lost the popular vote by quite a bit), but a very large majority of people of colour, if by that you mean everyone not classed as white, did not vote for Trump. That majority against him becomes even bigger if you're just considering black people. And astonishingly few black women voted for Trump - 4 per cent.

The truth of course is that people from many different groups voted for Trump for many different reasons. lots of rich people, for instance. And there are reasons why so few people from certain groups voted for him. Considering all US adults, if you have a room full of 100 black American women, you're likely to have one or two who voted for Trump. There's a strong chance you might pick a group at random without a single Trump voter in it.

I know you don't like CRI's analysis, but your counter to it doesn't make any sense either.
 
littlebabyjesus said:
Given how few people fit into that little subgroup - female, non-white Trump voters - it wouldn't make all that much difference if they were counted twice.
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True, well, they are like hen's teeth.

Problem with the "women and people of colour" phrase is it does suggest mutual exclusivity - as was the case in a claim against General Motors back in the 70's. Black women were denied jobs, but couldn't claim sex discrimination because they hired white women. They couldn't claim race discrimination because they hired Black men. Good article on this here (and why it's still an issue.) : Why intersectionality can’t wait.

African American women voted overwhelmingly for Clinton, with Black men and other women and men of colour not far behind. They weren't convinced by Sanders arguments in the primaries and even those who weren't overly enthused by Clinton knew she was a far better bet than Trump in November. They knew they'd be in the firing line of his policies. Also don't think it's a coincidence that vocal Black women like Waters and Ryan have been targeted by Spicer, O'Reilly and other Trump supporters in a way you just would not see if they were white women or Black men. :mad:
 
J Ed said:
Of those who voted for Trump, taken together the majority of those who did so were either women or people of colour or both. I think that is worth considering that when you think about the fact that people who have spent over a year now pushing essentialist identity politics, 'majority of black people/women back Clinton so Bernie is racist/sexist' are now turning around and attacking Trump voters as a whole and that is before you get to the classist discourse that is inseparable from liberal anti-Trumpism.

If we are talking about a 'stereotype' of an 'average Trump voter' as CRI proudly is then we are quite likely to be talking about someone who is a woman or a person of colour or both.
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The average "trump voter" is a woman of colour?:eek::eek::facepalm:
 
Yossarian said:
Just over 2 months into GOP control of the White House and both houses of Congress and Trump has already openly declared war on a section of his own party, in some ways his presidency is working out better than I'd hoped.
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Can American presidents ' cross the floor' ?
If a president is impeached, do his appointees remain in position?
The possibilities over the coming months seem to be 'interesting'
Including an itchy little hand on the nuclear button.
 
coley said:
Can American presidents ' cross the floor' ?
If a president is impeached, do his appointees remain in position?
The possibilities over the coming months seem to be 'interesting'
Including an itchy little hand on the nuclear button.
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Impeachment just means investigation by the House of Representatives. After impeachment, it is possible for the Senate to vote to remove the person from office. Problem is, with a GOP majority in both, including legislators who seem quite comfortable with aiding, abetting and even promoting corruption, it's questionable whether the former will happen and seriously unlikely the latter will. It's possible they will choose to resign though. Nixon resigned before the impeachment process was completed. I can't imagine Trump doing that, even if there is irrefutable evidence against him. I think he'd just insist it's fake and keep on lying through his teeth.

If by some miracle Trump does resign or is removed, the next in line of succession (Vice President is next, unless they have resigned or been removed) would have the choice of which appointees to keep and which to replace, just as for any new president taking office.

If there is a genuine investigation, it's possible the shit could stick to not only the Vice President, but quite a few folks down the line of succession. I remember people cacking themselves when Agnew resigned as Vice President and Nixon hadn't appointed a successor. He drafted in Ford at the 11th hour, then resigned himself.
 
The fuckin retards in charge dont whine, figure out to get the Evilous Wig Shit out
Gunshot have a hard wired place in Yankeedom

Do a decent thing for once, top yerself wiggycunt
 
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